HouCuseChickie
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Thank you! I'm going to look at this during lunch. I may find I can't do it all, but doing some is better than nothing. Thanks again!
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Thank you! I'm going to look at this during lunch. I may find I can't do it all, but doing some is better than nothing. Thanks again!
HouCuseChickie
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I used to want a double oven, but I worry about it handling a large turkey. Priorities
Most people I know that have them said they can't go over 20lbs. That being said, I would like a new oven. This house came with a large capacity convection oven and after nearly 5 years, we still haven't gotten to work as well as a conventional oven. It's a big part of why we bought the big roaster for turkeys. I could see the double oven being very handy if you do a lot of pies or cookies and need different temps all at once.Yes, I could understand why you'd want to stay clear of Whirlpool. Even if it's a perfectly fine machine, you had a bad experience. It's kind of like cars...someone could tell you that one particular make is wonderful, but if you got a bad one, you write it off for life.
MinnieM123
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(Just an fyi: Tara Lipinski was 15 years old, when she won the Olympic Gold Medal for the U. S.)Hello-
I'm checking in with a full body strength training workout. It was good, enjoyable even.
I didn't watch the Olympics, because I just wasn't interested. I knew there was some figure skating drama surrounding the Russian Federation and doping (This is my shocked face.) I started watching this video essay a woman made on YouTube about the state of Women's Figure Skating and how the winning skaters are getting younger and younger. OMG. These poor girls. I guess doing all of these quad jumps gets extra points in competition, this coach (Eteri Tutuberdze) gets these girls really young and has them begin jumping straightaway. Because it's impossible for an adult woman to pull off the quad jumps, she pushes these young girls into the seniors where they are eligible to compete in the World Championships and Olympics. These girls get just enough food to subsist upon to stay small. These girls are conditioned to think the onset of puberty means getting fat and they fear it. They are forced to practice injured (stress fractures, torn hip tendons) and their practices are grueling. These girls are programmed to be one hit wonders who shine intensely and flame out quickly. When one girl is just over her peak, this coach has three girls lined up to take her place. These girls are over the hill at 16-18 and have life long injuries. One girl had to go into an impatient eating disorder clinic in Israel because of training with this woman. It is like a factory where these girls are just viewed as an ephemeral, yet replaceable product. Why is it ok to treat young girls like this?
Contrast that to an article I read a week or so ago about Kristi Yamaguchi. She was 20 when she won the gold medal! Not only that, there was a picture of her, Nancy Kerrigan and Midori Itō on the podium at the 1992 Olympics and they are very strong and athletic looking.
Songbird76
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Yeah, I don't see any whirlpools in my future either...it only lasted something like 2 years.
Songbird76
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It's the same with Gymnasts. Have you heard of all the stuff with Larry Nassar and the Karolyis, etc? Girls were subject to molestation in the name of medical treatment, and the Karolyis knew about complaints and hired him anyway and he had full access to all the athletes. And they were forced to compete with injuries....just look at Kerri Strug. They didn't even need her to do her second vault after she landed wrong and he made her do it anyway and she collapsed afterwards. She had a severe injury and was forced to continue. And a lot of teams do things like that. I remember watching the olympic gymnastics when I was young, and there was this girl from Russia or Romania...Tatiana Gutsu. They did a whole feature on her about how her whole family with grandparents and everyone lived in a one room apartment. They were poor, and the country was counting on her to win a medal. If she did, her family would get a new place to live, supplied by the government....they would be taken care of. And then she fell from the beam I think? She didn't make the finals. There was a younger girl on the team, who was really not expected to do really well and there was nothing riding on it for her. They made her pretend to have an injury to give up her spot to Tatiana Gutsu because Gutsu was more likely to win a medal. This poor girl had worked so hard and had earned the honor to compete for her country, and they forced her to give it up. Then there's the age controvery with the Chinese gymnastics team where they had girls who were like 13 competing when the rules said you had to be 16, but these little girls are more flexible and small. It was discovered that the birth year on her passport didn't match the one on the documentation or something? I remember those girls looking soooooo young, but they swore up and down that they were eligible to compete. News articles in China about the athletes listing their ages in previous competitions were suddenly gone. Internet sleuths found articles that gave the girls' ages as being too young to compete, and China said it was a misprint.Hello-
I'm checking in with a full body strength training workout. It was good, enjoyable even.
