World Of Color in WDW?

[RSoxNo1]

Yes, but DLR is in SoCal ... it can be scary for people. And what if they ... if they ... I can barely even say it ... have to stay OFF-PROPERTY ... it's real Anaheim ... and those freeways ... who wants to rent a car when on vacation when they can take a MAGICal bus standing body-to-body with smelly folks :drevil:.

I do think any Disney fan who has done WDW multiple times and doesn't go to DLR is ... nuts!

What's keeping my love for Disney parks alive isn't anything in O-Town ... it's being lucky enough to have been to all the others in the last year and take a DCL voyage.

Since the Millenium I have been to Disney World 15-20 times, probably for a total of around 125-150 days. I've stayed at a Disney World resort for 10 nights. 3 of them were at the Beach Club over the Millenium, and 7 of them were at Animal Kingdom Lodge last February when they were offering the buy 4 get 3 nights free deal.

Between off property time shares and condos it's far more affordable for me to stay off property. Sure, if money wasn't an object I'd stay and Deluxe hotels every trip (although if money wasn't an object I'd probably be traveling overseas). I know what I'm going to get in a Walt Disney World Vacation, and the combination of cheap Southwest flights, an annual pass and affordable lodging - it makes for very good value for my entertainment dollar.

Comparitively at Disneyland, the off property offerings are plentiful and better yet - within walking distance. Flights across the country are more expensive now than the were a year ago, but it's still fairly reasonable. In California you can stay within a 5 minute walk of Disneyland for under $70 a night - if you're willing to concede some of that "Disney Magic" that's offered by the hotels you can stretch your dollar so much more than some people do.

 

[WDWFigment]

Yes, but DLR is in SoCal ... it can be scary for people. And what if they ... if they ... I can barely even say it ... have to stay OFF-PROPERTY ... it's real Anaheim ... and those freeways ... who wants to rent a car when on vacation when they can take a MAGICal bus standing body-to-body with smelly folks :drevil:.

I do think any Disney fan who has done WDW multiple times and doesn't go to DLR is ... nuts!

What's keeping my love for Disney parks alive isn't anything in O-Town ... it's being lucky enough to have been to all the others in the last year and take a DCL voyage.

Prior to last summer, on what was pretty much a 'forced' trip (we were in SoCal anyway for a wedding, and we'd be remiss not to visit DLR while there), I was one of the people you're implicitly taking a shot at with this post. I felt some illogical loyalty to WDW only for whatever reason.

I was one of the people who seem to have a serious vested interest in their “home” park complex (despite, as best I can tell, none of these people actually living in either park) being superior to one on the opposite coast. No more than a year ago, I was one of these people, retorting “where’s your Epcot?!” when someone touted the number and quality of attractions in Disneyland.

That all changed once I actually visited Disneyland. I've stated the reasons why in other threads (if anyone even cares, anyway), but Disneyland blew me away.

Unapologetically, I will admit that I am one of the people you knock who likes to stay on property, doesn't like to rent a car to (to envelope myself in the "magic"), etc., but hey, different strokes for different folks. For me, staying in an off-site hotel and being exposed to the "real" California while walking home from the parks at 1:30 a.m. was the one downside for me (that, and the smaller scale of DLR).

My point is this - anyone who thinks that Disneyland on a substantive attraction level isn't blowing Walt Disney World out of the water is crazy. Those people clearly haven't actually been to Disneyland any time recently.

Right now, we have two trips planned to DLR for 2011. We scheduled the first one for when it seemed soft openings for Mermaid, Star Tours 2, and Sky School would begin. Now it looks like we'll miss all three by a couple weeks. Oh well, we'll be back many more times.

 

[DaGoof00]

Prior to last summer, on what was pretty much a 'forced' trip (we were in SoCal anyway for a wedding, and we'd be remiss not to visit DLR while there), I was one of the people you're implicitly taking a shot at with this post. I felt some illogical loyalty to WDW only for whatever reason.

I was one of the people who seem to have a serious vested interest in their “home” park complex (despite, as best I can tell, none of these people actually living in either park) being superior to one on the opposite coast. No more than a year ago, I was one of these people, retorting “where’s your Epcot?!” when someone touted the number and quality of attractions in Disneyland.

That all changed once I actually visited Disneyland. I've stated the reasons why in other threads (if anyone even cares, anyway), but Disneyland blew me away.

