Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[correcaminos]

My formerly obese brother lost almost 100 pounds last year, he had several health issues associated with his weight and his doctor basically told him if he caught Covid he likely wouldn’t survive it.

He gave up sugar and carbs (basically became a carnivore eating primarily lean meat, chicken, fish, etc) and bought one of those exercise bikes with the fan for resistance and spent hours a day riding it at home while he worked. Pretty incredible.

As much as I’d like to lose 15 pounds I’m weak and not ready to give up sugar yet to do it.

Good for your brother! Glad he found something that worked. But no giving up sugar or carbs. That's not sustainable for me. Anytime I tried I eventually failed on that kind of diet. I eat well rounded. I did cut out most meats outside of poultry and alcohol. I actually had no health issues but when your spouse who is 10-11 inches taller weighs the same it was time. My portions literally just became too large. So I fixed it. Part of my gain was losing the abulity to eun due to my knee and I never adjusted right. It just takes time to figure it out

 

[danlb_2000]

It's case rate per 100k people. The size of the vaccinated population doesn't matter.

My assumption is that it is the rate per 100K of total population so you can compare one region to another. So for simplicity let's say there are only 100K people in the studied population and we will ignore partial vax since they overlap full vaxed. Based on the vaccination rates...

Fully vaccianted, 78,000 people, 102 got sick, .13%
Unvaccinated, 17,000 people, 78 got sick, .46%

So the unvaccinated are getting infected 4 times more often then the vaccinated. Some please correct me if there is something wrong with my math.

 

[Incomudro]

If we used this crisis with covid as an opportunity to guide the population towards better health, it would help virtually everything health related.
Those hospitals we worry about filling up?
Well, they would be at less capacity if they weren't full of people there largely due to lifestyle related issues.

 

[danlb_2000]

If we used this crisis with covid as an opportunity to guide the population towards better health, it would help virtually everything health related.
Those hospitals we worry about filling up?
Well, they would be at less capacity if they weren't full of people there largely due to lifestyle related issues.

I agree this would be a good thing, but hospitals would still operate without a lot of excess capacity. If a hospital ended up operating routinely at 50% capacity, they would scale back operations so they weren't paying for unused capacity.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I agree this would be a good thing, but hospitals would still operate without a lot of excess capacity. If a hospital ended up operating routinely at 50% capacity, they would scale back operations so they weren't paying for unused capacity.

Sadly true, because of this we’ll probably never be adequately prepared for unusual need.

 

[Nubs70]

Sadly true, because of this we’ll probably never be adequately prepared for unusual need.

It would be helpful if hospitals had the flexibility to increase bed capacity without prior state approval. Instead, the first course of action is to restrict elective procedures.

 

[disneygeek90]

Until my dad nearly died, I too only knew people who had had mild cases. It's just not worth taking the risk when you we all have access to a safe, free, and easily available way of protecting ourselves.

I know you know but it’s also still worth mentioning that dying or not dying isn’t even the only measure. My unvaccinated coworker lost hair, smell, taste for coming on 6 months now. It knocked her on her and she is only in her late 30s, relatively healthy.

 

[LittleBuford]

I know you know but it’s also still worth mentioning that dying or not dying isn’t even the only measure. My unvaccinated coworker lost hair, smell, taste for coming on 6 months now. It knocked her on her *** and she is only in her late 30s, relatively healthy.

Oh, absolutely. The point I wanted to make is that it takes only one person in your life (in my case my dad, in your case your friend) to drastically change your personal experience of the harm that COVID can do. We shouldn’t need a severe case to happen to someone we know in order to take this thing seriously.

 

[lazyboy97o]

It would be helpful if hospitals had the flexibility to increase bed capacity without prior state approval. Instead, the first course of action is to restrict elective procedures.

You keep saying this but provide no actual viable means of accomplishing the goal.

 

[Kman]

Just to circle back to the Ontario, Canada data, here is the latest chart showing the seven day average daily case rate by vaccination status. Their data says that 78% of the population is fully vaccinated and 83% are at least partially vaccinated. Prior to the latest measures there were already indoor mask requirements as well. I shall wait for the condescending reply that tells me that I don't understand anything and that if we just all did the "right" thing, COVID would no longer be an issue.