I didn't watch the Olympics, because I just wasn't interested. I knew there was some figure skating drama surrounding the Russian Federation and doping (This is my shocked face
Contrast that to an article I read a week or so ago about Kristi Yamaguchi. She was 20 when she won the gold medal! Not only that, there was a picture of her, Nancy Kerrigan and Midori Itō on the podium at the 1992 Olympics and they are very strong and athletic looking.
I think the whole world of competitive sporting is rife with corruption, abuse, etc. I can't really remember an olympics that DIDN'T have some sort of scandal with doping, cheating, abuse of athletes...there was the East German swim team one year who all looked like they were on steroids, there was the Russian federation who couldn't compete under their own flag because of the doping accusations, there was the American track star who apparently smoked weed and was pulled...whenever there's competition, there's corruption.
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Songbird76
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Yeah, I have my grocery store app, whatsapp, an app for E's school schedule, my agenda, facebook messenger...those are the ones I use most often. E is setting it up for me now. It came this morning and she's home from school with a sore throat and her teachers aren't starting teams meetings so she can follow along from home, so she's using the time to set up my phone for me.
MinnieM123
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Knock on wood, my Whirlpool will last -- an impellar washing machine that I bought a year ago for $650, which was in the somewhat moderate price range. (You have to follow a different way of loading the clothes and not to overload, and throw off the sensors.) (My older agitator machine was much easier to use. So I'm hoping that if I follow directions exactly with it, it will last a number of years. I average 4 washes a week. (Oh, I don't let hubs near it, as i know he wouldn't have the patience to follow the loading/soap directions precisely. )
Whirlpool washer bought new 1994, still running minus missing buttons and scratches on washer, whirlpool fridge 1994-2017 until it finally went kaput. Whirlpool dishwasher 1994 and still works.Knock on wood, my Whirlpool will last -- an impellar washing machine that I bought a year ago for $650, which was in the somewhat moderate price range. (You have to follow a different way of loading the clothes and not to overload, and throw off the sensors.) (My older agitator machine was much easier to use. So I'm hoping that if I follow directions exactly with it, it will last a number of years. I average 4 washes a week. (Oh, I don't let hubs near it, as i know he wouldn't have the patience to follow the loading/soap directions precisely. )
MinnieM123
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The older appliances lasted longer, at least that's what I've read from multiple online reviews (various brands). Glad you had some great luck with the older ones -- hang on to them as long as you can.
Sans Souci
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Yes, I thought of her while I was watching this video essay. This YouTube video mentioned her and said younger teens have always been a part of national teams, but they never made up the bulk of the team. Tara Lipinski retired at 18, too, because of injuries. I think the concern is some nation's teams are made up of very young girls, because current judging gives the highest points to these programs with lots of quad jumps. Apparently, these quad jumps are impossible to do once a girl goes through puberty. This video suggested diversity in programming is vanishing b/c of this. I don't even know why I watched this video! lol I used to follow figure skating when I was younger, but I guess as I got older, other things took up my time.
Sans Souci
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This video did compare the Karolyi training center to what is going on in Russia with these girls. I think that might be the old skool USSR coaching method they brought with them. I remember the Chinese gymnasts, too. I think there might have been swimmers, too? But I might be misremembering.
I understand that committing to becoming an Olympic-level athlete requires sacrifice in many forms and even dealing with injuries, but some of this stuff goes beyond that.
I think when you have young girls and isolate them from their families and you allow many people (physicians, assistant coaches, choreographers, etc) access to these girls, nothing good will come out of it. I used to enjoy the Olympics when I was a kid. I miss when both games convened in the same year, instead of this staggering nonsense. I only tuned into the summer games last year to watch Simone Biles, but that was it. Even then I had mixed feelings about watching her, because I sometimes wonder if the audience unwittingly enables this behavior by creating demand for the product.
Sans Souci
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Happy Friday!
Checking in with an upper body workout.