Unapologetically, I will admit that I am one of the people you knock who likes to stay on property, doesn't like to rent a car to (to envelope myself in the "magic"), etc., but hey, different strokes for different folks. For me, staying in an off-site hotel and being exposed to the "real" California while walking home from the parks at 1:30 a.m. was the one downside for me (that, and the smaller scale of DLR).

My point is this - anyone who thinks that Disneyland on a substantive attraction level isn't blowing Walt Disney World out of the water is crazy. Those people clearly haven't actually been to Disneyland any time recently.

Right now, we have two trips planned to DLR for 2011. We scheduled the first one for when it seemed soft openings for Mermaid, Star Tours 2, and Sky School would begin. Now it looks like we'll miss all three by a couple weeks. Oh well, we'll be back many more times.

I couldn't agree more! Disneyland is a FANTASTIC experience!!! Although there are elements where you can tell the park was the original - it has charm, and attraction superiority.

I've always made it a point to stay at the resort, just to make it feel a bit more immersive than staying off of the resort (I save the offsite for the rest of my SoCal adventures).

Disneyland is a fantastic experience; although I still have my "home park" mentality - I highly recommend all visit the original, you won't be disappointed!
:slurp:

 

[cheezbat]

I grew up coming to Walt Disney World. It made sense since we had family down in Florida, so we always ended just staying with them. Now that I live down here, I still have never had the chance, and really no reason to stay in one of the resort hotels at Disney. It's just too expensive. Once I headed to Disneyland back in 2007 for the first time, I contemplated actually staying at one of the Disney hotels, but the prices are so much higher than the hotels/motels nearby. Even though the 'magic' aspect may not be part of the surrounding hotels, a number of the places there are nice enough.
Disneyland is a must for ANY Disney fan. To never take a trip there to the ORIGINAL and see just how superior the park is compared to the WDW parks...would just be a shame. I vacation every year out there now.

 

[COProgressFan]

Prior to last summer, on what was pretty much a 'forced' trip (we were in SoCal anyway for a wedding, and we'd be remiss not to visit DLR while there), I was one of the people you're implicitly taking a shot at with this post. I felt some illogical loyalty to WDW only for whatever reason.

I was one of the people who seem to have a serious vested interest in their “home” park complex (despite, as best I can tell, none of these people actually living in either park) being superior to one on the opposite coast. No more than a year ago, I was one of these people, retorting “where’s your Epcot?!” when someone touted the number and quality of attractions in Disneyland.

That all changed once I actually visited Disneyland. I've stated the reasons why in other threads (if anyone even cares, anyway), but Disneyland blew me away.

Unapologetically, I will admit that I am one of the people you knock who likes to stay on property, doesn't like to rent a car to (to envelope myself in the "magic"), etc., but hey, different strokes for different folks. For me, staying in an off-site hotel and being exposed to the "real" California while walking home from the parks at 1:30 a.m. was the one downside for me (that, and the smaller scale of DLR).

My point is this - anyone who thinks that Disneyland on a substantive attraction level isn't blowing Walt Disney World out of the water is crazy. Those people clearly haven't actually been to Disneyland any time recently.

Right now, we have two trips planned to DLR for 2011. We scheduled the first one for when it seemed soft openings for Mermaid, Star Tours 2, and Sky School would begin. Now it looks like we'll miss all three by a couple weeks. Oh well, we'll be back many more times.

Well said! WDW was always been my home park and I have lots of affinity for it and lots of childhood memories. Regardless of the state of WDW, for most people in the northeast or midwest, Florida, especially in the winter, is like a Shangri-la. Warm weather, palm trees, beaches, and relatively quick and cheap to get to (flying or driving). WDW is a part of all of that as the entire property has a very warm climate "resort" feel. That is appealing for lots of folks.

California is a bit farther off in terms of travel and could be more expensive or not, but I would highly recommend it for anyone who is a regular WDW visitor. While it certainly has its flaws, and is not as removed from "reality" as WDW, it truly is a wonderful experience. There certainly is enough to keep a true Disney fan occupied at DLR for 3-4 days, and then there is the countless number of other things in SoCal to see.

I wish I could get out there more often!

 

[WDW1974]

Prior to last summer, on what was pretty much a 'forced' trip (we were in SoCal anyway for a wedding, and we'd be remiss not to visit DLR while there), I was one of the people you're implicitly taking a shot at with this post. I felt some illogical loyalty to WDW only for whatever reason.

