News Zootopia and Moana Blue Sky concepts for Disney's Animal Kingdom

Incomudro

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Agree to disagree, however the ride vehicle is a perfect match for Judy's police truck seen at the end of the film and the target audience is all audiences, not just kids. Wish people would quit acting like animation is only for 3 year olds. It's such a shame most in the US view animation as less than. Maybe actually realize that an animated film can be for all audiences, not just little wee tikes, and that may broaden your horizons
Police trucks fit the theme of AK so well.
What a disaster.
 

ToTBellHop

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Predators eat prey. The film itself botched the metaphor. You can't make a movie that says "prey are bigots for thinking predators want to eat them" because predators do want to eat them.
Especially when Finding Nemo already pulled it off in a more charming way with the sharks 2 decades ago. It helps when you don’t hit people over the head with it. Quickly stop prejudging the sharks and move on with it.

It’s why I prefer when inclusivity efforts are organically included in a project rather than being the purpose of a project. It’s why I liked PatF and am not optimistic toward TBA…
 

drnilescrane

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And they don't just want to.
They have to.
That's nature.
That's the Animal Kingdom.
Before they blew the film up it was going to be a very thinly veiled AIDS allegory.

Prey could't be trusted not to act on their natural urges so had to wear shock collars. Nick Wilde opens an underground "theme park" where they could take off the collars and be themselves. Judy Hopps is the bigoted police officer enforcing the status quo.

Suddenly a mystery illness spreads and the predators go savage, which ramps up the political rhetoric. Turns out to be a conspiracy designed to keep certain people in power.
 

celluloid

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Everyone needs to stop defending the Dinoland carnival section. It's intention was to be cheap. There's no cause to celebrate that

No one is celebrating or defending a cost. It may not be what you like, so what? The theming of the quick service dining area and gas station stores when first open is perfect.

It literally has a theme though. It cost more to make the roadway and guard rail vs not.

It is just a bit too cerebral for some or not someone's cup of tea.



I find it far more defending that people celebrate Figment when it has a garbage attraction that was done cheaply, and the character's best trait in the last 20 years in the parks is old kinetic pin tables in the old odysee resteraunt. That makes you someone celebrating budget cheapness that execs instill. It rewards it.


And for the record. You can celebrate what people do creatively with a budget. That is a lot of what Imagineering is. It is hard to know this now that they will spend near half a billion in an indoor coaster.
 
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KingMickey13

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Dinoland is going away (heck, it’s only a spinner, a shop, and a QS restaurant). It’s useless to defend it. It was built because Animal Kingdom needed more capacity. It’s a cheap bi-product of the latter Eisner years. It doesn’t mesh well with the naturalistic and heavily vegetated rest of the park. Moreover, it’s not the point of this thread, which is to discuss the future.
 
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celluloid

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Dinoland (not including the Dino ride) is going away (heck, it’s only a spinner, a shop, and a QS restaurant). It’s useless to defend it. It was built because Animal Kingdom needed more capacity. It’s a cheap bi-product of the latter Eisner years. It doesn’t mesh well with the naturalistic and heavily vegetated rest of the park. Moreover, it’s not the point of this thread, which is to discuss the future.

I don't think anyone is defending what it currently is.

You also forgot the only.plsyground in an area between to height requirement attraction areas.

Blue Sky is not the same as confirmed. Even when from the company. It is still Blue Sky. Just to keep everyone's expectations in check. Important distinction.
 
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KingMickey13

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I don't think anyone is defending what it currently is.

You also forgot the only.plsyground in an area between to height requirement attraction areas.

Blue Sky is not the same as confirmed. Even when from the company. It is still Blue Sky. Just to keep everyone's expectations in check. Important distinction.
It’s might be a good playground, but it’s still just a playground.

Disney did confirm something will happen in this area soon. Even if it’s not Moana and Zootopia. However, insiders have told us this will be happening. This is exactly the project the modern Disney company would be interested in. Especially with Zootopia II…
 

celluloid

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It’s might be a good playground, but it’s still just a playground.

Disney did confirm something will happen in this area soon. Even if it’s not Moana and Zootopia. However, insiders have told us this will be happening. This is exactly the project the modern Disney company would be interested in. Especially with Zootopia II…

Every theme park without a plethora of no height requirement rides do well with playgrounds. Classic themed entertainment.

Something will eventually happen everywhere. It's all Blue Sky. The best one can hope for with Zootopia is a clone of Shanghai, which as others have pointed.out, is a fair critique of lessoning the park's theme, a common pattern currently at TDO with their parks.

The complaining of Dinoland is old.

As a theme, it is a better fit.
 
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EPCOTCenterLover

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Before they blew the film up it was going to be a very thinly veiled AIDS allegory.

Prey could't be trusted not to act on their natural urges so had to wear shock collars. Nick Wilde opens an underground "theme park" where they could take off the collars and be themselves. Judy Hopps is the bigoted police officer enforcing the status quo.

Suddenly a mystery illness spreads and the predators go savage, which ramps up the political rhetoric. Turns out to be a conspiracy designed to keep certain people in power.
I've never heard this proposed storyline. Where did you hear it?
 

drnilescrane

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I've never heard this proposed storyline. Where did you hear it?
They're quite open about it. There's a special feature on the Blu-Ray that goes over the story beats.

It happened with about 9 months to go, and with about 70% of the animation completed. All animated films go through this sort of drama, but that one was quite late in the production and after a lot of the publicity and merchandise was produced. So they couldn't exactly hide it.

They even showed a scene from that version of the movie at D23 in 2015 because they didn't have anything else finished. It was completely different in the final release 5 months later.
 

doctornick

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Before they blew the film up it was going to be a very thinly veiled AIDS allegory.

Prey could't be trusted not to act on their natural urges so had to wear shock collars. Nick Wilde opens an underground "theme park" where they could take off the collars and be themselves. Judy Hopps is the bigoted police officer enforcing the status quo.

Suddenly a mystery illness spreads and the predators go savage, which ramps up the political rhetoric. Turns out to be a conspiracy designed to keep certain people in power.

That sounds terrible. If this is true, it's understandable why they changed it - what we got is so much better.
 

Sorcerer Mickey

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Dinoland (not including the Dino ride) is going away (heck, it’s only a spinner, a shop, and a QS restaurant). It’s useless to defend it. It was built because Animal Kingdom needed more capacity. It’s a cheap bi-product of the latter Eisner years. It doesn’t mesh well with the naturalistic and heavily vegetated rest of the park. Moreover, it’s not the point of this thread, which is to discuss the future.
Wait...is Dinosaur (the ride) staying?
 

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