News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

[sedati]

More pieces are being bolted onto the Guardians of the Galaxy Starblaster ship at EPCOT​

More pieces are being bolted onto the Guardians of the Galaxy Starblaster ship at EPCOT

The Nova Corps Starblaster continues to take shape in front of the main entrance to Cosmic Rewind.

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Whoah, wait a minute. You mean to tell me that a construction photo isn't showing me a completed project- EVEN when a few days have gone by with no discernible progress? Mind blown.

 

[WDWFREAK53]

I'm curious as to how they are going to remove the support structure. In the concept art it is clearly not there. Maybe a constant stream of steam to conceal it?
I can't imagine all of the support will be in the tail fin as it appears in the art. (That being said, we do have floating mountains so I guess anything is possible)

 

[lazyboy97o]

I'm curious as to how they are going to remove the support structure. In the concept art it is clearly not there. Maybe a constant stream of steam to conceal it?
I can't imagine all of the support will be in the tail fin as it appears in the art. (That being said, we do have floating mountains so I guess anything is possible)

I can’t tell if this is serious.

 

[James Alucobond]

I can’t tell if this is serious.

Your lack of faith in hovertech is disturbing.

 

[Surferboy567]

With the investor call tomorrow, do we think we may hear an update on Guardians? Perhaps a opening date?

 

[TikibirdLand]

With the investor call tomorrow, do we think we may hear an update on Guardians? Perhaps a opening date?

My bet it, "Sorry, No".

 

[tommyhawkins]

Just know, the only thing certain is it will rain in the afternoon.

Around 430pm? Used it to tell the time when I went in June

 

[tommyhawkins]

With the investor call tomorrow, do we think we may hear an update on Guardians? Perhaps a opening date?

Earnings call you mean? Nah. Maybe the thing in March. I forget the name of that.

 

[gorillaball]

Soooo.... you don't see a lot more similarities between, say, Space Mountain, Tron, Guardians, and RnRC then between HM and LM? Here, let me help. All of the former group are coasters in dark warehouses with occasional light or projection effects to create glowy spots in the visual void. The first three have a sci-fi theme, with both SM and GotG featuring similar space themes. All have comparable (quite brief) ride times. Three of the four feature launches. Guardians and RnRC (and SM in DL) use a pop song soundtrack to heighten excitement.

HM and LM are both omnimovers. But the omnimover format, which features complex sets and enables more elaborate narratives, is inherently more capable of varied experiences then "dark launch coaster with pretty color flashes." To have replicated the SM/Tron/GotG/RnRC situation, Disney would have had to follow Haunted Mansion up with, say, the Spooky Apartment Complex and the Vaguely Foreboding But Also Quite Amusing Large Domicile.

Going against my mockery of generalization or helping prove my point?

"But the omnimover format, which features complex sets and enables more elaborate narratives..." Would you not agree that Disney took a format that worked great in one use (Haunted Mansion) and then turned in a less than stellar use of the same format (Journey of LM)?

It's about execution!

Back to my original point with you, I do not believe IN MY OPINION that you can declare because a certain format is used or X# of AA are or aren't used that you can declare a ride a success or not.

It's about execution, I can not judge execution until I experience it, you obviously can. Let's leave it at that, I'll go experience it and form my opinion then, you can save your money and judge it from your keyboard.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Going against my mockery of generalization or helping prove my point?

"But the omnimover format, which features complex sets and enables more elaborate narratives..." Would you not agree that Disney took a format that worked great in one use (Haunted Mansion) and then turned in a less than stellar use of the same format (Journey of LM)?

It's about execution!

Back to my original point with you, I do not believe IN MY OPINION that you can declare because a certain format is used or X# of AA are or aren't used that you can declare a ride a success or not.

It's about execution, I can not judge execution until I experience it, you obviously can. Let's leave it at that, I'll go experience it and form my opinion then, you can save your money and judge it from your keyboard.

Do you go to every movie released because you are unable or unwilling to use trailers to form opinions about upcoming films?