My only shot really is at people who choose to only visit WDW ad nauseum and THEN get angry or take shots when people who visit DL regularly (or the parks in Asia and Europe or in some cases, all!) criticize WDW and explain why things may be better elsewhere.

If someone choose to spend their entire life eating chocolate ice cream because they enjoy it, then that's fine. But please don't tell people who enjoy other flavors that chocolate is the best when you don't know any differently (and have likely convinced yourself long ago that nothing could possibly be better).

I guess I am loyal to WDW since I've been hundreds and hundreds of times for decades. But that doesn't mean I'm going to shut my mind off to the idea things can (and are) better elsewhere.

I was one of the people who seem to have a serious vested interest in their “home” park complex (despite, as best I can tell, none of these people actually living in either park) being superior to one on the opposite coast. No more than a year ago, I was one of these people, retorting “where’s your Epcot?!” when someone touted the number and quality of attractions in Disneyland.

That all changed once I actually visited Disneyland. I've stated the reasons why in other threads (if anyone even cares, anyway), but Disneyland blew me away.

I don't get the vested interest part. That's something that scares me about fans ... when it gets to be like religion or politics. I love WDW and want it to be the best it can be. But feeling that way, doesn't give them a pass.

I love Epcot, but not nearly as much as EPCOT Center. And I can have an amazing time at a Disney resort without it.

Unapologetically, I will admit that I am one of the people you knock who likes to stay on property, doesn't like to rent a car to (to envelope myself in the "magic"), etc., but hey, different strokes for different folks. For me, staying in an off-site hotel and being exposed to the "real" California while walking home from the parks at 1:30 a.m. was the one downside for me (that, and the smaller scale of DLR).

My point is this - anyone who thinks that Disneyland on a substantive attraction level isn't blowing Walt Disney World out of the water is crazy. Those people clearly haven't actually been to Disneyland any time recently.

Right now, we have two trips planned to DLR for 2011. We scheduled the first one for when it seemed soft openings for Mermaid, Star Tours 2, and Sky School would begin. Now it looks like we'll miss all three by a couple weeks. Oh well, we'll be back many more times.

Well, obviously, I can only agree with the above. Other than Mansion and ToT, I don't know attractions that are at both resorts that are actually better in FLA ... I suppose one could argue for JC ... and BTMRR used to qualify, but it is in just a pathetic show state.

I'd rather the weather in SoCal most of the time as well. It's kind of nice to be able to put a light coat on at night in summer in Anaheim when in O-Town your clothes are stuck to you from the minute you leave your hotel room. I also like the fact you can literally walk to so many places to eat, so you aren't a prisoner of the rodent.

But I'd just rather be in SoCal than in O-Town for so many reasons.

 

[Laufschneller65]

I think the best thing we should take from WOC and Bring to WDW is at Epcot. When the next update for Illumniations is here, they should Drain World Showcase Lagoon and put in 4 giant concrete pads to support a structure that will act as the new water jets. Currently the Barges they bring out for the water jets are kinda lame, and too small for that huge lagoon. if they could possibly put in 4 large water jet sections that are placed closer to the perimeter, I think this would provide for a much better show, And the water jet scenes wouldn't be so boring.

Now as for the feasibility and safety given the fact that the platforms underwater would have to have floating markers to avoid being plowed under by Friendship boats. We'll see if we borrow these updated, and much more exciting water jets

 

[DocMcHulk]

Could some of the technology come to the Fountain of Nations?

 

[marksniles]

How about at Pleasure Island?

 

[TP2000]

I think I'll start with this one...

Prior to last summer, on what was pretty much a 'forced' trip (we were in SoCal anyway for a wedding, and we'd be remiss not to visit DLR while there), I was one of the people you're implicitly taking a shot at with this post...

That all changed once I actually visited Disneyland. I've stated the reasons why in other threads (if anyone even cares, anyway), but Disneyland blew me away. .....

My point is this - anyone who thinks that Disneyland on a substantive attraction level isn't blowing Walt Disney World out of the water is crazy. Those people clearly haven't actually been to Disneyland any time recently.

And then this one...

I couldn't agree more! Disneyland is a FANTASTIC experience!!! Although there are elements where you can tell the park was the original - it has charm, and attraction superiority.

And this one was nice too...

Disneyland is a must for ANY Disney fan. To never take a trip there to the ORIGINAL and see just how superior the park is compared to the WDW parks would just be a shame.

