StarWarsGirl
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They need to take lessons from Disney. I have an entire thread posted about it already, but masks were required everywhere except on the pool deck and when eating, and they were enforcing distancing.
Hilton Head Island with Social Distancing
We badly needed a vacation, and Hilton Head Island had a studio open last minute. We just arrived. Masks: You're supposed to wear them everywhere on property minus the pool deck, including bike riding. They are not required at the Beach House except in Signals. In practice, most people seem to...forums.wdwmagic.com
We just went to Hersheypark in PA and they were definitely enforcing there as well.
Is Virginia on the list? Their beaches are pretty nice.
Beach wise no, although we were also talking about going to Williamsburg since it's outside and relatively easy to social distance. My friend relocated to Virginia Beach, though I'm not sure how crowded it is. When we passed through, people were socially distanced.I don't think it is--yet. I'll have a look. Do you have any recommendations?
Disturbed a yellow jacket nest today while doing some yard work. Before I could get out of there I got popped three times, two on the shoulder and one on the bicep. The bicep sting is really aching and swollen even after a medicated ointment and benadryl. Hope it eases up soon. I just can't think of anything good about yellow jackets. Whining over.
They're total jerks.
I think it's awesome that you want him to have the experience of living on campus. My relationship with my mom tanked my senior year of high school because she was having major problems letting go. She wanted to move to the town I would be going to college in so I could still live with her and we had a huge fight because I told her she could move, but I wasn't going to live with her. I was going to live in the dorms and I wanted the full experience of living on campus. I was never a partier, so that wasn't an issue, but she was so strict and part of going to college is learning to be independent. I knew that would never happen living at home. I was horrified at the thought of my college friends making plans to go out to a movie or something and me having to say I couldn't go because it was past my curfew. I really respect and admire that you are trying to give your son the space to transition to being an adult and learning his way in the world.We're still trying to find out my son's housing arrangements. Long before this was an issue, we requested a private room for him. He is on the spectrum and he keeps odd hours. It's ironic, because I wanted him to live on campus and he wanted to drive in. Now, I am not so confident about him living on campus. Does anyone really think 18 year olds are going to socially distance? Honestly?
I hope you guys have a fun and safe trip. Like I said in an earlier post, I'd love to get out, but anywhere we'd like to go requires a 2 week self quarantine when we return. I believe the list contains 22 states now! LOL I can't imagine not leaving the house for two weeks. I'd miss my walks.
The shoe thing doesn't apply to me. I have a pair of gym shoes I wear most of the time because they are the best for my hip....they are the only ones I'll wear to work or if I'm going to be walking a lot. I have a pair of ankle boots to wear for less casual events or performances with choir. And I have a pair of sandals to wear when the weather is warm. That's it. I'm not a shoe girl. I do like bags, but I'm very very picky about them.I can't even imagine my wife going on a girls trip and them not doing at least some shopping. She likes both sets of the Tanger Outlets and I did get a nice surprise shirt from the Tommy Bahama outlet! And she came home with another Kate Spade handbag, because apparently bags are like shoes, you can't have too many I suppose.
I think it's awesome that you want him to have the experience of living on campus. My relationship with my mom tanked my senior year of high school because she was having major problems letting go. She wanted to move to the town I would be going to college in so I could still live with her and we had a huge fight because I told her she could move, but I wasn't going to live with her. I was going to live in the dorms and I wanted the full experience of living on campus. I was never a partier, so that wasn't an issue, but she was so strict and part of going to college is learning to be independent. I knew that would never happen living at home. I was horrified at the thought of my college friends making plans to go out to a movie or something and me having to say I couldn't go because it was past my curfew. I really respect and admire that you are trying to give your son the space to transition to being an adult and learning his way in the world.
Why does he want to drive in? Just because it's familiar and comfortable?
