Rumor Wreck-It-Ralph Attraction Likely to Replace Stitch’s Great Escape

[Magic Feather]

I'm confused. What part of a busbar dark ride is not ADA compliant, or OSHA compliant??

Nothing inherently wrong with a busbar dark ride. Just difficult for busbar dark rides on the scale of the original Fantasyland attractions if I recall.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I believe he was referring to the China Pavilion (Wonders of China and Reflections of China) as opposed to the country.

Could be, but there are parks in China so why would I just assume he was talking about EPCOT. Marni being Marni, a man of few words, it's hard to tell. I was referring to general cultures, not attractions.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Nothing inherently wrong with a busbar dark ride. Just difficult for busbar dark rides on the scale of the original Fantasyland attractions if I recall.

Merlin builds small dark rides in their Legoland Discovery Centers. They’re typically wire guided “trackless” but still very small and cheap. The issue for Disney is capacity and cost. It makes no financial sense to spend $100 million on a ride that handles less than 1,000 people per hour.

 

[pdude81]

Could be, but there are parks in China so why would I just assume he was talking about EPCOT. Marni being Marni, a man of few words, it's hard to tell. I was referring to general cultures, not attractions.

I could be wrong, but the clue to me was 39 years.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Merlin builds small dark rides in their Legoland Discovery Centers. They’re typically wire guided “trackless” but still very small and cheap. The issue for Disney is capacity and cost. It makes no financial sense to spend $100 million on a ride that handles less than 1,000 people per hour.

Put four copies of it in the same warehouse!!

 

[Goofyernmost]

I could be wrong, but the clue to me was 39 years.

I'm confused about how this relates to what I said. I said that Americans do not want to stand for 360 movies. But they did and complained constantly. If he was referring to China in Epcot, why didn't he include Canada as well? If he wants to clarify that is fine with me, if he doesn't I honestly do not give a damn. What say we just move on, this is a non-topic, topic and I am not going to waste my time on it any longer.

 

[pdude81]

I'm confused about how this relates to what I said. I said that Americans do not want to stand for 360 movies. But they did and complained constantly. If he was referring to China in Epcot, why didn't he include Canada as well? If he wants to clarify that is fine with me, if he doesn't I honestly do not give a damn. What say we just move on, this is a non-topic, topic and I am not going to waste my time on it any longer.

You asked me why you would assume he meant Epcot. 39 years is a pretty big clue, especially to someone who argues incessantly on a Disney message board all day. 39 years screams Epcot, unless your knowledge of Chinese culture would lead you to some other major event in the early 80s related to people sitting or standing for entertainment.

But don't forget that you also specifically said that circlevision shows didn't last in MK because because people would have to near twist off their heads to see everything. The China pavilion show has seating and the Canada is currently closed. But as you noted, Canada is standing anyway, and that's why he didn't say Canada.

Sometimes you're just wrong and it's ok to admit it, rather than twist your logic into something relevant to the conversation.

 

[Goofyernmost]

You asked me why you would assume he meant Epcot. 39 years is a pretty big clue, especially to someone who argues incessantly on a Disney message board all day. 39 years screams Epcot, unless your knowledge of Chinese culture would lead you to some other major event in the early 80s related to people sitting or standing for entertainment.

But don't forget that you also specifically said that circlevision shows didn't last in MK because because people would have to near twist off their heads to see everything. The China pavilion show has seating and the Canada is currently closed. But as you noted, Canada is standing anyway, and that's why he didn't say Canada.

Sometimes you're just wrong and it's ok to admit it, rather than twist your logic into something relevant to the conversation.

OK, I will admit that I was thinking along a completely different line and what didn't last in MK doesn't necessarily transfer into Epcot. I also will admit that I have never been in the China pavilion because I have absolutely no interest in China due to a lot of things. But that is a different story. They may have not changed it for all those years but that doesn't mean it worked well for people. As far as Canada is concerned, I was under the assumption that they were redoing it which is why it is closed now and not permanently. I also assumed that when Marni said his statement, I thought he was talking about something different than Epcot's China. I wasn't aware that China had a 360 movie so I didn't immediately identify with Epcot. For that I am sorry. However, I still think that culturally Americans and Chinese people would react differently and it had nothing to do with any particular WDW attraction, just a type of attraction and how different cultures would react differently. Unfortunately, that is what I was thinking about when Marni made his comment. Can we move on now please?

