Will DCA be a Complete, Well Rounded and Full Day Park after the New Rides Open?

[Professortango1]

Doubt that...

If Disney thought that was a problem they'd be building more modern bus bar attractions in all their Parks. And since they are cheap you'd know Disney would build those over any other attraction if they thought it was worth it. So since they haven't built one in a long time clearly they don't think modern audiences will be receptive to them.


You still miss the point, DCA already has had these type of attractions and are moving away from them. The actual bus bar attraction you are looking for is getting torn down in the spring. They are clearly trying to differentiate DCA from DL even more. Which is why you don't find a 1-for-1 attraction type and land type in DCA compared to DL. DL will have the FL Dark Rides and other classic attractions, while DCA will have the more modern attractions based on more modern ride systems.

The problem isn't that Disney isn't copying Disneyland, the problem is that particular aspect of Disneyland is very successful for a reason. A small courtyard with a bank of 4 quality C-Ticket darkrides that average about 10-20 minute line waits and a scattering of flat rides and some vibe rides makes Fantasyland the perfect spot for families to feel like they get their bang for their buck. They park the stroller once, can do every attraction in the land with all family (except for Matterhorn which exists on the fringes,) each ride has manageable waits, each ride feels unique and quaint, and you can easily spend a majority of your day there.

DCA needs a place to enjoy a bunch of attractions without walking to some other remote corner. Cars Land almost achieves this, but the attractions are too spread out and they still need a darkride or two. Heck, I'd love to see Luigi's replaced with a darkride to help balance out RSR. Avengers Campus can also hope to satisfy a similar itch for tweens, but the wait times and expectations are inflated to D/E levels with the lineup.

The pier is trying to act as the FL currently and I think it could work, but the flat rides are way too spread out. Nobody wants to park the stroller by Jesse's Critter Carousel then walk the kids around to Emotional Whirlwind, then to SSS, then JJ, then GSS, then GZ, then Mermaid. That's a huge lap for families. And only giving us flat rides and a one inflated darkride that has been inflated beyond the quaint and easy to do and into a lackluster D. If they moved JJ to the Screamin' Helix and moved Zephyr to near the Incredicoaster Launch, and added 2-3 busbar rides, you'd have a great little corner of the park.

 

[Disney Irish]

The problem isn't that Disney isn't copying Disneyland, the problem is that particular aspect of Disneyland is very successful for a reason. A small courtyard with a bank of 4 quality C-Ticket darkrides that average about 10-20 minute line waits and a scattering of flat rides and some vibe rides makes Fantasyland the perfect spot for families to feel like they get their bang for their buck. They park the stroller once, can do every attraction in the land with all family (except for Matterhorn which exists on the fringes,) each ride has manageable waits, each ride feels unique and quaint, and you can easily spend a majority of your day there.

DCA needs a place to enjoy a bunch of attractions without walking to some other remote corner. Cars Land almost achieves this, but the attractions are too spread out and they still need a darkride or two. Heck, I'd love to see Luigi's replaced with a darkride to help balance out RSR. Avengers Campus can also hope to satisfy a similar itch for tweens, but the wait times and expectations are inflated to D/E levels with the lineup.

The pier is trying to act as the FL currently and I think it could work, but the flat rides are way too spread out. Nobody wants to park the stroller by Jesse's Critter Carousel then walk the kids around to Emotional Whirlwind, then to SSS, then JJ, then GSS, then GZ, then Mermaid. That's a huge lap for families. And only giving us flat rides and a one inflated darkride that has been inflated beyond the quaint and easy to do and into a lackluster D. If they moved JJ to the Screamin' Helix and moved Zephyr to near the Incredicoaster Launch, and added 2-3 busbar rides, you'd have a great little corner of the park.

I understand what you guys are saying, I really do, and in some ways I agree with the sentiment even if I don't agree with the suggestions. However as stated a bunch of times now, this just isn't what Disney is wanting to do with DCA at this point, whether we think that is right or not. Plus as mentioned also a bunch of times this isn't what Disney has done in any of their Parks in at least several decades. So its not like this is some "new" phenomenon that recently happened. I remember a conversation had on the MC forums from over a decade ago on a same topic on why Disney doesn't build these type of simple dark rides anymore. Heck I think if you go back almost 20 years you can find the same conversation had on this very site. So again its not a new topic, this is something that has been discussed for a long time now on fan sites. And probably has been discussed in relation to DCA many many times.

I think the only hope for those that want these type of rides is that Disney will do what you and the few others are suggesting in the new future expansion areas such as Simba lot.

 

[mickEblu]

The problem isn't that Disney isn't copying Disneyland, the problem is that particular aspect of Disneyland is very successful for a reason. A small courtyard with a bank of 4 quality C-Ticket darkrides that average about 10-20 minute line waits and a scattering of flat rides and some vibe rides makes Fantasyland the perfect spot for families to feel like they get their bang for their buck. They park the stroller once, can do every attraction in the land with all family (except for Matterhorn which exists on the fringes,) each ride has manageable waits, each ride feels unique and quaint, and you can easily spend a majority of your day there.

DCA needs a place to enjoy a bunch of attractions without walking to some other remote corner. Cars Land almost achieves this, but the attractions are too spread out and they still need a darkride or two. Heck, I'd love to see Luigi's replaced with a darkride to help balance out RSR. Avengers Campus can also hope to satisfy a similar itch for tweens, but the wait times and expectations are inflated to D/E levels with the lineup.

The pier is trying to act as the FL currently and I think it could work, but the flat rides are way too spread out. Nobody wants to park the stroller by Jesse's Critter Carousel then walk the kids around to Emotional Whirlwind, then to SSS, then JJ, then GSS, then GZ, then Mermaid. That's a huge lap for families. And only giving us flat rides and a one inflated darkride that has been inflated beyond the quaint and easy to do and into a lackluster D. If they moved JJ to the Screamin' Helix and moved Zephyr to near the Incredicoaster Launch, and added 2-3 busbar rides, you'd have a great little corner of the park.

Not to mention that JJ has a 40 inch height requirement and GSS / SSS have 42 inch height requirements. So most kids under 4 aren’t getting on any of those three rides.

Fantasyland is great for families with young kids and even if the modern building codes won’t allow for exactly the same thing I don’t see why you couldn’t do a new land with one Big E ticket, 2-3 FL style dark rides (even if they re a little bigger) and a flat ride or two. They can obviously. And families with young kids would love it. But they prefer to build the hyper immersive lands with two big rides to sell more merch, themed food and LL’s. I think you can have the best of both worlds though.