JusticeDisney
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Or perhaps some people are sad that others DO enjoy what they no longer enjoy.
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"You Just Don't Like Change"
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Cmdr_Crimson
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Pepper's Ghost
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That would make sense, but not in the world where Disney is a business. That makes sense if Walt was still at the helm because he loved perfection, profits and finances be darned. Disney is a business now. If you're Disney and you're spending less per capita than you were 3 years ago, but your parks are literally busting at the seams, what sense does it make to invest more?? They care about the bottom line, not guest happiness. You know when they'll give a lick about guest happiness? When the parks are seeing a massive decline in attendance. Until then, they won't spend a penny more than they need to because they don't have to spend money to attract the crowds. The crowds are larger than they can handle, so no reason to spend, expand, or anything like that.
Btw, I'm not agreeing with this approach if you haven't picked up on that. I'm just stating fact. Actually, when they DO invest in the product, it literally shocks me because it makes no business sense.
Mickey5150
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I'm tired of people complaining about a change before it happens. Tiana's could be a better ride than Splash, we don't know, yet people already complain that the new ride is worse.
Prince-1
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No you don’t have to take it. You choose to take it by keep going back again and again.
Club Cooloholic
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But if you increase the prices thats 40% less people buying food, and popcorn buckets, and 12 dollar beers, and Tshirts... and then you have all that room inventory they need to fill at the resorts, which is hard to do if the parks are too pricey.
Chi84
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Well yes I think everyone knows they don’t have to go to Disney. I interpreted that as meaning if you go, you just have to accept what Disney is doing.
Prince-1
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Well yes we all know that if we choose to go to Disney we have to accept what they are doing. We literally have no choice otherwise. Other than by not going.
disneyfireman
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Oh..no. it wont be better...it WILL be worse......see
1. Horizons..
2. World of motion
3. Maelstrom
4. Pirates
5. Journey into imagination
6. Toad removal
7. Fast Pass legacy..paper
8. Universe of energy....when Ellen was added..
9. Harmonious is a dreadful woke nightmare..
10. And of course...the demise of possible Disneys most loved attraction..Splash Mountain.
And If they day comes they change the scenes in SSE. who only knows how they'll dumb that down...
No one's criticizing change in general, just dumb change.
Disney Glimpses
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Change is one thing. Obviously short sighted change is another. They've made some seriously boneheaded decisions in the last couple of years alone and realized after the fact.
1 - Demolishing Future World amidst an uncertain pandemic
2 - Continuing with a nighttime spectacular which would leave one of the most prized locations at the resort riddled with 5 barges that look like oil rigs
3 - Replaced a nighttime spectacular that had absolutely stellar scores after only 3 years of runtime
4 - Announcing the very, very expensive re-theme of one of the most beloved attractions amidst the same pandemic and economic warnings
5 - Drastically complicating the logistics of how people visit and experience their parks and changing the landscape of vacations for decades long guests
We don't hate these things because we hate change. We hate these things because they are stupid or ill timed.
1 - Demolishing Future World amidst an uncertain pandemic
2 - Continuing with a nighttime spectacular which would leave one of the most prized locations at the resort riddled with 5 barges that look like oil rigs
3 - Replaced a nighttime spectacular that had absolutely stellar scores after only 3 years of runtime
4 - Announcing the very, very expensive re-theme of one of the most beloved attractions amidst the same pandemic and economic warnings
5 - Drastically complicating the logistics of how people visit and experience their parks and changing the landscape of vacations for decades long guests
We don't hate these things because we hate change. We hate these things because they are stupid or ill timed.
disneyfireman
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Yep...Splash is literally Disneys most asinine and ridiculous redo..and harmonious is just......AWFUL. Like WTH did someone think to create that disaster. Its almost so bad..its comical.
Which was what?
Goofyernmost
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Well, Disney is a business in any world with one difference, they are a business that is supposed to provide a fun, relaxing and enjoyable escape from the problems of the world. It is not supposed to increase ones stress level and not just distribute massively insane profits to the top layer of alleged management in the form of bonuses. Walt was very aware of profits and finances but had a philosophy that happened to not expect massive profits and that it would all come if he was able to win the public over and give them something more than they expected thus generating those profits. Now they just find ways to get more money and give nothing back except shoddy maintenance, shilling people for every nickel and making visiting more work than actually working.
They are still riding the coattails of a man that has been dead for 56 years. They have done almost nothing other than ride that wave for years now. However, I think they are losing the newer generations as those of us that have been enjoying the fruits of Walt's imagination are dying off. Trust me if it continues eventually the magic will completely disappear from their minds and people will find other ways to spend their money. I have spoken with a number of folks that have so looked forward to the post-pandemic trip to their favorite place only to come home disappointed and bewildered. It was to much work or too expensive and just didn't feel the same. Contrary to popular thinking, the place has always been crowded but it never felt impossible to see what you wanted or to be able to afford it or the combination of the two.
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Goofyernmost
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That is correct. You do have to accept what Disney is doing otherwise you would have stayed home or found some different thing to do. You do not have to like it though and you can be upset that it isn't what it once was, but spending that much to go there is an acceptance and indication to management and stock holders that you are fine with everything.
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Mickey5150
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I love Test Track, Pirates is much better with the changes, the only bad thing about the Maelstrom changes is that now there is a line. Getting rid of paper fast passes was a great thing, what an absolute waste they were.
eliza61nyc
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I think I love you.
eliza61nyc
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And there is the gist, what should really be said is IN THEIR OPINION.
I'm ecstatic that they got rid of maelstrom.
I don't mind the complaining, in fact I'm shocked when anyone here says something nice. I know people say they "love" Disney. I think the correct sentence should be they love the "old" Disney. Complaining endlessly about everything is not what I consider liking a place.
I do get a giggle at how personal people take it, as if every thing Disney does should some how cater to them.
In general it doesn't bother me, I still love the place so I'm good
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JusticeDisney
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Oh, I get that. The problem is, just because you think a change is “dumb,” doesn’t necessarily mean other people do as well.