 

[yankspy]

Still scratching my head why they ever replaced Alien Encounter with Stitch

 

[CastAStone]

Still scratching my head why they ever replaced Alien Encounter with Stitch

Their research showed them that this unknown character was absolutely scaring the bejeesus out of small children, and they looked at the data and said, “why do we have this character scaring children? We should be scaring the absolute bejeesus out of children with a character from a movie we can sell merch against!”

 

[HMF]

I take it that Disney has given up on actually maintaining the theme of tomorrowland and are just throwing any IP they can into the space.

 

[fgmnt]

Merlin builds small dark rides in their Legoland Discovery Centers. They’re typically wire guided “trackless” but still very small and cheap. The issue for Disney is capacity and cost. It makes no financial sense to spend $100 million on a ride that handles less than 1,000 people per hour.

The cost to capacity problem is systemic throughout the company at the moment. Frankly, it would oddly behoove the company to value engineer B/C-ticket busbar dark rides to fill up Fantasyland for little money, not run a triple-E marketing campaign for them, and keep it moving.

Not like this is something TWDC has ever done before...

 

[Haymarket2008]

I take it that Disney has given up on actually maintaining the theme of tomorrowland and are just throwing any IP they can into the space.

Replace "Tomorrowland" with "Everything except for Animal Kingdom"

 

[Roger_the_pianist]

I saw Wreck It 2 on a tv in an airport and thought DANG make Tomorrowland the internet

 

[LittleBuford]

I take it that Disney has given up on actually maintaining the theme of tomorrowland and are just throwing any IP they can into the space.

Not IP, I know, but America Sings, which used to be located in Disneyland’s Tomorrowland, should be enough to dispel the idea that thematic relevance was sacrosanct in the good old days:

Yesterland: America Sings

www.yesterland.com

 

[Roger_the_pianist]

And then let's take a show from Tomorrowtown and make it a thrill ride with media tie ins to Ernest, Splash starring Tom Hanks, break dancing, and the most problematic Disney film EVER MADE.

 

[Roger_the_pianist]

Maybe there could be a happy meal toy, too with a viewmaster type thingy where Br'er Bear is riding a log and you start singing ZipADeeDooDah even though you live a thousand miles from any Disney park!

 

[Sharon&Susan]

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Not IP, I know, but America Sings, which used to be located in Disneyland’s Tomorrowland, should be enough to dispel the idea that thematic relevance was sacrosanct in the good old days:

Yesterland: America Sings

www.yesterland.com

America Sings was like the many Circlevision shows in Tomorrowland that while the subject itself wasn't futuristic, it was the theater technology that was. Even if it was a stretch to say that the Carousel Theater technology had any hope of being used outside a theme park vs. Circle Vision which there were definitely some people thinking it would catch on when it debuted.

 

[Movielover]

Seems to have worked fine for China for 39 years.

Was going to make a "China is a oppressive government that is suppressing all of the bad reviews of the pavilion" joke but the very very nice party official next to me holding a gun convinced me otherwise.

 

[MisterPenguin]

There's an inherent problem with theming anything to "tomorrow" or "the future."

Namely, tomorrow comes and what you have is now outdated.

Add to that bad choices about fitting in with the theme:

• combustion cars are not "Tomorrow" or part of a "Future World" (Speedway and Test Track);
• Carousel of Progress is 80% "the past"
• Imagination is not part of a Future World
• the optimism of 50s retro-futurism is not represented by an Alien that kills you or one that burps on you or one that tells jokes
• an aerial hang-glide over present-day places is not a "Future World"
• a history of human communication is not a "Future World"

Since Future World is going bye-bye, maybe it's time to say good-bye to Tommorowland.