My parents divorced when I was 6 and my dad didn't believe in girls going to college at all. He refused to pay for my brother to go, even, because he never went himself and he was always bitter about that. My brother got a full ride on an academic scholarship, so it turned out not to matter for him. But when I was 14, my dad insisted we go to see his lawyer to talk about our futures. My discussion consisted of the lawyer telling me that, as a female, college was a waste as I'd never graduate anyway. Girls only need to go to college to find a husband, so I'd get stars in my eyes after a year or two and drop out to get married, so it was a waste of money. And if by some miracle I did actually graduate and get a diploma, my degree would be worth nothing, because I was a woman and the only careers suitable for women were teacher, secretery, or nurse, and ONLY until I had a husband to support me. I ended up with a tuition and fees scholarship, so I just had to pay room, board, and books and I got enough cash scholarships to pay for my first whole year, then worked to pay my room and board the rest of the time, so that didn't stop me either. My mom said the reason she wanted to move was so that I wouldn't have to pay for room and board, but really, she wanted to be close to my brother, who went to the same college, and because she wanted to keep control of me. She didn't like the idea of me being on my own. I wasn't like her in character and she didn't like the way that I handled things and didn't trust me to make decisions because I might not make the same ones she did. She wanted me to live with her so she could still make the rules. When I told her she could move, but I was going to live in the dorms anyway, she got really angry and told everyone I "wouldn't let her move". Like I had any sort of say in where she lived! But she said there was no point in it if I wouldn't live there with her. Then when she'd visit us, she'd wait till I went to the bathroom and go through my room looking for my checkbook so she could see how I was spending my money, she'd listen to my messages on the answering machine, open my mail. I had to hide everything from her. I actually lost my checkbook for MONTHS after her first visit because when she interrogated me about how I was spending my money, I decided to hide it all, then couldn't remember where I hid it. I disconnected my answering machine when I walked in and caught her listening to my messages. I was already....21 I think, by that time?Were your parents divorced at that point? I couldn't see my husband being happy if I told him I was moving to the same college town as a my son. (I never would, either way). I don't blame you for being horrified about having to tell your friends you have a curfew when you're away at college. My mom is someone who has poor boundaries, too. I went to ASU, because I wanted to be as far away from her as I could. (I had to drop out, though, because I got sick and I felt there were better hospitals/treatments in Chicago than Phoenix.)
As far as my son, I just think it's best if he became a little more independent. We suggested schools out of state, but he wanted to stay near our town. So he chose a small state college that's a 45 minute drive away. Obviously, this was all pre-COIVD 19 and I am waiting for the school to communicate what they are doing to mitigate the risk. Do people really think 18 year olds away from home for the first time are NOT going to go to parties, are NOT going to hook up, are NOT going to share a bong or a joint, etc. I know not all 18 year old behave like this, but it only takes a few. I also think the communal nature of dorm life will make this spread like wild fire. There are shared bathrooms and elevators. Who is going to make sure rules are followed? I will leave it up to my son and hope for the best. TBH, I don't think he'd want to go if he felt he wasn't safe.
My parents divorced when I was 6 and my dad didn't believe in girls going to college at all. He refused to pay for my brother to go, even, because he never went himself and he was always bitter about that. My brother got a full ride on an academic scholarship, so it turned out not to matter for him. But when I was 14, my dad insisted we go to see his lawyer to talk about our futures. My discussion consisted of the lawyer telling me that, as a female, college was a waste as I'd never graduate anyway. Girls only need to go to college to find a husband, so I'd get stars in my eyes after a year or two and drop out to get married, so it was a waste of money. And if by some miracle I did actually graduate and get a diploma, my degree would be worth nothing, because I was a woman and the only careers suitable for women were teacher, secretery, or nurse, and ONLY until I had a husband to support me. I ended up with a tuition and fees scholarship, so I just had to pay room, board, and books and I got enough cash scholarships to pay for my first whole year, then worked to pay my room and board the rest of the time, so that didn't stop me either. My mom said the reason she wanted to move was so that I wouldn't have to pay for room and board, but really, she wanted to be close to my brother, who went to the same college, and because she wanted to keep control of me. She didn't like the idea of me being on my own. I wasn't like her in character and she didn't like the way that I handled things and didn't trust me to make decisions because I might not make the same ones she did. She wanted me to live with her so she could still make the rules. When I told her she could move, but I was going to live in the dorms anyway, she got really angry and told everyone I "wouldn't let her move". Like I had any sort of say in where she lived! But she said there was no point in it if I wouldn't live there with her. Then when she'd visit us, she'd wait till I went to the bathroom and go through my room looking for my checkbook so she could see how I was spending my money, she'd listen to my messages on the answering machine, open my mail. I had to hide everything from her. I actually lost my checkbook for MONTHS after her first visit because when she interrogated me about how I was spending my money, I decided to hide it all, then couldn't remember where I hid it. I disconnected my answering machine when I walked in and caught her listening to my messages. I was already....21 I think, by that time?
