Disney Irish
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Black Widow had $80.3M day and date opening, which is bigger than the $80M day and date opening for Freddy.
So nothing against Freddy, but its not the biggest day and date opening.
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Wish (Walt Disney Animation - November 2023)
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So nothing against Freddy, but its not the biggest day and date opening.
Not quite. Double check your fact there as Black Widow was a paid additional VOD premier access, not included with membership.
Five Nights at Freddy's was same day included with it's streaming service. All the more impressive.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Black Widow was still considered a "day and date" release, even if it was for "extra cost" via Premier Access. So your weird qualifier aside, BW still had a larger opening at the box office.
This was all noted here -
"Freddy’s earns the #2 day-and-date opening, coming only -3% behind 2021’s Black Widow (which debuted in theaters and on Disney+) with $80.3M."
Weekend Box Office: FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY’S More Than Doubles Record for Top Halloween Weekend All Time - Boxoffice
#1 = Five Nights at Freddy’s Hitting theaters right before Halloween, Universal’s horror video game adaptation exceeded all expectations with an $78.0M opening, despite a day-and-date release strategy that had it debuting simultaneously in cinemas and streaming on Peacock. Here are a few...
www.boxofficepro.com
Again this is not to take away from Freddy, but its #2 in the opening for day-and-date releases.
Not a weird qualifier. A reasonable person sees the difference between included on a streaming platform and paying for on demand at home. You are the only one who ever used the day and date release phrase. So don't use quotes like I did while finding an article to look for your own misquote.
This is why I said same day on a streaming platform originally when you quoted me. Not same day available at home. Against if one is being reasonable, they don't have to call it a weird qualifier. This movie made 80 million when many could have(and did)watch it at no cost at home.
Glad you brought it up though. It makes this 80 million all the more impressive.
This is why I said same day on a streaming platform originally when you quoted me. Not same day available at home. Against if one is being reasonable, they don't have to call it a weird qualifier. This movie made 80 million when many could have(and did)watch it at no cost at home.
Glad you brought it up though. It makes this 80 million all the more impressive.
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Disney Irish
Premium Member
Day-and-date is a term that is used very commonly in the industry for simultaneous releasing in theaters and on streaming or digital whether for extra cost or not, and has been used here on this site before when discussing the same. So no I'm not the only one even if you haven't see it before.
If the industry is saying that Freddy is #2, well then you disagree with them not me. I'm just repeating what the industry says, and quoted the commonly used industry site where it says the same.
I understand the term. I have seen it before. I did not use it. You quoted a site that used the qualifier the context semantic you brought in. I get what they meant. While you quoted me, you likely should have understood the context everyone is speaking of and how being included on a streaming service and still making 80 million vs an extra fee to purchase through a platform and pulling 80.3 million are two different situations.
As I said, the Black Widow factoid just made this all the more impressive. Many saw it included at home, and it still made close to Black Widow's opening weekend that no one got included.
You do see the difference right?
I know what’s it’s called… and I expected it to have a big drop off… horror movies drop off usually mid to upper 60… not close to 80%… that’s about as large a drop off I have seen
Only 4 movies have had a higher October opening. This and the fact people could watch it with free trial or included at home. That is why you rarely if ever have seen it.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
If you understand the term, even if you don't use it, then you understand how its used and that doesn't mean "only for free at home counts". It means all same day releases in both theaters and on any streaming platform or digital or VOD or whatever whether there is a cost or not.
So what you're disagreeing with is the industry, not me.
Also I've already said this is not to take away anything from Freddy's performance at the box office. There is nothing wrong with being #2 in this context its still really good.
I never said anything about the term
Again, my point was simple, no other movie has done what this one did.
Do you see the difference?
Disney Irish
Premium Member
We'll just agree to disagree here.
I get all that… I was just responding to your comment how great the movie was doing this weekend still… I don’t see it that way with the huge drop off and there is also not much competition…. This was one of the worst weekends of the year for theaters… it was originally projected to decline by 69%… but it ended up decreasing 10% more… if this was a Disney movie you would be screaming failure even with the day and date
I never said it was doing amazing for its second weekend. You responded to me saying people who have seen it, audience score generally say it's good.(my post was responding to RT and referencing audience score) Considering it can be viewed with a free trial or membership at home, and breaking into top five October openings of all time and being a post Halloween weekend horror movie makes sense.
Fun fact: this is probably the first time a Jim Henson effect based film has been number one for two weeks in a row in decades.
As for the screaming Disney Failure. If HM re.ake would have made 200 it's opening weekend and second weekend pulled in 40 million and trickled in millions from there. It would have been a front loaded success.
ROI is what matters. Five nights made three times it's budget in it's opening weekend domestically alone. Disney's movies make too little for what they cost.(speaking if no competition. HM remake had little by the time it came out and a three day weekend.
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it is a divisive movie… fans of the game like it… with being able to recognize their favorite YouTubers and Easter Eggs or whatever… people who have not played the games feels it is a poor horror movie… I have seen it… I agree with critics, but I never played the game
Never played the game, son has read the books, never played the games. We saw it and enjoyed it, but the RT still takes the average audience score. And its hung above average.
The divisive thing could be said about many films. Barbie had so much hate. Elemental many found boring. It's not a mass hated movie. If anything it's either loved or there as an
other PG13 Blumhouse flick. A massive hit one.
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I guess I am sheltered by some of it… the only hate I have seen on Barbie is certain YouTubers who I don’t put much stock into as they have a political agenda… I never heard any hate on Elemental… the worst I heard was not top tier Pixar , but still decent
But your right anybody can like what they like… at the end of the day it’s all just opinions… all films are subjective…
Kid you not, at the start of Barbie's credits at the theater I was at, a woman stood up and turned to friends, and some strangers including at us behind her looking around stating loudly "I hated it, I hated it, it was awful." Wife and I have joked about it since as we don't understand the need for someone to let everyone else in the theater know what they thought as people were getting up to leave or chilling with the credits.
Phroobar
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Okay. Domestic then. FNAF made $89m over it's five day holiday with a budget of $25m. That is three & half times it's budget. Wish has a budget of $200m. That means to equal the success of FNAF it would need about $750m in five days of opening. It is only projected to do $50m.
That is bizarre
Tha Realest
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What are you going to say in two weeks when Marvels opens substantially smaller AND has a drop in the 60-70% range?