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Wookies, & Rebels, & Droids... OH WHY?! The Anti-SWL in Disneyland Thread

lazyboy97o

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I'd find it hilarious if it wasn't DL they were mucking up. You can watch any travel vlog about the Potter lands and instantly see (and hear) how inviting, joyous and fun those worlds look. They look welcoming! They look pleasant! You can recognize everything and hear wonderful background music! And then Disney decides "let's do that--but make it unpleasant & dreary and include nearly nothing recognizable."
The galaxy of Star Wars is unpleasant and dreary.

There’s no one location that covers all of the Star Wars franchise. The best they could do is Tattooine but that’s a boring location that’s not desirable to visit. It’s also an outer rim wasteland. Offering an original planet that captures the feeling of Star Wars was the best idea they had for Galaxy’s Edge. The problem is they didn’t make the land feel like Star Wars.
Star Wars really isn’t about places, intimate human-scale places. It has massive worlds that make for the epic scale of the galaxy, but beyond that scale it is really all about the characters.
 

flynnibus

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to give guests something familiar instead of some "outer rim wasteland" that guests have no history with.
Yet they did that in every Star Wars movie and were successful in doing so. Every movie introduces new worlds we’ve not seen before and expand the universe.

It’s not like this is some curveball here.
 

flynnibus

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The locales of Star Wars, on the other hand, aren't pleasant, guest-friendly places like Hogwarts or Diagon Alley. The fun of Star Wars is mainly in the action, set against a vast, many-flavored, galaxy-spanning backdrop. Disney should have concentrated on creating several fun, colorful, action-packed rides that captured the feel of SW against recognizable backdrops. Then design the land as a celebration of the franchise. Fill it with character meet-ups. Make it more like the Star Wars celebrations at WDW. Fun. Packed with affordable merchandise all fans would love to buy. That's what guests want from SW at Disneyland. NO ONE CARES about breaking the "immersion" by mixing characters from different films within the land. They just want to meet Han Solo, Chewie and Darth. But, no Disney decided to go all smarty-pants and offer up exactly the opposite of what the GP really wants.
So you wanted New Fantasyland:Star Wars Edition?
They did what you described... it was called Star Wars Weekends. And we got abominations like the Star Wars hoopla where characters danced to things like thriller or the Harlem shake.
 

Rich T

Well-Known Member
So you wanted New Fantasyland:Star Wars Edition?
They did what you described... it was called Star Wars Weekends. And we got abominations like the Star Wars hoopla where characters danced to things like thriller or the Harlem shake.
I'd rather have Star Wars Hoopla than Galaxy's Edge. Star Wars is a fun (at its best), silly space opera. When you take it too seriously, it becomes ridiculous. Here's what I'd like: Star Tours on a grander scale--Tomorrowland with more grit and rust (not the unintentional Rocket Rods track type), but lots of movement, creatures everywhere and a bunch of good rides. Upbeat. Celebratory. Save the conflict and darkness for the rides--that's where all that belongs. A successful theme park environment should be welcoming--a place people actually want to hang around in.

This is my favorite SW poster ever, from the 1978 re-release. It's perfect.oldtimeyswposter.jpg
 
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flynnibus

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Star Wars weekends got to epitomize just taking anything from Star Wars films... and dropping it onto anything Disney and saying 'exclusive!'. It did nothing original to the Star Wars content itself.. it focused purely on taking something from SW and putting it in the parks.

So once you got over the M&G of the characters... or seeing the props... you had nothing left but to create mash-ups. That's the weakness of not creating new content or space to work in.

That's where GE will excel vs the past efforts. You can expand, change, or add within the GE 'space' and not need to contradict other stuff.
 

Rich T

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I really, really can't stand the new GE TV spots, where I guess the director told the actors to "act like you've just found God." Maybe they're just ready to faint because they got on the Falcon without any wait in line.
 

GingerGirl3

Active Member
I don’t understand leaving kids out of the equation. If you own the franchise and want to keep it going you need to hook kids the way the originals did. There’s a reason my brother had a SW birthday party and the toys but my kids have zero interest in any of it. My kids loved doing the Jedi Training...now it’s gone. My son loved the M&G and Vader was so much fun. My daughter is all about princesses and has no interest in anything dark and refused to meet him and was nervous about the Stormtroopers roaming around on the way to the Jedi Training. They got so into fighting and defeating the bad guys. There’s nothing like that in GE which makes no sense. Sure in Jedi Training they were fighting their “fears” and not the real bad guys...but you could still walk over and meet them. No one complained that you couldn’t meet Vader ‘cause he was dead. GE seems so soulless and there’s nothing there for families. Even if you wanted to spend ridiculous amounts of money on a lightsaber a family of 4 cannot even do it together. At Universal we bought the expensive wand but the kids could share it and had fun together. I don’t get the cantina not having fun kid drinks and appetizers. I don’t understand how they missed the mark so badly. My modern kids still love HM and PotC because they are fun and imaginative but there’s nothing that impresses about GE or that sounds like it’s going to have any staying power. There’s no way their kids will be seeing this version of GE unlike the classics rides that have lasted.
 

egg

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You all should’ve claimed you’re boycotting Disneyland because of SWL, and since crowds are lower than usual, you’d be able to claim the boycott is working! Woohoo!

Worked for the Kaepernick haters...
 

magicallactose

Well-Known Member
I don’t understand leaving kids out of the equation. If you own the franchise and want to keep it going you need to hook kids the way the originals did. There’s a reason my brother had a SW birthday party and the toys but my kids have zero interest in any of it. My kids loved doing the Jedi Training...now it’s gone. My son loved the M&G and Vader was so much fun. My daughter is all about princesses and has no interest in anything dark and refused to meet him and was nervous about the Stormtroopers roaming around on the way to the Jedi Training. They got so into fighting and defeating the bad guys. There’s nothing like that in GE which makes no sense. Sure in Jedi Training they were fighting their “fears” and not the real bad guys...but you could still walk over and meet them. No one complained that you couldn’t meet Vader ‘cause he was dead. GE seems so soulless and there’s nothing there for families. Even if you wanted to spend ridiculous amounts of money on a lightsaber a family of 4 cannot even do it together. At Universal we bought the expensive wand but the kids could share it and had fun together. I don’t get the cantina not having fun kid drinks and appetizers. I don’t understand how they missed the mark so badly. My modern kids still love HM and PotC because they are fun and imaginative but there’s nothing that impresses about GE or that sounds like it’s going to have any staying power. There’s no way their kids will be seeing this version of GE unlike the classics rides that have lasted.
Agreed! I like how in Islands of Adventure, you can experience the fun theatrical 'show' of seeing someone have a wand chosen for them at Ollivander's, but you don't even need to buy anything. The great thing about that little 'show' is that it really does make guests feel they are getting a special experience and it's great for business because it makes all the spectators really want to buy a wand too. I'm surprised they didn't do something similar with the light sabre shop here. Why not have a little training 'show' with special effects that one kid gets to experience but everyone can watch?
 

Mac Tonight

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I wonder how much of this is cause of my predetermined bias, but I feel like many of the concerns raised on the forums by everyone over the last few years have come to fruition. We literally called it.

"Disney's Wizarding World not, this is."- Yoda
Star Wars Land is quickly shaping up to be the theme park equivalent of Solo: A Star Wars Story. Everyone is now looking to RotR (or Rise of Skywalker) to right the ship(s).
 
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