 

[gorillaball]

Except it is finished. It matches the concept art and film, there’s no pieces left to add, the reality is that they put an ugly support in front of the bottom fin/wing instead of inside of it.

Why are they still adding pieces almost 2 weeks after you said it was finished?
(please note, yes I'm giving you a little ribbing, but I'm also skeptical of how it will look when finished)

 

[gorillaball]

Do you go to every movie released because you are unable or unwilling to use trailers to form opinions about upcoming films?

A. This isn't a movie. A movie you experience sitting in your chair while visually taking in what is presented to you. Which is the same format a trailer is delivered in.

B. Has there been a trailer for this ride yet?

Not the same medium. Can you judge the taste of your restaurant by a commercial?

 

[No Name]

Why are they still adding pieces almost 2 weeks after you said it was finished?
(please note, yes I'm giving you a little ribbing, but I'm also skeptical of how it will look when finished)

Lol yeah I was wrong. Sorry! Will be interesting to see what they’re adding right now. Also let it be known that I still hate chronic “let’s wait and see” people when we have a pretty good picture of something!

 

[James Alucobond]

Lol yeah I was wrong. Sorry! Will be interesting to see what they’re adding right now. Also let it be known that I still hate chronic “let’s wait and see” people when we have a pretty good picture of something!

What they're currently doing is adding elements to conceal the joints that were visible immediately after installing the wings. They also added the windshield not long ago. I assume they'll turn their attention to the support structure once they're done with the ship itself.

 

[gorillaball]

Lol yeah I was wrong. Sorry! Will be interesting to see what they’re adding right now. Also let it be known that I still hate chronic “let’s wait and see” people when we have a pretty good picture of something!

I get it, we have to form opinions along the way as we see things develop. I'm just a little more cautious with closing the review.

 

[WDWFREAK53]

I can’t tell if this is serious.

Why is it not serious? In the update it says that they will start to conceal the support structure. The support structure is pretty substantial compared to the concept art.
Is the full structure going to be concealed? You make it seem like in construction they don't add temporary supports. Obviously the entire support structure isn't going away but that seems like a lot to conceal.

My comment about the steam coming from the ship would hide it as the steel is currently painted a light gray.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Going against my mockery of generalization or helping prove my point?

"But the omnimover format, which features complex sets and enables more elaborate narratives..." Would you not agree that Disney took a format that worked great in one use (Haunted Mansion) and then turned in a less than stellar use of the same format (Journey of LM)?

It's about execution!

Back to my original point with you, I do not believe IN MY OPINION that you can declare because a certain format is used or X# of AA are or aren't used that you can declare a ride a success or not.

It's about execution, I can not judge execution until I experience it, you obviously can. Let's leave it at that, I'll go experience it and form my opinion then, you can save your money and judge it from your keyboard.

I feel like you actually proved his point here.

Yes, it's about execution - and as executed, Space Mountain, TRON, Rock N' Roller Coaster all share a lot of DNA. Guardians has already announced that it will include many of those exact same elements and has not announced many different ones. The proof will be in the pudding, of course, but it's plenty logical at this point to expect the experience to have many similarities to the above.

That doesn't mean Guardians won't be successful - I don't think Casper was discounting the success of any of these attractions. It's fair to say Space, TRON, and RNR are in very many ways successful. But surely by now we can begin to form some opinion about Guardians based on what we've heard to be involved, and our opinions will of course be subject to change as fuller details emerge and eventually the attraction opens.

Isn't that the entire point of having a News and Rumors message board? To share what we know so far and engage with it while things develop? Insisting that one should not form any opinion until opening is antethetical to this forum.

 

[doctornick]

I feel like you actually proved his point here.

Yes, it's about execution - and as executed, Space Mountain, TRON, Rock N' Roller Coaster all share a lot of DNA. Guardians has already announced that it will include many of those exact same elements and has not announced many different ones. The proof will be in the pudding, of course, but it's plenty logical at this point to expect the experience to have many similarities to the above.

