Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[matt9112]

What rules are put in place by governments and private businesses and what people actually do are often two very different things.

As a rule people listen to authority figures....its scientifically proven. Your grasping at straws. In reality nyc shut itself down for months on end.

 

[matt9112]

There is in places, the suggestion of a circuit breaker. Instead of expecting businesses to power through their labor issues, shut most things down for two weeks. It wouldn’t just be to stop the spread but it would be a byproduct. But more to keep things functioning at a level where everyone doesn’t quit because they are overworked. Let the government cover payroll for the 2 weeks.

But we won’t do that.

We shouldn't do that....less you still think inflation is transitory. Was hillarious to see the fed walk that term back when they realized....uhhh i guess money printers go brrrr.

The fed has no more tools in the tool box. They cant print more money and they can't lower interest rates. They HAVE to let rates rise and cool this off yet doing so is going to take all the steam out of the economy. Theres really nothing they can do to fight inflation atm.

 

[Bullseye1967]

How do you get something this wrong? Someone is getting fired!

The CDC significantly reduced its estimate for how prevalent the omicron variant of COVID-19 was in the United States earlier in December, saying on Tuesday that the omicron variant was responsible for 22.5% of all new cases for the week ending December 18 after previously saying the omicron variant was responsible for 73.2% of all new cases for the same week.

For the week ending Dec. 25, the agency says omicron accounted for 58.6% of all new cases.

 

[wdwmagic]

Disney adjusts its Walt Disney World COVID quarantine period for Cast Members to follow latest CDC guidelines​

Disney adjusts its Walt Disney World COVID quarantine period for Cast Members to follow latest CDC guidelines

A surge in COVD-19 cases among Cast Members in Orlando is putting a significant strain on operations at Walt Disney World.

www.wdwmagic.com

 

[DisneyCane]

How do you get something this wrong? Someone is getting fired!

The CDC significantly reduced its estimate for how prevalent the omicron variant of COVID-19 was in the United States earlier in December, saying on Tuesday that the omicron variant was responsible for 22.5% of all new cases for the week ending December 18 after previously saying the omicron variant was responsible for 73.2% of all new cases for the same week.

For the week ending Dec. 25, the agency says omicron accounted for 58.6% of all new cases.

I guess somebody forgot to carry the 1?

Crazy to be off by that much. They may as well have picked a random number.

 

[Incomudro]

This isn't the seasonal flu, as anyone with any sense must surely realise by now.

There is no good reason (other than medical exemption) not to get the vaccine. Not one.

Did you read the post I replied to?
"We don't do this for other illnesses, we intervene to keep people healthy."
So, how do we intervene with seasonal flu?
We offer flu shots.
That's it.
It's "another illness."
It kills tens of thousands in the US.
I think it's foolish not to get a covid vaccine, or any other vaccine for something a person is at risk for.

 

[Incomudro]

Not in my circle. As a 44 year old I have actually been vaccinated for chicken pox. Never had it and as I got older the fear of being bad off was real.

It can cause death and hospitalization. Hence my comment above.

I never had chickenpox either, and therefore got vaccinated against chickenpox years ago as well.

 

[correcaminos]

I never had chickenpox either, and therefore got vaccinated against chickenpox years ago as well.

Not to derail too much, but curious - did you have any struggles getting it? My PCP at the time was a heart specialist and didn't have easy access to it at the time. Took a while to convince him too but finally got a script and called around to clinics. Found only one who would vaccinate me as an adult.

 

[networkpro]

How do you get something this wrong? Someone is getting fired!

The CDC significantly reduced its estimate for how prevalent the omicron variant of COVID-19 was in the United States earlier in December, saying on Tuesday that the omicron variant was responsible for 22.5% of all new cases for the week ending December 18 after previously saying the omicron variant was responsible for 73.2% of all new cases for the same week.

For the week ending Dec. 25, the agency says omicron accounted for 58.6% of all new cases.

And if you look at the distribution of identified variant infections, you'll see that Omicron isn't ubiquitous, it's concentrated in where it appeared.

 

[JoeCamel]

This was (is?) a thing—he isn't making it up. When I was growing up in the UK, I remember it being considered normal and good when you caught chicken pox from other children, because it meant you finally had it out of the way. I didn't even know there was a vaccine until well into adulthood.

Still, none of this has any bearing on COVID.

ETA: Note the date of this article, which suggests that chickenpox parties are far from unusual in the UK:

The chickenpox party is over as scientists call for UK vaccine rollout

Deliberately sending children to catch the virus could become a thing of the past if jab is introduced

www.theguardian.com

If it was going on I didn’t hear about it or know about it. I actually called my mom who just turned 80 and she thought I was joking with her when I asked her. She said she never knew anyone that did that. It must have been rare and maybe in certain parts of the world but not in our area.

I never had chickenpox either, and therefore got vaccinated against chickenpox years ago as well.

Not to derail too much, but curious - did you have any struggles getting it? My PCP at the time was a heart specialist and didn't have easy access to it at the time. Took a while to convince him too but finally got a script and called around to clinics. Found only one who would vaccinate me as an adult.

