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Rumor Wonders of Life getting an attraction soon?

Kman101

Well-Known Member
Agree completely. We are paying Waldorf Astoria rates (sometimes more for the hotels...oddly), so expecting WA service isn't exactly out of bounds for an expected service level. For some reason, people tend to accept Holiday Inn quality, simply because its wrapped in Disney and built for families.

Being picky should be accepted. I don't go to Six Flags and pick on the theming, ride down time, lights being out and quality issues, simply because I can get the whole family season passes for the same price as two one tickets for WDW parks. There is a cost to quality ration that is quickly spinning out of whack at WDW and its finding itself fighting Universal Studios where that equation is currently going in a steady march the other way. At some point, the cost to quality ration is going to force people to re-evaluate trips.

I don't think we are there yet, but TDO seems completely invested in finding the point where people start walking away...
I think many people have walked away (or claimed to) but they've had people basically ready and willing to fill that void so I don't think it's hit them too hard yet. I do see little things that make me think they've been hit a tiny tiny bit, but not to the point most want to see.

I think they're teetering right now and I'm not even sure if they realize it.

It may sound silly but having followed some vloggers/bloggers and reading various trip reports here and elsewhere over the years and my own experience just talking to people, there's a lot more "griping" so to speak about the prices (and most try to awkwardly laugh it off and say "well it's Disney"; no, stop making excuses for them). Could you imagine the day where it's $10 for a soda? Personally I'm really shocked people are willingly paying $25 for parking (I know if you don't have a pass that includes parking you *have* to pay to park but people could start complaining about it in droves).

Imagine if Twitter got together for the day to bombard Disney about something. They'd listen. But too many vloggers and lifestylers want to keep their night job and I get it. I appreciate the coverage. But instead of getting a cupcake trending, how about getting poor service trending?
 

Corgi

Active Member
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If people think the GotG show is going to be in the WoL pavilion, they’re dead wrong. That show is WAY to loud to be played indoors, especially in a dome-shaped area.
 

Rich Brownn

Well-Known Member
Agree completely. We are paying Waldorf Astoria rates (sometimes more for the hotels...oddly), so expecting WA service isn't exactly out of bounds for an expected service level. For some reason, people tend to accept Holiday Inn quality, simply because its wrapped in Disney and built for families.

Being picky should be accepted. I don't go to Six Flags and pick on the theming, ride down time, lights being out and quality issues, simply because I can get the whole family season passes for the same price as two one tickets for WDW parks. There is a cost to quality ration that is quickly spinning out of whack at WDW and its finding itself fighting Universal Studios where that equation is currently going in a steady march the other way. At some point, the cost to quality ration is going to force people to re-evaluate trips.

I don't think we are there yet, but TDO seems completely invested in finding the point where people start walking away...
A friend of mine who used to be an executive at WDW said in the old days pricing was the 10% rule - prices were ok if 10% or less turned away either at parking or at the ticket booths.
 

Lensman

Premium Member
A friend of mine who used to be an executive at WDW said in the old days pricing was the 10% rule - prices were ok if 10% or less turned away either at parking or at the ticket booths.
I believe you, but that still sounds like a huge number! I'm shocked!
 

Rich Brownn

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I believe you, but that still sounds like a huge number! I'm shocked!
Well, in those days the real money was made once inside the park. he said the average guest spent 2-3 times as much as they did on admission on food and merchandise. After the Bass Bros. came in and jacked up the ticket prices, what the guests spent as a percentage went way down. (My friend was a merchandise ex. Orders came down to generic the merchandise since people were buying less in order to spread the costs around).
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Aside from two coffee mugs (one from Starbucks) and a gift for the kids, we bought nothing. So different than days past when merchandise was unique and I would easily drop $100. They certainly haven't learned anything yet.
Sure, they did that, but, you aren't everybody. The unique stuff was neat to look at, but, if sales had been strong, they would still be offering it. The generic stuff was what they were primarily selling and that is what they went to. I know some people did buy the other stuff, you are a case in point, but, I never understood the Theme Park/Unique item combination.

When DL first opened the stores on Main Street sold real items. Everything from Grand Pianos to Bras. Although someone might buy a bra on impulse, I can't imagine that they made a trip to a Theme park to get one and certainly wouldn't have purchased a Grand Piano on impulse and then carried it out to their car and took it home. Walt had convinced merchants to stock the stores with unique stuff for the purpose of atmosphere. Before to long, the merchants were going broke and one at a time they left because they simply couldn't sell enough to pay the bills. But, it sure did look nice. One thing you can be sure of is that if something is selling well, they will continue to sell it for as long as they can. They won't drop anything that is generating sales.
 