I want to get out for a walk, but it's rainy and raw outside. It is supposed to get up to 50, so I am hoping this clears up a bit.
I have been trying to read Apollo 13 at bedtime. When I get into bed, I swear, I get through 1.5-2 pages before my eyelids get heavy. It's not because it's boring, I think it's because I put the electric blanket on an hour before I get into bed and I am just too cozy and comfortable.
I think I'll try to find some time in the day to read it, instead.
Checking in with an upper body workout.
I want to get out for a walk, but it's rainy and raw outside. It is supposed to get up to 50, so I am hoping this clears up a bit.
I have been trying to read Apollo 13 at bedtime. When I get into bed, I swear, I get through 1.5-2 pages before my eyelids get heavy. It's not because it's boring, I think it's because I put the electric blanket on an hour before I get into bed and I am just too cozy and comfortable.
I think I'll try to find some time in the day to read it, instead.
Songbird76
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I knew I was butchering their name but I was busy setting up my new phone and was too lazy to look up how to spell Karolyi. I'm betting that they did bring that style of coaching with them...it was very high stakes in those Eastern European countries known for Gymnastics. But it makes me sad that that's what the Olympics became. It used to be a way of celebrating talent and hard work, showcasing the best of the best. Now it's become about the medal count and these smaller countries can't really compete, because they are working with a smaller pool of talent to choose from, and when they get a really good athlete, a lot of times they are lost to one of the bigger countries that can offer them more. So it becomes more about the cut-throat competition than about showcasing the talent. And some of the countries with harsh government controls are put under enormous pressure to win. Poor Tatiana Gutsu knew that if she didn't get a medal, her family would be practically homeless, and she was only like 16 or 17....to have that kind of burden for your whole family, and your entire country, on your shoulders at such a young age...it was really heartbreaking when she fell, because you could just see the horror she felt, that she had let everyone down and it was all over. And then the poor girl who had to give up her chance to give Gutsu another bite at the apple...these athletes are dealing with some really tough situations at really young ages. I wonder what the statistics are about mental health issues among the really high stakes competitive sporting like Olympics. I mean, there's some unhealthy pressure already in sports with little kids, or within high schools, but I bet it's nothing compared to the really intense levels like international competitions.
Sans Souci
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I had to look her up because her name doesn't ring a bell to me. But I agree that there is probably a lot of linger mental health issues. Girls shouldn't have to keep their families from being homeless. That's waaaayyy too much pressure to place onto a child's shoulders. I read that Gutsu had to share her winnings with the girl she replaced. I saw that this current Russian figure skating coach was making a big deal out of one of her skaters couldn't stop eating and she was getting fat. She was saying this to the Russian press. This girl ended up in an eating disorder clinic. Why is someone's weight the public's business? She also makes these girls weigh in--surprise weigh ins. Your weight fluctuates daily and through out the day. She claims that a gain of 200 grams makes them unable to do these quad jumps. That's not even half a pound, spare me. Even *if* a coach was concerned about someone's weight, take care of it in private. I mean, just the coach and the skater. This coach tries to delay the onset of puberty through caloric restriction and rigorous training.
Sans Souci
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Hello-
Yesterday I did a glute/leg workout and I got out for a walk. Today is a rest day, but I'm going to get for a walk later. I'm thinking of driving somewhere to walk to change up the scenery. There's a park with a riverwalk nearby, so I might go there. It takes about 45 min to complete the circuit.
I'm feeling lazy today, so I am throwing a bunch of stuff in my crock pot and calling it dinner.
Yesterday I did a glute/leg workout and I got out for a walk. Today is a rest day, but I'm going to get for a walk later. I'm thinking of driving somewhere to walk to change up the scenery. There's a park with a riverwalk nearby, so I might go there. It takes about 45 min to complete the circuit.
I'm feeling lazy today, so I am throwing a bunch of stuff in my crock pot and calling it dinner.
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Michelle Kwan was also very young
MinnieM123
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That's true -- she was only 13 when she first competed in the World Championships (came in 8th that year).
Sans Souci
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She is now the US Ambassador to Belize. That is so awesome. Good for her.