I don't really agree. Saying "it's a roller coaster in a building" tells us very little about the experience.

More specifically, I think elements like the backwards launch and the directional movement of the vehicles will make this very distinct from the other rides listed. I also expect heavier use of actual "scenes" (via video) in making this truly themed to GOTG, which will make it very different from Space and RNR that are in low light conditions lighter theming. We know there is a planet/moon in the show building that you helix around. I also expect a big pre-show/exposition which will probably extend into the first part of the ride before the launch. I also expect since it is GOTG that there will be a good bit of humor involved, something that was done very well with Mission Breakout.

I also would expect it to be less intense than either Tron or RNR. Probably less fast, no upside down portion, and the sitting positioning won't be as atypical as Tron (or Space for that matter). In terms of intensity, I'm thinking more BTMRR than any of those indoor coasters.

Admittedly, I'm also one of those who finds it mind boggling that people complain about Tron being next to Space as being "too similar" cause they don't seem similar to me at all. I think there is a tendency in these forums to lump coasters all together as being similar experiences which is unfair while given dark rides more leeway in pointing out "unique" parts. My guess is that it is probably because (overall) people here probably prefer dark ride and expositional elements in general more than the physical thrills.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

I don't really agree. Saying "it's a roller coaster in a building" tells us very little about the experience.

More specifically, I think elements like the backwards launch and the directional movement of the vehicles will make this very distinct from the other rides listed. I also expect heavier use of actual "scenes" (via video) in making this truly themed to GOTG, which will make it very different from Space and RNR that are in low light conditions lighter theming. We know there is a planet/moon in the show building that you helix around. I also expect a big pre-show/exposition which will probably extend into the first part of the ride before the launch. I also expect since it is GOTG that there will be a good bit of humor involved, something that was done very well with Mission Breakout.

I also would expect it to be less intense than either Tron or RNR. Probably less fast, no upside down portion, and the sitting positioning won't be as atypical as Tron (or Space for that matter). In terms of intensity, I'm thinking more BTMRR than any of those indoor coasters.

Admittedly, I'm also one of those who finds it mind boggling that people complain about Tron being next to Space as being "too similar" cause they don't seem similar to be at all. I think there is a tendency in these forums to lump coasters all together as being similar experiences which is unfair while given dark rides more leeway in pointing out "unique" parts. My guess is that it is probably because (overall) people here probably prefer dark ride and expositional elements in general more than the physical thrills.

Okay, but you know that we know more than just "it's a roller coaster in a building", right?

I don't think anyone's trying to make the argument that Guardians will be "the same" as Space Mountain and TRON. I think the observation is merely that Disney has a pattern with these kinds of attractions and so far the known details about Guardians suggest this might be on a similar path. I feel like, at this point, that's a valid observation. If they take a left turn and surprise us I'm sure we'll pretty much all be thrilled, but it doesn't yet totally seem like that will be the case.

 

[UNCgolf]

Admittedly, I'm also one of those who finds it mind boggling that people complain about Tron being next to Space as being "too similar" cause they don't seem similar to be at all. I think there is a tendency in these forums to lump coasters all together as being similar experiences which is unfair while given dark rides more leeway in pointing out "unique" parts. My guess is that it is probably because (overall) people here probably prefer dark ride and expositional elements in general more than the physical thrills.

I think you're right about that, but it also works in reverse -- I've seen more than one person here suggest that all omnimovers and all boat rides are basically the same thing, and that you shouldn't have more than one in a park because then you're just duplicating a ride. That's crazy to me. Haunted Mansion and Spaceship Earth are about as different as two rides can possibly be, and they're both omnimovers. I'm sure those are people for whom the physical thrill matters the most, which is fine, but I'd also argue that if that's the case Disney probably isn't really the best park for them. It's always been more focused on expositional rides than physical thrills; the coasters they do build tend to be mild compared to what you can get elsewhere.