Anyway, that's why I respect you so much for encouraging the independence. You're right...he needs to learn to be independent. Someday, you won't be there and he will need to do things himself. Better for him to learn it now rather than struggle because he never learned. I had to fight so hard for every bit of independence and our relationship never recovered fully. My mom wrote me a 14 page letter telling me how disappointing I was as a daughter and why hadn't I gotten my "rebellion phase" over with in high school...why did I wait until I was 19 to start being disobedient? She wrote a 9 page letter to one of my friends asking her to "fix" me and make me obedient again. My friend was so so angry with her. I was a straight A student and had a job to pay for what scholarships didn't cover...she didn't have to contribute a penny, but I was a disappointment to her. I had to break away and show her that she didn't have authority over me anymore and I don't think she ever forgave me for that...she tried to punish me until she died. And I certainly still have a lot of resentment about the way she treated me and that she couldn't accept me being an adult and doing things differently than her. She told me that was the worst thing anyone had ever said to her in her life...that I was different than she was. I know you've mentioned your mom before and that you don't get along....I completely understand. I'm sure we could talk for hours and hours about it.
I'm surprised your son's school hasn't given you any info on a plan. I think you're right about a lot of the students partying and breaking the rules. Has your son been a partier in high school? Or is it more the environment in which other students will be unsafe that worries you? I was never a partier...I was my brother's DD on my 21st birthday. But even I wouldn't have felt safe in the dorms right now...I was definitely a minority in my lack of drinking, pot, hookups, etc. College kids in general tend to feel invincible. They won't follow the rules. Especially if they are being told that there's no need for the rules because it's not a serious illness and doesn't affect their age group.
Yeah, I was a "good kid". Straight A student for the most part, really involved in activities. Speech and debate, Student Council, International club, Honor Society, Drama, Cheerleading, Music, plus I worked. I was spread so thin I was transparent, and I had a curfew of dark unless I was with my brother or at a school event, but then I had to be home within 10 minutes of the event ending, and you could see the school from our house, so once cars started leaving the parking lot, I had to get home or call for a ride. But I never got into any trouble and I hardly went out, so I don't know why my mom didn't trust me. She let my brother go out when she didn't let me, and I asked her why she had separate rules for us and she said it was because he was a boy and couldn't get into as much trouble as a girl. Translation: he can't get pregnant. Nevermind that it takes a boy to get a girl pregnant.Yeah, my mom has poor boundaries, too. She used to eavesdrop on my phone calls. It made me angry, because I never got into any trouble at all as a teen. I always returned home at reasonable times when I'd go out and I wasn't in any sort of academic trouble. She was just so nosy. When my son had his first IEP, we came back with a big Manila envelope with test scores/results and recommendations for his education. We left it out on the dining room table and she came over to visit. She started rifling through it and angrily asked what all of this meant. I blew up at her. She refused to back down about why we didn't tell her about what was going on; like she was entitled to be a part of any decision making for our son. One time my MIL came over to visit and my mom just gave her the silent treatment the entire time. I was so embarrassed and I apologized to my MIL for my mom's behavior. She once tried to apologize for all of her nonsense, but I felt like she was trying to get me to feel guilty for her apologizing, so that I would say "Don't worry about it" and she could go back to being a toxic person. It wasn't even a real apology--it was "I apologize if you felt that way." I hate that, because it shifts the blame on the person who is receiving the apology--like you chose to be offended by toxic behavior.
