CinematicFusion
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Moana 2 should be a hit, first was a great film.
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Wish (Walt Disney Animation - November 2023)
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What a lot of folks-on-the-street don't realize about streaming, and what the big company men would rather they not know, is that "catalog" titles keep the lights on far more than most original content. It's why Max spent so much to get the rights to Friends from Netflix, ditto with Peacock and The Office. South Park has been a huge boon for Max, and The Simpsons has been the same for Disney+ -- not neccesarily new episodes, but the vintage/"good years" ones. Right now the first and fourth Shrek movies are the most popular animated movies on any streaming service (Netflix currently holds the rights). Older movies and shows are also the bread-and-butter of ad-supported streamers like Tubi and Pluto TV. WB Discovery tried making a big deal of some of the more recent DC movies being licensed out to Tubi a few months back, but the banner advertising Black Adam lasted maybe two weeks before Tubi moved back to reminding people that The Mask was back in their rotation!
CinematicFusion
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I agree. Netflix acquiring the streaming rights for “Suits” was huge. The show’s resurgence has made it one of the most streamed series and Netflix bought it on the cheap. For instance, in just one week, “Suits” was streamed for over 3.7 billion minutes, setting a new record for the most-viewed acquired series.
Yep yep yep. It's fascinating how streaming won't provide second winds to failed new movies and shows (Encanto is the only film that managed that, off the top of my head) but can turn old, even very old, success stories into fresh viral topics of conversation (hello, Columbo!).
On the one hand it's assumed families who have D+ subscriptions are waiting for streaming to see their newer theatrical films, and that's why Wish cratered theatrically, and yet...once it was available, it had a few weeks of charting views, and nothing else happened. The merchandise didn't start to move, the songs didn't go viral (not for the right reasons), etc. Nobody talks about it any more than they would have a movie that went straight to D+ (who even remembers the Pinocchio or Peter Pan remakes, or Disenchanted, now?). What did Encanto have that Wish didn't that allowed it to beat the odds?
CinematicFusion
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Encanto had Positive Word of Mouth and Social Media Buzz.
My kids started singing all the songs and all of a sudden it’s all the kids at school talked about.
Tha Realest
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It was supposed to find a bigger audience once on D+
MarvelCharacterNerd
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Visiting ShopDisney to make a comparison regarding the Wish merch compared to the Inside Out 2 merch...there is nothing left for sale representing Wish aside from the just released back-to-school supplies. Either those discounts really worked, or Disney has sent the remaining stock out to be remaindered at outlet stores.
Dranth
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Encanto had better music, better characters, a better setting and a better story.
All that being said, the Wish is terrible narrative is overblown.
Phroobar
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Ross and TJ Max have lots of Wish stuff. However, Lightyear is still clogging the shelves at Target & Walmart.
Oh, Target and Walmart have to deal with that and unsold Wish merch too. I worked at Kmart in the late '90s and there was still some Hunchback of Notre Dame merch on clearance there a year and a half after release. (Though I totally see why that didn't move, even though the movie did okay at the box office.)
MarvelCharacterNerd
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Main Street at DL still had the Wish sale store as of this past weekend.
Giving it some thought the other day, I think a major, less-remarked upon problem with the movie is that it doesn't really need most of the second act (Asha retrieving her family's wishes, Magnifico trying to find the culprit before using the book, etc.). There's nothing stopping her and Star from just rounding her friends up and trying to get everybody's wishes out of the tower right away, which is ostensibly what she was singing about earlier -- thus freeing her whole community from his tyranny, since she already knows he's evil -- and nothing stopping Magnifico from going full-on evil via the book when he realizes his hold on power is in danger due to Star's arrival...but rather than just have them do those things and move on to the big climax, we effectively go through a bunch of the same events (explaining to the Friends that Magnifico isn't who he seems to be, sneaking into the tower, running away from a villain, etc.) twice over because of how the third act plays out. Asha not just getting on with saving Rosas is a means of padding out the narrative to theatrical feature length. It's a contrast to how better-paced and plotted films like Beauty and the Beast are.
MarvelCharacterNerd
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I can happily report that Fortuosity on Main Street at Disneyland is no longer the discount Wish store!
They brought normal merch in - and shoved all the Wish toys with their 40% off signs into the toy room next door in the Emporium, and the clothing to the purse room at Elias & Co at DCA. There is still a discount Wish room in World of Disney in Downtown Disney as well.
I only mention this because of how ridiculous it is at this point. lol
They brought normal merch in - and shoved all the Wish toys with their 40% off signs into the toy room next door in the Emporium, and the clothing to the purse room at Elias & Co at DCA. There is still a discount Wish room in World of Disney in Downtown Disney as well.
I only mention this because of how ridiculous it is at this point. lol
bwr827
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Anecdotally, my family had no idea the movie existed until it showed up to stream on Disney+.
WorldExplorer
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I think Disney World has given up, or at least Epcot has. They had all of it shoved in the store where she meets and every single piece is gone.
Speaking of which, I really wish she'd leave and they would put someone people actually care about in her place. I refuse to believe the movie was a massive bomb, it did badly on Disney Plus, AND the merchandise failed miserably, but there's still demand for a character meet.
Speaking of which, I really wish she'd leave and they would put someone people actually care about in her place. I refuse to believe the movie was a massive bomb, it did badly on Disney Plus, AND the merchandise failed miserably, but there's still demand for a character meet.
CaptainAmerica
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They were content to bury Lightyear and Strange World but Wish is still hanging around for some reason.
I think the problem with just burying Wish is that they obviously figured, as a princess-adjacent movie, it was going to catch on and they didn't want to be underprepared they way they were with the original Frozen and to a lesser extent Encanto. It's pretty clear they still have to push out a preplanned wave of back-to-school merchandise over the next three months or so before they can leave it behind altogether; by comparison there was virtually no merchandising for Strange World at all. They know that boys just don't care for Disney animation (Pixar, maybe), so there wasn't any point in trying to push the merch on that one.
LittleBuford
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What an odd, unfounded assertion.