PhilharMagician
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Most people on these boards do not understand what it would be to make $26k per year. If they did, they certainly could afford planning annual vacations to WDW.
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Workers want pay boost
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Monorail_Orange
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Actually, the new standard is 28 hours per week MAX, average in a year. Anything more and TWDC restatuses that CM as Full-Time in compliance with the "Affordable Care Act"
BrittanyRose428
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That's what I'm saying, if the hours aren't guaranteed, why apply for that job if you actually need the money? I don't mean to sound cynical I'm just thinking of my own experiences. That's basically how my job is now, but it's okay for now because I have 1 bill and live at my parents house. When I move out and need to support myself I wouldn't even apply for part time jobs. I'd still have my part time job while I'm looking for a new one, but once I need to support myself I'd exclusively look for full time.
Maybe I'm thinking $26k isn't enough because I'm from Boston, and the cost of living is higher here, so my thought process about this is probably a bit skewed.
networkpro
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And some of us have earned less per hour than burger flippers in dangerous Government jobs. Some of us realized that economic necessity pushes you out of your comfort and fun zone to earn significantly more , enough to escape to WDW whenever we want to go.
WDW1974
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Being that the folks on this board have always skewed to the right I've gotta believe this will devolve into the typical defense of da man and corporate America, with the usual ignorant comments about no one forces anyone to work at WDW and why should Disney pay anyone (other than management) much more than $8 an hour?
This is a company that keeps announcing record profits. This is a company with employees living three and four to an old Best Western on US 192 to avoid sleeping in cars. This is a company that bull$hits the world that it still represents old man Disney's morals and ethics when it absolutely does not.
But let's all jump on the workers. The only things that matter is how well Wall Street and Big Business are doing. Screw the workers! Can you imagine that someone working for $8.45 an hour might like to make $9 or $10?
This is a company that keeps announcing record profits. This is a company with employees living three and four to an old Best Western on US 192 to avoid sleeping in cars. This is a company that bull$hits the world that it still represents old man Disney's morals and ethics when it absolutely does not.
But let's all jump on the workers. The only things that matter is how well Wall Street and Big Business are doing. Screw the workers! Can you imagine that someone working for $8.45 an hour might like to make $9 or $10?
dstrawn9889
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SJFPKT
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Just to put it in to perspective, giving a $1 an hour raise or increased benefit to 45000 workers would eat 1.2% in to the TWDC FY13 profits which rose by 9.8 over FY12.
No dog in this fight as I work for the G, which is doesn't make money unless they print some more, but someone needed to put numbers to this.
EDIT: That was figured at 45000 working 40 hours a week, so in reality it would probably eat less than 1% of profits.
No dog in this fight as I work for the G, which is doesn't make money unless they print some more, but someone needed to put numbers to this.
EDIT: That was figured at 45000 working 40 hours a week, so in reality it would probably eat less than 1% of profits.
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rct247
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Based on the comments, it sounds like many actually don't think CMs should get a raise. I am the opposite. Most of my friends are CMs and they are a mix of part and full time CMs, almost all make less that $9 an hour. The ones that are making more have either been there for a very long time, are in roles that pay more due to certain skills or hazards, or are in leadership roles like a trainer or coordinator. While I am not a fan of unions at all, I think the union was fighting for a 75 cent pay increase over the next 3 years. From what I heard, Disney was only going to do 25 cents.
When I was a CP in 2009, I was paid $7.22 an hour. By the end of 2010, I was making $7.70 an hour working part time. As a full timer in 2011, I was making $7.95 an hour. I made it to $8.21 an hour in 2012 and $8.50 and hour in 2013. My area coordinators/supervisors make $10 an hour. Now trust me, $8.50 is much better than $7.22, but for many CMs it does make it hard to live on.
When I was a CP in 2009, I was paid $7.22 an hour. By the end of 2010, I was making $7.70 an hour working part time. As a full timer in 2011, I was making $7.95 an hour. I made it to $8.21 an hour in 2012 and $8.50 and hour in 2013. My area coordinators/supervisors make $10 an hour. Now trust me, $8.50 is much better than $7.22, but for many CMs it does make it hard to live on.
CDavid
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Based on these numbers, even the union bargaining position is going to be meaningless if the federal minimum wage goes over $10/hour as proposed (and even that is still a pretty low wage, all things considered). And a 25-cent offer from Disney? That's insulting.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Opportunity for advancement should be part of the workplace... not 'I get raises for doing the same @%$% year after year'
Robin Of Loxley
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Another problem is the issue of greedlords in the Central Fla area charging ridiculous rents for housing...just because they can. A pretty low thing to do in an area where most workers are making service industry wages. You can easily run a 20+ unit apartment complex which charges $450 to $500 per month per unit...and live large...very large. Yet we all know Central Fla rents are nowhere near that ballpark.
These CM's aren't trying to get rich off of working for the Mouse. Nobody expects that from the theme park biz. But there is no excuse for someone (working) to be forced to live in their vehicle or a motel complex for shelter. It's an insult to them & our society. I totally support those hard working CM's being paid a living wage.
These CM's aren't trying to get rich off of working for the Mouse. Nobody expects that from the theme park biz. But there is no excuse for someone (working) to be forced to live in their vehicle or a motel complex for shelter. It's an insult to them & our society. I totally support those hard working CM's being paid a living wage.
tirian
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When most Guest-facing managers are salaried in the mid 30K range, we can only imagine how low line-level pay rates are.
flynnibus
Premium Member
and yet people still talk about moving to FL to work for the mouse...
Honestly, I don't understand why anyone would work there for such pathetic pay. "its all we have.." - THEN MOVE
You can't make any less money working anywhere else... so why on earth STAY in Orlando to make this kind of pathetic money?
Honestly, I don't understand why anyone would work there for such pathetic pay. "its all we have.." - THEN MOVE
You can't make any less money working anywhere else... so why on earth STAY in Orlando to make this kind of pathetic money?
bhg469
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I make a decent salary and I have 2 retirement plans and I STILL have no idea how I'm ever going to retire. I feel awful that inflation has made it impossible for average wages to not be enough. I think my parents were the last generation to have little worry. There is a lot of greed here. Companies have a desire to shatter profit records and when they do, the share holders demand this all the time. Its unrealistic but its human nature. I wish the CMs got what they needed but I don't see it happening because disney cares less now about their employees than they ever have.
roj2323
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Part time cast are not "guaranteed" 24 hours. Actually As part time cast they don't have to give you any hours if thy don't need to. Read your paperwork. I signed mine less than a week ago and it's fairly clearly written.
71jason
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Once you're in Orlando making no money, it becomes that much harder to leave again. Moving costs, first/last months rent, a month's savings until your first new paycheck (assuming you even have a job lined up) ... it's a vicious cycle. Although plenty of people do leave, this town is very transient--which goes back to my point of less than great staff at WDW, because of high turnover rates.
ETA: Look, I'm a right-winger. But this whole Ayn Rand objectivist hero stuff doesn't fly in the real world. There are too many obstacles--some government-created, some corporate-created, some just human psychology.