Okay. But to be honest, Wish is sort of like a 2D/3D hybrid to me. And I guess calling Jennifer Lee a traitor of hand drawn animation is it bit over the top. You should’ve seen me at DVDizzy.com. I was so obsessed of Disney making another hand drawn feature film, but I toned it down now. I just hope the limitations is temporarily. Well, maybe a long temporarily.
But not making it clear why Magnifico is the villain and thus that Asha isn't just an immature ditz seems to have really tainted how those less in the know are looking at the story, and that might be a problem.
With hand drawn you can only go so detailed with the world as it’s mostly background for the characters. But with CG you can get as detail as you want as it’s just another pixel. It’s another tool in the artists toolbox.
But detail isn't everything. Disney has successfully created magical worlds using hand-drawn animation many, many times. I see nothing in the Wish trailer that makes me think the film needed to be CGI (but I admit to having felt this way about all of Disney's computer-animated feature films).
I agree detail isn't everything, so again it comes back to the discretion of the executive/creatives in-charge of the animation to determine what is needed for the particular story being told. For a story where the world is part of the story I would think CG would be chosen to give more detail to the world itself. Whereas when its a character driven story and the world itself is not part of the story, then you don't need that same detail and hand drawn animation can be used.
Detailed world-building was very much what Disney did back in the hand-drawn days too. I realise that CGI offers a different sort of detail, but I personally don’t think it’s necessary.
As an example I don't think they could have done Zootopia in hand drawn animation. Its far too detailed of a world to have been done as hand drawn, it would have lost a lot of the real world aesthetic they were going for.
Don't listen to them! They're just idiots!Looking beyond the Disney-fan forums at viewer comments regarding the Wish trailer, I don't think it's promising that the main gist of the less-enthusiastic comments are 1) "The king has a good point, is this going to play like Bruce Almighty where Asha has to learn a lesson?" 2) "Looks like a Disney Junior show / direct-to-DVD mockbuster of a real Disney movie", and a few 3) "Isn't this just the plot of Wicked?"
Personally, knowing more than them about the actual storyline it reminds me of various "Spielbergian" sci-fi/fantasy movies of the 1980s, like Solarbabies or Batteries Not Included.
I'm surprised you're very hopeful for hand drawn animation to come back on Disney.
This is where I am. The trailer doesn't look bad, just a bit meh and if I wasn't a Disney fan I don't think it would spark much interest from me. Then again, I have felt that way about a lot of trailers for Disney movies that I ended up enjoying a lot and that ended up becoming big hits.
Since the first trailer, I've also felt the animation also just looked a little off to me for reasons I can't quite put my finger on. At least from what we've seen, the 'storybook' aesthetic doesn't seem to work for me and it just comes across as somewhere hovering between CGI and traditional animation without being quite as impressive as the best examples of either. Again, though, I'm happy to give it a shot.
Why, I think Disney is fully capable of putting out another hand drawn animated feature. The only question is if they can find the right story that can benefit from hand drawn animation over CG.I'm surprised you're very hopeful for hand drawn animation to come back on Disney.
Amazing! And I thought you're more of a realistic type of person.
You can be hopeful for things while still being realistic, they are not mutually exclusive.
Did they even keep all those slanty desks?
IIRC they had to outsource all the 2D stuff that appeared in Mary Poppins Returns and Disenchanted so I seriously doubt it. Perhaps some 2D fans just think animators can just switch between media and don't recognize that 3D requires a different skill set.
You're not the only person I've seen make this comment, saying they liked the feel of the teaser more. I think that had its own issue in getting people excited by being vague about the premise. But while the full-length trailer does give a clearer view of the storyline, it also makes it come off like a straight Wicked knockoff and/or a PureFlix version of a Shrek movie that plays all the cliches straight and tones down the jokes (no poop/fart jokes, but chickens and eggs can serve a similar function, right?). Or, like the kind of Disney revival knockoff movies we got a lot of in the 1990s (The Swan Princess comes to mind) that just cut and pasted as many familiar tropes from the Disney films as they could without an individual artistic vision and called it a day.
As I noted earlier, the filmmakers seem intent on people not reading socio-political metaphors into this movie, but The Discourse is going to be so interesting when it comes out, I'm sure. I'm not excited for this film but it's kind of fascinating to look at what people are already reading into it.
No Keynesian economics v. Modern Monetary Theory.