This emoticon would come in handy for me right about now.

I've been saying pretty much all of the above for years. But for so long so many Midwesterners and East Coasters just didn't get it, and never considered anything but WDW for their Disney fix. It's just so gratifying to see so many Disney fans wake up and smell the coffee and figure out that Walt's original park, the only park Walt ever walked and talked and dined and played in, is actually noticeably better than the WDW versions.

It's like people finally get it, and I think the Internet has been a major part of that awakening for Disney fans east of the Rockies. The 1.2 Billion they are pouring in to DCA now is a huge change for DLR, but the 50th was also a big turning point for Disneyland, right about the same time the lessened maintenance standards were really becoming apparent at WDW. Been on Peter Pan on each coast lately? Enough said.

It's humorous for me to see folks finally come around, and be willing to talk about it publicly after witnessing Disneyland Resort for themselves.

Now, I can only imagine if many of you took a plane farther west and ended up in Tokyo. Golly, imagine the message board posts then! :lol:

 

[marni1971]

DLR has more attractions than Magic Kingdom, but WDW has 4 parks to spread it out .

So shouldn`t WDW have 4 times the budget to spend on actual attractions?

I do think any Disney fan who has done WDW multiple times and doesn't go to DLR is ... nuts!

That was me upto last year, mainly for money reasons. But now I`ve seen the light.

There again I saw some of the light on each trip to DLP too.

 

[TropicalFig8]

I think it should stay in DL. It just wouldn't fit in WDW.

I remember a rumor about World of Color replacing Fantasmic in DHS,but it died down afterwards.

 

[TP2000]

So shouldn`t WDW have 4 times the budget to spend on actual attractions?

To be fair, it would actually be 2 times the budget for WDW based on DLR's two parks versus WDW's four parks. But yeah, clearly there's a budgetary game being played in WDW and there's some funds missing. DLR seems to pour everything they can get into the theme parks; you know, those things that make the property exist in the first place? :lol:

That was me upto last year, mainly for money reasons. But now I`ve seen the light.

And we are happy to have you joing us out here in SoCal, when you can! :wave:

 

[menamechris]

To be fair, it would actually be 2 times the budget for WDW based on DLR's two parks versus WDW's four parks. But yeah, clearly there's a budgetary game being played in WDW and there's some funds missing. DLR seems to pour everything they can get into the theme parks; you know, those things that make the property exist in the first place? :lol:

I have to admit, the last few years, there has been an extreme lack of focus here in Florida. There are too many things going on that distract from the parks and guest experience (DVC, Golden Oak, scrambling of much overdue routine maintenance, Weddings, the DTD disaster, the resorts) . And many things that they DO add (Wild Trek tour comes to mind), they want to charge an extra $200 for. The impression is that management here is extremely overwelmed and incapable...

 

[jt04]

To be fair, it would actually be 2 times the budget for WDW based on DLR's two parks versus WDW's four parks. But yeah, clearly there's a budgetary game being played in WDW and there's some funds missing. DLR seems to pour everything they can get into the theme parks; you know, those things that make the property exist in the first place? :lol:



And we are happy to have you joing us out here in SoCal, when you can! :wave:

It is called robbing Peter to pay Paul and I have a feeling it will end once Carsland is finished.

DL is the oldest of Walt's "children" and the last out of the nest. California

PS- Give me the clean air at WDW anyday.

 

[TP2000]

It is called robbing Peter to pay Paul and I have a feeling it will end once Carsland is finished.

DL is the oldest of Walt's "children" and the last out of the nest. California

I think you really can't use the 1.2 Billion dollar Extreme Makeover of DCA Circa 2009-12 as an argument there. What is happening at DCA now is a total anomaly, and completely unprecedented in the history of Disney theme parks, if not the history of all theme parks. When, for gosh sakes, has any theme park operator gone in and torn out a perfectly good main entrance complex and rebuilt it just 10 years after the place opened, just because they wanted to make it look prettier? Never. DCA's Extreme Makeover can't be used as a compare/contrast to any other operating Disney theme park, it's just too weird to try and compare.

That said, the record of the two American properties prior to the DCA Extreme Makeover that got started in '09 shows the two properties on the same different path they are still on today. TDA focuses on new rides and new major entertainment and big-budget refreshes of existing attractions, while TDO focuses on DVC and hotels and third-party development on leased Disney land.

