Phroobar
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Wish could have make Frozen-type money but it still a bad movie. FNAF didn't pretend to be anything but what it is and was still a bad movie.
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Wish (Walt Disney Animation - November 2023)
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Disstevefan1
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Wish so far made 105 Million world wide so, IF the budget was cut in half, there is a chance to break even.
Disstevefan1
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Well the first Frozen was a great movie, I did not care for Frozen II but that made even more money.
Strangely, I am looking forward to the FNAF sequel, yes, I know it will also be a pile of cr@p too, but I also love to watch every F&F movie.
I totally agree with you, with FNAF and F&F, we know what we are getting going in and accept the ride through cr@pville and have a good ride.
Disstevefan1
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Also, its good to be out of forums.wdwmagic jail.
The T r O p H y store is closed.
My hope was for all I gave out, they just gave a smile or a laugh. Never meant to hurt anyone.
The T r O p H y store is closed.
My hope was for all I gave out, they just gave a smile or a laugh. Never meant to hurt anyone.
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Disgruntled Walt
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I for one loved the trophies! Are they really not allowed? I saw it as just a giant LIKE or LAUGH.
Ghost93
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Break-even for a movie is usually 2-2.5 times the budget.
Disstevefan1
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My point was, if the budget for a given movie was low enough, it could break even or make money.
We see it happen all the time.
mickEblu
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No I can’t agree. It’s not as if the budget snuck up on them. It was a known factor. They thought going back to a “traditional” fairytale movie for the 100th would be a slam dunk but unfortunately it was too late. Probably too far into the production process with the bad apples at the company that got them in this mess. Let’s assume that the rumor of the gender fluid Star posing as a shapeshifter is true. It may have made the movie more interesting but it also reeks of DEI so something like that gets cut and perhaps other ideas get cut and you end up with this super sanitized movie that was being pulled into many different directions.
What makes more sense to me is they have been losing the faith and trust of their customers because of their DEI approach, subpar movies and streaming. They have tried to reel back some of the DEI stuff but it’ll take time to gain some of that faith/ trust back + a string of good movies again. And of course they need to cut down their budgets by at least half until they get out of this slump.
It sounds like Iger has started to course correct if we are to believe his words from that interview a few weeks ago. The entire production team on future projects needs to have their priorities set straight and then you just need to let them create. They may need a shakeup with talent too. And of course DEI needs to stay out of it.
Disstevefan1
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You are right that the budgets didn't accidentally get this high.
THE APPROVED BUDGETS ARE TOO HIGH! THEY REQUIRE TOO MANY BUTTS IN SEATS TO BREAK EVEN.
mickEblu
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Been to Target a lot recently and those Wish shelves are stocked! I’m talking not one toy missing.
Miss Jennifer
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One of the biggest disappointments about the movie (besides the mishandling of what could have been a nuanced, redeemable villain) is the fact that the script and score didn't give Ariana DeBose the chance to show off the talents that won her an Oscar for THIS.
mickEblu
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Right but they were approved because they thought the movie would be profitable obviously. The unknown that they re trying to figure out is why their audience is not showing up which is what I was explaining in my last post. Sure I guess they can just solve everything by cutting production budgets by 2/3 and just bank on whatever loyal audience remains. But if they can’t make a hit at 200 million then can they make one at 65 million? Talent might need a shakeup but it Doesn’t really matter as long as priorities don’t change.
TalkingHead
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This is a Disney musical, not Cabaret. But even so, they’d need to more effectively show the downsides of the king’s authoritarianism. The movie fails on that very basic level.
Phroobar
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She is an amazing singer but needs equally great material. In the cast of West Side Story she had that and really shined. With Wish there was only so much she could have done.
mickEblu
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That Valutainment Guy said it best recently. Iger chose the wrong enemies and the wrong Allies. He made the parents the enemy. The ones who have the money and control what their kids watch and where they go. In the process they’ve lost a lot of peoples trust. I think Chapek actually saw this happening but didn’t have the b@lls to stand up to the mob and crumbled to the internal pressure. At the end of the day there are a lot more parents than the folks they were trying to appease. Simple numbers game.
LittleBuford
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Who is this mob, and what have they brought about that is so objectionable to parents?
mickEblu
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The vocal minority of Social media.
Plenty. Where have you been? Do I need to repeat myself every two pages?
The downsides sink or swim based on what the viewer thinks the difference is between exploring and sitting on your porch and flying and feeding the birds in the park.
TalkingHead
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What?
Did you see the movie? 2 of the 4 main examples of dreams erased that are shown in the movie are:
1) The guy who dreams of planting his flag at the top of a mountain (exploring), but his life consists of sitting on his porch and being hopelessly normal.
2) The woman who dreams of flying, but is shown sitting by the fountain feeding the birds.
Those are intended to demonstrate the difference between what would be possible given the freedom to pursue those things and their reality under Magnifico.