WindTraders is all out of Banshees in The Rookery (NO JOKE)

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Its not the only reason, but its definitely part of it. If the land had opened without being tied to an IP but featured the same theming and attractions, how much different would the reception be? And there wouldn't have been 7 years of people saying it was a bad tie-in.

Considering the drought of 'new' at WDW I would venture to say roughly the same reception.
 

Kamikaze

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure it even works for Nintendo. They're losing goodwill fast.

The difference with Nintendo is that they can afford to not care. They have zero long term debt, and probably no debt at all again after the Switch. So while people may get upset about the Switch not being in stock (same as with the Wii, the NES Classic, and the New 3DS), it will eventually blow over. They have something that no one else can offer: The Nintendo first party properties.

Disney has a similar thing - you can't get these experiences anywhere else, so they can basically do what they want. Running out of stock on something like this should be unacceptable, but look at all the Limited Edition items they sell for special occasions and don't order anywhere near enough of. That should be unacceptable as well.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
They have something that no one else can offer: The Nintendo first party properties.
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They'd be exponentially more profitable if they had any clue how to sell their products. Most tech companies use their hardware to sell their software (see: Apple, Microsoft, Samsung) because software is much more profitable, what with zero marginal cost of production and whatnot. Nintendo does the exact opposite, using their high-margin software to sell lower-margin hardware. It's completely backwards. When software is your core competency, be a software company. If they put Breath of the Wild on Xbox Live, the PlayStation Store, and Steam, they could sell 25 million copies at $100 a pop in about a month.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
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They'd be exponentially more profitable if they had any clue how to sell their products. Most tech companies use their hardware to sell their software (see: Apple, Microsoft, Samsung) because software is much more profitable, what with zero marginal cost of production and whatnot. Nintendo does the exact opposite, using their high-margin software to sell lower-margin hardware. It's completely backwards. When software is your core competency, be a software company. If they put Breath of the Wild on Xbox Live, the PlayStation Store, and Steam, they could sell 25 million copies at $100 a pop in about a month.
This^^^

The last Nintendo System I purchased was a Wii as it had Mario and Zelda along with a few decent other titles and was relatively inexpensive. This made it an "Ok, we can get one" kind of decision.

Once the Kinect for the 360 came out the, the Wii was an antiquated piece of garbage only good for late night Mario Kart in my house. It got sold back to GameStop about a year after we got it.

Since I only "like" Mario and Zelda, there is no way that just those games will make me ever buy another Nintendo syste. Throw them up on Xbox Live and they would be an insta-buy.
 

bclane

Well-Known Member
Various sources have reported that The Rookery inside WindTraders ran out of their stock Banshees. This occurred only 5 to 6 days after Pandora opened to the public, and they had sufficient stock during the passholder previews! I believe this must be due to popularity. Sources also say they expect a restock in three weeks or so.
Source:
http://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories/windtraders-is-all-out-of-banshees-in-the-rookery/

They are selling them again today. Doesn't look like there is a lot of them left though so hurry hurry if you want one.
 

bclane

Well-Known Member
They only have blue and they just said they may have a few more tomorrow but it would be extremely limited and then none again till mid July. The new ones will be improved but no real details on how. They may not have enough for the people in line now so seriously, if you want one, hurry...
 

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Kamikaze

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Since I only "like" Mario and Zelda, there is no way that just those games will make me ever buy another Nintendo syste. Throw them up on Xbox Live and they would be an insta-buy.

This would be akin to Disney licensing their characters for use at Universal. Are you also a proponent of that?
 

Kamikaze

Well-Known Member
They'd be exponentially more profitable if they had any clue how to sell their products. Most tech companies use their hardware to sell their software (see: Apple, Microsoft, Samsung) because software is much more profitable, what with zero marginal cost of production and whatnot. Nintendo does the exact opposite, using their high-margin software to sell lower-margin hardware. It's completely backwards. When software is your core competency, be a software company. If they put Breath of the Wild on Xbox Live, the PlayStation Store, and Steam, they could sell 25 million copies at $100 a pop in about a month.

This is a strange argument to make, because its hard to bash a company that basically has no 'real' issues. Supply constraints, sure, either on purpose or by design, but they have no problem selling their software or their hardware, and one of the most loyal fanbases around.

Would they make money if they made their games available elsewhere? Of course. But they make money now, and they control everything. So why change what isn't broken?
 

Kamikaze

Well-Known Member
I could care less if MS released the next Halo game on PS4 and Xbox, why should this be any different?

MS wouldn't do that because they don't have any reason to. You might not care as a consumer, but you know what, if you REALLY want to play Halo, you'll buy an Xbox to do it. Thats what first party and exclusives are all about.

Would you go to WDW if you could get the character and ride experiences at the local Six Flags? Of course not, and Disney would get the money from the licensing of those characters, but they don't get the rest of your money, which is what they are after, and what the console makers are after with the first party games - you buying the entire package, not just a piece.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
This is a strange argument to make, because its hard to bash a company that basically has no 'real' issues. Supply constraints, sure, either on purpose or by design, but they have no problem selling their software or their hardware, and one of the most loyal fanbases around.

Would they make money if they made their games available elsewhere? Of course. But they make money now, and they control everything. So why change what isn't broken?
The purpose of a corporation is shareholder wealth MAXIMIZATION, not shareholder wealth good-enough-ization. They should do the thing that makes them the most money, not a thing that makes them am okay amount of money.

You're also incorrect that everything is rosy in Nintendoland. They were in seriously bad shape not three years ago.
 

Kamikaze

Well-Known Member
The purpose of a corporation is shareholder wealth MAXIMIZATION, not shareholder wealth good-enough-ization. They should do the thing that makes them the most money, not a thing that makes them am okay amount of money.

You're also incorrect that everything is rosy in Nintendoland. They were in seriously bad shape not three years ago.

1) Rules (and the way a corporation is perceived) are much different in Japan.

2) The Wii U bombed, yes, but the company hasn't had any 'real' trouble. The 3DS still sells like crazy. They've sold more 3DS' than Sony has sold PS4s. But somehow thats 'seriously bad shape'?
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
The difference with Nintendo is that they can afford to not care. They have zero long term debt, and probably no debt at all again after the Switch. So while people may get upset about the Switch not being in stock (same as with the Wii, the NES Classic, and the New 3DS), it will eventually blow over. They have something that no one else can offer: The Nintendo first party properties.

Disney has a similar thing - you can't get these experiences anywhere else, so they can basically do what they want. Running out of stock on something like this should be unacceptable, but look at all the Limited Edition items they sell for special occasions and don't order anywhere near enough of. That should be unacceptable as well.
Its not just Pandora. The movie Moana is severely under represented in merchandise in the park. A CM at the Poly said that they sold out of Moana stuff almost immediately and they were not geared to make a new manufactering run fast enough. The CM said its kind of embarrassing when you have little to no Moana merchandise to sell in Moana Mercantile.
 

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