If something changes with that same basic pattern after Cars Land opens next summer, it seems it would need to be triggered by some major personnel changes in the TDO executive offices.

PS- Give me the clean air at WDW anyday.

Oh, jt my good man, please tell me you didn't just bust out a smog joke? Lemme check, it is the 21st century, right?... Yeah, it is.

I think the last time smog jokes were relevant was when Johnny Carson used them in his monologues, circa 1975. I know you haven't visited SoCal yet, but the air quality is dramatically improved and the phrase "smog" isn't something kids today even know about. I still remember it, and remember the Smog Alert days of the 1970's and 80's.

But really jt, you might as well drag out the bell bottoms and 8-track tapes if you are going to try using smog in an argument about Southern California.

 

[misterID]

I'll be taking my first trip to DL soon, instead of WDW.

Basically I'm kind of fed up with the treatment of EPCOT and the fact that it's lost a lot of appeal for me from what it used to be. Putting in a refurbed Imagination would do a lot to help fix this, but it's pretty apparent that's not happening.

Also the lack of development in AK. I want to visit a park where the people who run it (TDO) actually care about adding great attractions and care what their guests think.

It's not just skipping WDW for DLR based on principle, but also buying a park hopper pass on a vacation, I'm not as excited about what they're offering compared to DLR.

WDW was my home park. Never thought in a million years I'd go to DL over WDW. It's kind of sad. I really hope once the DCA expansion is over they'll shift all their attention to WDW.

 

[TP2000]

WDW was my home park. Never thought in a million years I'd go to DL over WDW. It's kind of sad. I really hope once the DCA expansion is over they'll shift all their attention to WDW.

A reliable "insider" on another website board I frequent posted the info quoted below late Wednesday night about a section of DCA's Paradise Pier that they purposely haven't touched in the big remodel because it's widely rumored to be the site of a future dark ride. Here's their scoop on what's coming to that untouched corner of DCA.

...A Ratatouille Dark Ride.

The same dark ride which is being planned for Walt Disney Studios Paris.

The queue for the attraction will be in a new building where the "Side Show T-Shirts" store currently stands, and where the Maliboomer Park is now. The show building will occupy the current Parade warehouse and costuming building behind Paradise Pier.

The ride will be a trackless dark ride, similar to Pooh's Hunny Hunt in Tokyo. The ride might even occupy two levels, much like the Transformers attraction being built at Universal Studios. The ride will also utilize a dome projection technology, where the ride vehicles (made to resemble giant cooking pots) will enter a dome shaped room where projections on the dome will simulate fast paced movement.

Originally a Ratatouille attraction was planned to replace Muholland Madness in Paradise Pier. With this ride currently being planned for Paris, it makes sense that Imagineering would be planning to put this attraction in other Disney parks too, such as DCA.

And who knows, this ride may be coming to WDW too! That wouldn't surprise me. But I don't think jt's idea that Burbank executives will somehow shift all money away from Anaheim and towards Orlando beginning Labor Day Weekend, 2012 is quite accurate.

There's apparently already a pretty strong concept for DCA's new dark ride, coming sooner rather than later. :lol:

 

[WDWFigment]

It is called robbing Peter to pay Paul and I have a feeling it will end once Carsland is finished.

DL is the oldest of Walt's "children" and the last out of the nest. California

PS- Give me the clean air at WDW anyday.

I know you make it a point to come across as uninformed and oblivious to reality in as many of your posts as possible, but have you ever actually (physically) set foot in Disneyland or Disney California Adventure?*

(Please note: this is a yes or no question, calling for a one-word answer, not a cryptic string of BS or some vague reference to your marvelous posting history.)

 

[Bolna]

If someone choose to spend their entire life eating chocolate ice cream because they enjoy it, then that's fine. But please don't tell people who enjoy other flavors that chocolate is the best when you don't know any differently (and have likely convinced yourself long ago that nothing could possibly be better).

I think this is a great comparison! And it does not have to be about chocolate ice cream being better than anything else, other flavours are just different and one might end up liking them for very different reasons.

There is something I really enjoy about all of the Disney resorts I know so far (still miss the Asian ones) and I like the fact that they aren't clones of each other. Therefore I rather hope that World of Colour won't come to WDW. It is great to have it in California as their special thing. But I would love it if they came up with a new night-time entertainment for AK - if that would incorporate some of the WoC elements, that's fine. But isn't a new and different show much better than a clone??