I am older so I had the pox, it puts me at risk of developing shingles and the vaccine reduces that chance.
This is the reason for the vaccine and the pox parties were active in the late 70's early 80's. I remember them being a thing and wondered why would you want your kid to go through the itching and scarring with the risk of shingles later in life?
People get weird notions that can hurt in ways they never imagined

Two-for-One: Chickenpox Vaccine Lowers Shingles Risk in Children

Immunization reduces the likelihood of a painful reemergence of the virus in kids

www.scientificamerican.com

 

[Calmdownnow]

And if you look at the distribution of identified variant infections, you'll see that Omicron isn't ubiquitous, it's concentrated in where it appeared.

Internationally, the U.S. is notorious for being very poor at the type of testing required to routinely identify variants. Your data only reflects the fact that in some locations testing of variants in the labs is OK, whereas in most places, it is bad. So this distribution data you refer to tells you nothing about how "ubiquitous" the variant is. The problem in the U.S. is that the "private sector" is doing the testing and unless they are paid a premium, they have no incentive to generate accurate variant data.

Just to add: The testing on white tailed deer at nine sites in Ohio, that (pre Omicron) found 3 different COVID variants in more than a third of live deer, was more comprehensive in testing for variants than the general testing of human Americans for variants. There has been little discussion in main stream media about how these variants are being transmitted in the deer population, but the first thoughts are via the water supply.

 

[correcaminos]

I am older so I had the pox, it puts me at risk of developing shingles and the vaccine reduces that chance.
This is the reason for the vaccine and the pox parties were active in the late 70's early 80's. I remember them being a thing and wondered why would you want your kid to go through the itching and scarring with the risk of shingles later in life?
People get weird notions that can hurt in ways they never imagined

Two-for-One: Chickenpox Vaccine Lowers Shingles Risk in Children

Immunization reduces the likelihood of a painful reemergence of the virus in kids

www.scientificamerican.com

I was born in the 70s and a kid of the 80s as an FYI. i just never had chicken pox. My spouse did though. After a third person I knew my age going to the hospital with chickenpox as an adult, I went and got vaccinated. So I'm very much of the generation that was around for those decades. Just we never had pox parties where I lived. My mom felt like you and never dreamt of doing it. It was something I heard of, but none of my friends ever took part of. I do remember when each of my best friends was sick with it though. Last one 6th grade with a 3 year gap. By even 3rd grade most had had it. I was just the exception. So far now I've been told no to shingles vaccine. Unfortunately being 40s makes me more of an oddball with what to do next.

 

[LittleBuford]

Did you read the post I replied to?
"We don't do this for other illnesses, we intervene to keep people healthy."
So, how do we intervene with seasonal flu?
We offer flu shots.
That's it.
It's "another illness."
It kills tens of thousands in the US.
I think it's foolish not to get a covid vaccine, or any other vaccine for something a person is at risk for.

So you’re insisting on a pedantic reading of my post rather than a sincere one. My point was perfectly clear. I don’t have time for silly semantic games.

 

[Nubs70]

How do you get something this wrong? Someone is getting fired!

The CDC significantly reduced its estimate for how prevalent the omicron variant of COVID-19 was in the United States earlier in December, saying on Tuesday that the omicron variant was responsible for 22.5% of all new cases for the week ending December 18 after previously saying the omicron variant was responsible for 73.2% of all new cases for the same week.

For the week ending Dec. 25, the agency says omicron accounted for 58.6% of all new cases.

Since Omicron has been shown to be less fatal thus not the boogy man it was initially planned, we need to return the emphasis to the known boogeyman man, Delta.

 

[mmascari]

Did you read the post I replied to?
"We don't do this for other illnesses, we intervene to keep people healthy."
So, how do we intervene with seasonal flu?
We offer flu shots.
That's it.
It's "another illness."
It kills tens of thousands in the US.
I think it's foolish not to get a covid vaccine, or any other vaccine for something a person is at risk for.

COVID is not the flu though.

COVID kills tens of tens of thousands.

400,000 not 40,000. That extra digit changes a lot of public health policy.

 

[mmascari]

Since Omicron has been shown to be less fatal thus not the boogy man it was initially planned, we need to return the emphasis to the known boogeyman man, Delta.

Good news, literally anything being done to deal with Omicron also deals with Delta too. Win win there. It’s not like anything to fight Omicron would make Delta worse.

 

[LittleBuford]

Since Omicron has been shown to be less fatal thus not the boogy man it was initially planned, we need to return the emphasis to the known boogeyman man, Delta.

This makes very little sense, even for a conspiracy theory.

 

[Bullseye1967]

This makes very little sense, even for a conspiracy theory.

I think he is talking about the "there's a new variant. we are all going to die!!!" Covid that is constantly playing on the news channels.

 

[JoeCamel]

I think he is talking about the "there's a new variant. we are all going to die!!!" Covid **** that is constantly playing on the news channels.

Well "there is a new variant and the current admin is responsible" channels so yeah.

 

[Nubs70]

And a small but not insignificant number of kids (considering that exposure was nearly universal) would develop pneumonia, hepatitis, myocarditis or encephalitis. Hence, vaccination as a better path to herd immunity than "pox parties".

It proved safe and effective for my cohort.

Vaccine was simply not available at that time.