"You Just Don't Like Change"

Pepper's Ghost

Well-Known Member
People are allowed to dislike change when it's warranted, such as a ride removal or overhaul, adding prices to things that were free etc. But it's the little things that get me, like someone's entire vacation is going to be ruined because their favorite food spot made changes to their menu. Establishments like that make changes all the time. There was just a thread made about the resort tvs having their park channel with a different layout and wishing it was the same. Its the silly things that make me go "you dont like change".

Change is inevitable, it's up to each person on how to handle that change.
I agree with this 100%. Obviously big changes can be good, and everyone is going to feel differently about specific changes. I happen to like Mission: Space, but so many people hate it because of what was sacrificed. That was a huge change, but I never rode Horizons, so I don't know what was there before. My Youtube ride-throughs of Horizons I'm certain don't do it justice. Tron is a huge change that is looking like it will be a good one, but not everyone will agree. Being upset because of the resort TVs' park channel changed? Yeah, that's a little silly. Same thing about menu changes, although I can relate when a favorite food item of yours is removed. I've had that happen at favorite restaurants. It's very disappointing, but not enough to make me not want to go.

The fact that some people argue that "you just don't like change" is one of those extremely dismissive, and arrogant claims. Sure, a very small percentage of people don't like change at all, but to argue that anyone who doesn't like a specific change just because it's a change? Anyone who says that simply has no better argument to defend why they like the change.
Give it a little more time.
With all due respect, I think park reservations are here to stay... and I hate it. Like many have said, reservations might have been necessary to limit attendance during the pandemic, but they clearly are allowing everyone into the parks with only the parks' capacity limits as a guideline. Disney is keeping park reservations to control the crowds to their liking. Disney doesn't like when their cattle change their minds for any reason. I'll bet that sentence was actually stated in a Disney board meeting. With maintenance the way it is, if you decided last minute to go to another park because you heard/saw the HM and SpaceM are down, then they can't control you. Their way you can't change your mind. This lack of freedom makes me hate current Disney management, and is really what keeps me from returning to the parks until some major changes are made. That, and the fact that everyone is a slave to their phone while in the parks in order to have the opportunity to enjoy a fraction of what you could do years ago. I remember the days of riding several rides 3 or 4 times in a single day. FP+ and now lightning lane make that impossible. 15 years ago I'd ride HM and PotC so many times in a day that my wife refused to go back on. 🤣 The days of riding rides several times are long gone.
 
Disney should absolutely stay out of the business of politics. Whatever side you're on, it seems bad for the stock and business. If they pander to one side, the other side is upset and the news appears very detrimental to the share price.

Managing public opinion and promoting the Disney story have been two of Chapek's many failures.
I fully agree this is where I said I am truly done when they officially made it known their politics, sex and race a consideration in how they operate! And it's NOT because I am the opposite in my beliefs it's because I believe that the company should have remained nonbiased in all these things!

I would love to see an expanded exhibit on Walt and his family in the parks similar to what was/is in the waiting area of Mr. Lincon. Imagine a Mr Walt animatronics guiding you through his history and a connected museum!
 

CelebrationFL

Member
In the Parks
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Maelstrom to Frozen I believe is an objective example of doing something to pander on the cheap. Destroy an old classic ride and rush to install a few animatronics from Frozen.
That's exactly what happened. Everything felt rushed from start to finish. You have no idea how many times I've been called a "Frozen hater" for my views. lol
 
Okay, this needs to be said. I'm so tired of valid criticisms of the direction of the Disney parks being brushed aside by people saying "oh you just don't like change." It really has to stop.


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I agree! 100%! Change for the sake of change is never good. And it’s obvious that “changes” have resulted in the undesirable Disney that we now have!
 
We still have severe labor and supply shortages in the area where I live. Almost every hospitality business is hiring “for all positions.” I can’t imagine things are back to normal at WDW especially given the number of employees they need.
I disagree on labor shortage for Disney. When they opened back up, I got hundreds of job openings a day from Disney on indeed! Now I get one every couple days with a few jobs listed. Most positions are filled.
 

JusticeDisney

Well-Known Member
I agree! 100%! Change for the sake of change is never good. And it’s obvious that “changes” have resulted in the undesirable Disney that we now have!
I don’t find WDW to be undesirable at all. I definitely don’t like some of the changes, but overall I still have a blast there. If you truly find the place undesirable, that’s when you will see people say “well, then vacation somewhere else.” It’s not that such people are trying to be rude, it’s just that why would anyone vacation somewhere that they find undesirable? Anyway, at the end of the day, like I’ve said many times before, it’s all subjective.
 

Goofyernmost

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Maelstrom to Frozen I believe is an objective example of doing something to pander on the cheap. Destroy an old classic ride and rush to install a few animatronics from Frozen.
Let's not let the fact that both or those had already been declared dead. Both had become a waste of electricity. Very few people were riding them and even fewer understood was TGMR was about and Maelstrom was just a place to get out of the heat. You may have thought both were great but ridership was nothing like it had been previously. Maelstrom died long before TGMR but until Frozen came along they couldn't figure out what to put there and once Norway backed out of sponsorship it was continue running it as a loser or board it up. Be thankful for Frozen. TGMR had run it's course and it was a logical decision to give Mickey his own fresh attraction.
 
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Goofyernmost

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The attractions themselves were never the problem, good, bad, great or awful. The thing that did if for me was when in my accounting educated brain noticed the cost was higher then the value. Simple! I am one that tried, at least once, every single attraction in all the parks. I never asked others, I judged for myself over years of visiting the place. Some I liked better than others, but I always felt that all the attractions had their own values to me. But, like I said once the pendulum went in the wrong direction the level of my enjoyment went with it,.
 

spock8113

Well-Known Member
So it's the intensity and quality of change that people don't like. Even those are all subject to personal interpretation. One thing is a given, change is happening everywhere all the time.
From your personal life to your job to politics to economics to car models to the earth in general. Personally, I prefer quarters and NO pennies!
 

whiteness

New Member
I have an idea for Bob... literally double park ticket prices across the board. That should cut crowds down considerably. Even if it only cuts crowds by 40%, Disney would be way ahead from a revenue standpoint, and the parks would be 40% less crowded. I'd pay double for that!

Btw, I know how insane that sounds. Asking for price increases is crazy, but the only two solutions to overcrowding of the parks is 1) MASSIVE price increases, or 2) provide an inferior product so bad that people abandon the parks in droves. They've tried #2 already and people are still rushing to the parks. Time to try #1.
I think they should quadruple the price of Genie+ and Lightning Lanes. I think that would go a long way towards making the parks more enjoyable.
 

JusticeDisney

Well-Known Member
The "you hate change" accusation has been around for a while. It's just a cheap shot meant to dismiss those with different opinions.
No way. There are definitely people out there (indeed, many on this board) who simply b—ch about any change. It’s a fair criticism to make at times. Of course, there are also plenty of legitimate gripes to be had.
 

JusticeDisney

Well-Known Member
None of the following changes makes a trip to Disney better than it was before

Eliminating Disney Magical Express
Genie +
ILL
Park Reservations
Park hopping only after 2 and you must go to first park prior to park hopping
Of course, that’s all merely your opinion, which is totally fine. And while I agree with most of your complaints, I think ILL is phenomenal. Personally, I wish they would expand it to other rides.
 

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