Rich Brownn

Well-Known Member
Sure, they did that, but, you aren't everybody. The unique stuff was neat to look at, but, if sales had been strong, they would still be offering it. The generic stuff was what they were primarily selling and that is what they went to. I know some people did buy the other stuff, you are a case in point, but, I never understood the Theme Park/Unique item combination.

When DL first opened the stores on Main Street sold real items. Everything from Grand Pianos to Bras. Although someone might buy a bra on impulse, I can't imagine that they made a trip to a Theme park to get one and certainly wouldn't have purchased a Grand Piano on impulse and then carried it out to their car and took it home. Walt had convinced merchants to stock the stores with unique stuff for the purpose of atmosphere. Before to long, the merchants were going broke and one at a time they left because they simply couldn't sell enough to pay the bills. But, it sure did look nice. One thing you can be sure of is that if something is selling well, they will continue to sell it for as long as they can. They won't drop anything that is generating sales.
Actually the unique stuff was selling. But as disposable income was spent more at the front gate, less and less of it was. So more and more of the same stuff showed up in each store. And as more and more of the stuff became the same, less and less of it sold, so prices increased. And now its a never-ending cycle. Hopefully GE will break that (Worked for Potter at Universal, which now offers different stuff depending on the store).
 

HauntedPirate

Premium Member
Actually the unique stuff was selling. But as disposable income was spent more at the front gate, less and less of it was. So more and more of the same stuff showed up in each store. And as more and more of the stuff became the same, less and less of it sold, so prices increased. And now its a never-ending cycle. Hopefully GE will break that (Worked for Potter at Universal, which now offers different stuff depending on the store).
Please please PLEASE let some of the unique items return! I'm so sick of seeing the same overpriced cr... merchandise in every store, in every park. But with Chappie in charge, I fear the chances of that happening are slim to none, and slim is heading towards the door.
 

Hatbox Ghostbuster

Well-Known Member
You seem to hold this real disdain in your heart of Bob Chapek even though he has only been CEO a couple of months if not mistaken.
Bob Chapek became Chairman of Parks and Resorts in 2015. When WDI absorbed DCP (Disney Consumer Products), his title changed to that of Chairman of Parks, Experiences, and Consumer Products. That change occured in March of 2018. Prior to his 2015 appointment to Chairman of Parks job, he ran Consumer Products.

All that to say, the man is owed a LOT of disdain and its years in the running.
 
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Goofyernmost

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Actually the unique stuff was selling. But as disposable income was spent more at the front gate, less and less of it was. So more and more of the same stuff showed up in each store. And as more and more of the stuff became the same, less and less of it sold, so prices increased. And now its a never-ending cycle. Hopefully GE will break that (Worked for Potter at Universal, which now offers different stuff depending on the store).
There is another rule in Retail and the is rate of turnover. If something doesn't sell quickly and in quantities it is just taking up valuable space where something that will sell can occupy. Everyone must remember that the minute one steps into the stores they have left the theme park and have entered a retail establishment. They exist to make money. If they want to make a museum then they should stock a place or two with unique items and not include those places in the profit/loss part of the scenario. You can't take a Dumbo Ride vehicle home with you when you leave the park because that is part of the show and not for sale. However, everything in the shops is for sale and that is the only reason for their existence. Walt and followers had outside retailers own the merchandise and the responsibility to make a profit. They needed that to pay Walt rent for the space. That is all Disney wanted at that point. They took that over themselves when the vendors left and eventually decided that they didn't want to lose money so a few could wax nostalgic. Thus they no longer try to sell them. Fantasy is the parks themselves, the stores are economic realities.
 

sgtmgd

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This is going to be an all new Desert Party with all 4 park nighttime shows being simulcast on giant screens in 3D. The cost will be tiered depending on if want to watch 1, 2,3 or all 4 shows.
 

brb1006

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Seeing the sketch of Left Brain and Buzzy actually makes me wish the other characters were animated in the same style as the preshow and General Knowledge in the actual show instead of live-action. I really love the stylized look of him in that sketch.


At least the Water Engine post-show at World Of Motion was all hand drawn animated.
 

mikejs78

Premium Member
So we have two data points (speculative, of course):

1. Much of CC is gone, so it's extremely unlikely to ever reopen it again.
2. They were testing the Buzzy AA and it was in good shape.

So maybe they are thinking about the possibility of incorporating Buzzy somehow into the new WoL, even if just as a tribute, either in a completely new attraction, or just out in the main WoL area..?
 
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