Rumor Wonders of Life getting an attraction soon?

djkidkaz

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I will say I do not think this is a re-imagining of the pavilion or an attempt at putting in a new ride. Generally cosmetic upgrades would happen at the end of a project, not the beginning. I’m still voting that this either reopens for food and wine as a freshened up festival center or is a temporary Mouse Gear during the redesign of Epcot.
 

Goofyernmost

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I still cannot comprehend why, in a park with a shortage of bona fide attractions, they would shutter without replacement, even those which have seen better days. WoL's past attractions were dated, but at least they gave guests something else to do (several somethings, in fact).
Someone must have decided that the cost of operation was not justified based on the demand. They were better off just boarding it up and maintaining it, minimally, then to keep it open. If now they have found something that they think they can put in there and actually create a draw all I can do is keep my fingers crossed that they are right.

We have to take into consideration that of all the pavilions the attractions inside were extremely CM intensive. A crew for Body Wars, a crew for Cranium Command, crews for all the little side shows and even to be there to help out those using the do it yourself stuff. Without enough people beating the doors down they actually increased their overall profit by closing it. The building was paid for years ago and depreciation was already applied.
 

Goofyernmost

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IIRC by 2006 staffing levels were at a minimum. Not intensive at all.
Comparatively, with admissions considered, I respectfully disagree with you. If it was costing more then then they felt it was generating, it will be penciled out. And it was! No matter what the new staffing levels were. That's just part of it.
 

trainplane3

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Yeah, walls are up. Roof refurb seems to be getting serious now
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
For the IP mandate going on you'd think it'd be no brainers to utilize WALL-E, Inside Out and Big Hero 6 in Epcot ...

Disney has more good IPs than new attractions that can utilize them. Every new ride/overhaul right now has an IP attached to it. Besides what you mention there is Moana and Brave and more Indy and Doctor Strange and Wreck It Ralph and a new home for Stitch and Nightmare Before Christmas and Aladdin (other than a cheap spinner) and the Jungle Book. Not to mention some could be land-ified into several attractions (Monstropolis).

But they all should take a back seat to a new Wrinkle in Time Land!!!
 

montyz81

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For the IP mandate going on you'd think it'd be no brainers to utilize WALL-E, Inside Out and Big Hero 6 in Epcot ...
Big Hero 6 is a perfect fit for Wonders. It would also stay true to the Epcot Center Concept/Theme. Dare I say this, but WALL-E could be a good IP to run in SSE (please don't shun me from WDWMagic for saying that). I think there could be a tasteful way to include WALL-E in SSE using the current animatronics, storyline with a 180 top recreation of the AXIOM.
 

rocketraccoon

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If something were to go into Wonders, would the central area still exist? If they put anything large in there I feel like they'd end up just converting it to queue space, sadly.
 

Castle Cake Apologist

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IIRC by 2006 staffing levels were at a minimum. Not intensive at all.
Comparatively, with admissions considered, I respectfully disagree with you. If it was costing more then then they felt it was generating, it will be penciled out. And it was! No matter what the new staffing levels were. That's just part of it.

It's true. Within a couple years of Metlife pulling out in 2001, Disney reduced staffing to the bare minimum required to operate the attractions. Maintenance took a nosedive too, especially once the pavilion went seasonal in 2004.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
It's true. Within a couple years of Metlife pulling out in 2001, Disney reduced staffing to the bare minimum required to operate the attractions. Maintenance took a nosedive too, especially once the pavilion went seasonal in 2004.
I think you are agreeing that Disney reduced staffing. If so, I believe it 100%. They reduced it because of a diminished popularity of the attraction previous to the staffing cut, or later because of the decreased staffing or of a lack of interest in the topic. It's hard to listen to lectures on health with a Mickey Bar in one hand and a Turkey Leg in the other. However, even at reduced staffing it was still costing more then they could justify based on attendance. So it became a warehouse first and then a spot for the Drink and Vomit spectaculars that Disney became so enamored with.
 

Castle Cake Apologist

Well-Known Member
I think you are agreeing that Disney reduced staffing. If so, I believe it 100%. They reduced it because of a diminished popularity of the attraction previous to the staffing cut, or later because of the decreased staffing or of a lack of interest in the topic. It's hard to listen to lectures on health with a Mickey Bar in one hand and a Turkey Leg in the other. However, even at reduced staffing it was still costing more then they could justify based on attendance. So it became a warehouse first and then a spot for the Drink and Vomit spectaculars that Disney became so enamored with.

For sure. Wonders was a ghost town on a good day toward the end. The eventual opening of Test Track didn't help matters, giving Epcot a much better and more popular thrill ride than Body Wars. Though, the attraction had always struggled to get big crowds once Star Tours opened, which for some reason didn't make people feel nauseated like BW did.

Though, I've lost track of the discussion now. I thought you had said labor was intensive, Martin said staffing was bare bones, you disagreed, and I agreed that the staffing was minimal, and now you agree with me? I'm confused. 🤔
 

matt2394

Active Member
For the IP mandate going on you'd think it'd be no brainers to utilize WALL-E, Inside Out and Big Hero 6 in Epcot ...

It's so simple. Just make a Horizons-esque ride based on the sequence when WALL-E goes up into space and passes the various landscapes; culminating in the "Define Dancing" sequence. Boom, you got a E-Ticket right there.

But no, we're going to get Rocket Racoon's hilarious quips about how EPCOT is boring onboard the MCU Strobe Light Screenz Brand Acquisition Ludicrous Speed Super Wacky Rollercoaster 9000.
 

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