Agreed, no easy answer for Disney specifically. I think my latest headstone says it:
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I do think it comes down a little bit to the viewer's perspective regarding how convincing they find the argument. Specifically, the extent to which you privilege individual freedom above the benefits trading any of that away could bring. In the real world, this kind of argument comes up all the time about people thinking they are happy, for example, paying high taxes in exchange for public services but not realising the freedom they are losing by not being able to choose how they spend that money themselves.I'd surmise that this is actually some of the point. After all, plenty of intelligent, well-meaning people live under authoritarian regimes even today, and most of them remain content (or are even enthusiastic) to do so. If a viewer finds themselves thinking that life didn't seem so bad under Magnifico, that the tradeoffs made for security and a relatively empty happiness are worth it, then that probably says something about the viewer and how they would think about a real-world analogue. The film was trying to challenge its viewers to consider whether this is really okay or not. Asha (and by extension, probably the writers) didn't think so. Audiences need not agree.
I do think it comes down a little bit to the viewer's perspective regarding how convincing they find the argument. Specifically, the extent to which you privilege individual freedom above the benefits trading any of that away could bring. In the real world, this kind of argument comes up all the time about people thinking they are happy, for example, paying high taxes in exchange for public services but not realising the freedom they are losing by not being able to choose how they spend that money themselves.
I thought the film could have raised interesting questions about authoritarianism, but the simplistic way in which this was handled along with the lack of the character development is why I can understand the bad reviews despite the film not being terrible as such. As I said, I left wondering what this "authentic" happiness will mean for Rosas as a society where everyone is "A Star!" whose wishes and dreams are the most important thing in the world.
It has nothing to do with today's market. Even if Wish's budget was slashed in half, it would still be a flop. Notorious box office disappointments like Atlantis made substantially more money than Wish, and that was over 20 years ago.
Adjusted for inflation, mega flops like Treasure Planet made more than Wish.
No I canβt agree. Itβs not as if the budget snuck up on them. It was a known factor. They thought going back to a βtraditionalβ fairytale movie for the 100th would be a slam dunk but unfortunately it was too late. Probably too far into the production process with the bad apples at the company that got them in this mess. Letβs assume that the rumor of the gender fluid Star posing as a shapeshifter is true. It may have made the movie more interesting but it also reeks of DEI so something like that gets cut and perhaps other ideas get cut and you end up with this super sanitized movie that was being pulled into many different directions.
What makes more sense to me is they have been losing the faith and trust of their customers because of their DEI approach, subpar movies and streaming. They have tried to reel back some of the DEI stuff but itβll take time to gain some of that faith/ trust back + a string of good movies again. And of course they need to cut down their budgets by at least half until they get out of this slump.
It sounds like Iger has started to course correct if we are to believe his words from that interview a few weeks ago. The entire production team on future projects needs to have their priorities set straight and then you just need to let them create. They may need a shakeup with talent too. And of course DEI needs to stay out of it.
"the new reality" they helped created for themselves with Disney+
Will they be able to thread that needle without an army of cubicle workers in Burbank protesting and marching around company headquarters with signs and chants before walking out for the day on a Stunning & Brave Comp Day?![]()
They really fell for the trap that Netflix laid for them. In a world where Disney didn't create Disney+ and more or less just refused to play the streaming game (or better, treated digital releases like the Disney Vault where they auction them to the highest bidder for limited windows of time), there would still be massive FOMO for the majority of Disney's animated releases when they hit theaters. Instead of keeping to a "blue ocean" strategy, they just chased streaming with everyone else. It's a race to the bottom and the profits don't exist.
Now youβre grouping all parents into the same box? Thatβsβ¦β¦interesting. Not all parents are terrified for their offspring to view representations of life other than what exists in their bubble.That Valutainment Guy said it best recently. Iger chose the wrong enemies and the wrong Allies. He made the parents the enemy. The ones who have the money and control what their kids watch and where they go. In the process theyβve lost a lot of peoples trust. I think Chapek actually saw this happening but didnβt have the b@lls to stand up to the mob and crumbled to the internal pressure. At the end of the day there are a lot more parents than the folks they were trying to appease. Simple numbers game.
Now youβre grouping all parents into the same box? Thatβsβ¦β¦interesting. Not all parents are terrified for their offspring to view representations of life other than what exists in their bubble.
Yes because no employee anywhere ever restocks anything. You might as well also claim that no one is buying new because there is always beer on the shelves.
As you have already been informed twice, you do not speak for all parents. You speak for yourself and your family and that is it.Hey Iβm just the messenger. Why donβt you take it up with the Valutainment guy.
You know this how? Do you work at the Target you were previously discussing?
You sure seem overly interested in it, for some reason. Hmmmmmm. By the way, I donβt frequent Target but they have some extremely cool merch on ShopDisney and other online retailers.So you re telling me that every single time I go to Target it happens to be right after a Wish restock with not one item missing from the shelf? And oh yea this movie happens to be bombing too? Crazy coincidence.
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