But my son is not a partier. He is pretty dorky. Even before the virus hit, most of his interactions with friends were online. What worries me is other kids doing what kids do and setting off an outbreak on campus. And, yeah, like you say, kids that age usually feel like bad things happen to other people, never to them, so I worry about them throwing caution to the wind.
I read this article today and thought of you, @epcotisbest.
https://www.nytimes.com/article/paper-wasps-yellowjackets.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage&contentCollection=AtHome&package_index=0
Yeah, I was a "good kid". Straight A student for the most part, really involved in activities. Speech and debate, Student Council, International club, Honor Society, Drama, Cheerleading, Music, plus I worked. I was spread so thin I was transparent, and I had a curfew of dark unless I was with my brother or at a school event, but then I had to be home within 10 minutes of the event ending, and you could see the school from our house, so once cars started leaving the parking lot, I had to get home or call for a ride. But I never got into any trouble and I hardly went out, so I don't know why my mom didn't trust me. She let my brother go out when she didn't let me, and I asked her why she had separate rules for us and she said it was because he was a boy and couldn't get into as much trouble as a girl. Translation: he can't get pregnant. Nevermind that it takes a boy to get a girl pregnant.
I used to be sad that my mom didn't live to meet her grandchildren, but now in some ways it's kind of a relief because she always said Autism wasn't real and was just an excuse for lazy parenting. I can't imagine the damage she would have inflicted on our son. And she didn't respect boundaries at all. I lived in a non-smoking apartment where I could get evicted if someone smoked. I told her she couldn't smoke in the apartment, and she told me SHE was the mom, so SHE would decide that and she lit up anyway. She announced once my senior year that she was taking my car because hers needed to be repaired. The car I bought and paid for with my own money, paid for the gas, upkeep, licensing, everything myself, and she just announced that I would have to walk to school because she was taking my car. I would have been happy to lend it if she had just ASKED instead of telling me. And she had a habit of disciplining other people's children in public without their permission. She spanked her friend's son when they came to visit and she didn't like his behavior. If she didn't think you were handling something properly, she'd do it herself, so she'd never have allowed me to make decisions on my own about my kids. And she would never apologize or admit she had made a mistake. It was always my own fault. She told me once that your kids have to think you're perfect or they won't respect you....you can't ever admit to making a mistake or they won't obey you. It turned out the opposite....I lost a lot of respect for her because she pretended to be perfect when she wasn't, and she couldn't take responsibility for her actions. I'd have had a lot more respect for her if she had been honest and fair. But you're right...the "I'm sorry that you took it that way" is one of my pet peeves, too. That's not an apology. Now you're apologizing for MY behavior instead of your own, like I'm the one who did something wrong.
On the upside for your son, if college is anything like it was when I went, the major partiers don't often go to class. So if your son mostly stays in his room on the computer outside of class, he's at least somewhat protected. He might not have much contact with those kids because they won't be in his room, and not in class a lot. Is he likely to eat in the cafeteria or is he going to do his own cooking like he does now? That would be the one place where it might get dicey if they don't have a plan in place for distancing, etc. Our cafeteria was a serve yourself thing, like a buffet line. Distancing wasn't too much of a problem because not everyone goes all at once, but you have to touch the serving utensils that others have used. What will he be studying? I studied music and we had specific classes we had to take each day so there was a set order you had to take them in. That meant that you had all your classes together....you saw the same people in every class each day, but I don't think most majors were like that. I had 13 hours of classes some days and I remember most of my non-music major friends had at most 2 classes in a day where I might have 8 or 9. It significantly decreases the number of students you have contact with, but increases the amount of time you spend with them in an enclosed space. I hope the school comes up with a plan and shares it with you soon!
Interesting read. Thank you for sharing. I found this odd:
“They seem like they’re trying to ruin our day,” said Jennifer Jandt, a zoologist at the University of Otago in New Zealand who has studied the species for years. “In actuality, they’re just foraging.”
Foraging, OK...still ruined my day, and yes as the article states, if you disturb their nest they will chase you down.
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