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830k+ dead in less than 2 years vs. Under 31k. Your opinion is meaningless.

 

[Nubs70]

You keep saying this but provide no actual viable means of accomplishing the goal.

Repurposing existing floor space for addition beds needs prior approval state agency.

Adding beds to existing cafeterias, conference rooms and auditoriums etc requires prior state approval.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Repurposing existing floor space for addition beds needs prior approval state agency.

Adding beds to existing cafeterias, conference rooms and auditoriums etc requires prior state approval.

For anyone else change of occupancy requires reconstruction and new certificates of occupancy.

 

[JoeCamel]

Repurposing existing floor space for addition beds needs prior approval state agency.

Adding beds to existing cafeterias, conference rooms and auditoriums etc requires prior state approval.

As it should?
Rather stick granny in the closet?

 

[Disney Analyst]

I know you know but it’s also still worth mentioning that dying or not dying isn’t even the only measure. My unvaccinated coworker lost hair, smell, taste for coming on 6 months now. It knocked her on her *** and she is only in her late 30s, relatively healthy.

I am sure it would open a few eyes if we had definitive numbers on how many have or are facing long covid.

And we still don’t know what happens 5-10 years from now. Does covid hide in the body like chicken pox, and reignite as something like shingles? What happens to all those who were infected?

 

[carolina_yankee]

Repurposing existing floor space for addition beds needs prior approval state agency.

Adding beds to existing cafeterias, conference rooms and auditoriums etc requires prior state approval.

You must have missed my post about our local hospital canceling elective procedures *and* repurposing office space for surge capacity. NJ has procedures in place to allow for surge needs. The problem is the staffing levels. I’m not why people aren’t getting that hospitals are facing a crisis because of COVID hospitalizations. Nine area hospitals were on divert this am.

 

[Bullseye1967]

Repurposing existing floor space for addition beds needs prior approval state agency.

Adding beds to existing cafeterias, conference rooms and auditoriums etc requires prior state approval.

As it should?
Rather stick granny in the closet?

Tennessee actually has surge plans for medical facilities that are pre approved. I know a few other states also do, but I think they all should. Whether it is Covid, Flu, or a mass casualty event, hospital will have surges down the road.

 

[Ayla]

I know you know but it’s also still worth mentioning that dying or not dying isn’t even the only measure. My unvaccinated coworker lost hair, smell, taste for coming on 6 months now. It knocked her on her *** and she is only in her late 30s, relatively healthy.

Long haul covid is no joke and happens even with "mild" cases.

 

[Nubs70]

I am sure it would open a few eyes if we had definitive numbers on how many have or are facing long covid.

And we still don’t know what happens 5-10 years from now. Does covid hide in the body like chicken pox, and reignite as something like shingles? What happens to all those who were infected?

Same can be said about other aspects.of Covid

 

[Minthorne]

Yes you can....gay can and does mean happy....just because culture demands one thing doesn't remove the meaning of the word. Sure certain uses can be more common place but they dont displace the word as a whole.

Some words lose their meanings over time. It’s a living language.

Words with Lost Meanings

Some words just don't mean what they used to...

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[Lilofan]

Being unvaccinated increases your risk of hospitalization by 1076% (this is using my states data from Nov 2020)

Being unvaccinated increases your risk of dying from Covid by 1250%

All of you touting obesity as the cause of all of this because it increases your risk of hospitalization by 45-30% (numbers I saw quoted here, I have not verified them) are as the saying goes “****ing in the wind.”

Obesity is not the primary reason we are in trouble

Unvax/antivax is what I hear and see on a too often. My former coworker who stated she did not want to get vaccinated takes care of her husband who is on oxygen 24/7 who is immunocompromised . She contacted covid last month , was hospitalized for a week and is recovering at home. Now her husband is in the ICU fighting for his life after contacting covid. Sad stories all the way around.