Why Monsters, Inc. belongs in Tomorrowland

wizards8507

Active Member
Original Poster
Everyone tends to complain that the Tomorrowland theme is executed poorly, so here you go.

From "Since the World Began" by Jeff Kurtti

There was a challenge for the Imagineers: How do you present a world of tomorrow that doesn't become horribly dated by the time it's built?... The Imagineers... portrayed the future as seen by early 20th century visionaries, both real and fictional. The result is a cosmic science-fantasy community of the future, a celebration of the machine age, with tongue firmly planted in cheek.
 

Spinlock

New Member
Not complaining much, but I feel Tomorrowland has kind of been turned into a new kind of Fantasyland, with more modern cartoons/stories. Fantasyland tends to have the fairy tales, but Tomorrowland now has Buzz, stitch, and the Monsters(I'm surprised the Speedway doesn't have the Cars from the Pixar movie by now). It's kind of lost it's whole cohesive, though out feel: like when Space Mountain had the videos with XS stuff in it, and the video in Alien Encounter mentioned the Timekeeper, I believe.
It all seems to have become kind of random now.
 

Banksy

New Member
:brick: WOW We have gotten spoilt. I am not complaining about anything. I love WDW world for a reason and NOTHING is perfect, but i just feel there is no point complaining about something that makes me so happy.


And as i have learned on this site, you can't make everyone happy.

Rant over (Sorry :D)
 

Banksy

New Member
I don't see how that says Monster's Inc. does (or doesn't) fit.

Same! :king:

If we really want to be stubborn and picky, i can do that. How does space mountain fit? Spaceships have already been invented, therefore not an invention of tomorrow. *Snaps fingers, sruts away with attitude* :brick::D
 

Spike-in-Berlin

Well-Known Member
Well it is definitely not the kind of TL that Walt wanted. TL was about the future, about technological progress, about the space age, about Science Fiction. And today TL is more about characters from Disney and Pixar movies.
 

Chevross

Active Member
Same! :king:

If we really want to be stubborn and picky, i can do that. How does space mountain fit? Spaceships have already been invented, therefore not an invention of tomorrow. *Snaps fingers, sruts away with attitude* :brick::D

Human-travel through Wormholes, space ports on different planets, luxury drink serving robots? :lookaroun
 

Spike-in-Berlin

Well-Known Member
Same! :king:

If we really want to be stubborn and picky, i can do that. How does space mountain fit? Spaceships have already been invented, therefore not an invention of tomorrow. *Snaps fingers, sruts away with attitude* :brick::D

You didn't mean this serious, do you? Speaking in terms of technological progress mankind is still in the stone age of space travel, at the very beginning. We haven't even got to the neolithicum so far.
Space Mountain is about the exploration of deep space, of manned spaceships that travel to distant planets or even stars.
Space Mountain is the epitomic ride of TL and at the moment one of the very few adequate rides there.
 

DisneyMusician2

Well-Known Member
Well it is definitely not the kind of TL that Walt wanted. TL was about the future, about technological progress, about the space age, about Science Fiction. And today TL is more about characters from Disney and Pixar movies.

While true, Walt's world moved at a much slower pace than ours. His technology developed slower and Disneyland still closed completely during the week for maintenance. Trying to build attractions that stayed on top of the most current technologies would be nearly impossible to maintain and be a significant drain on the budget.

That being said, I wish we had less character tie-ins and more original concepts in Tomorrowland as a whole. As long as there is a TTA in some form, I have love for Tomorrowland.
 

Banksy

New Member
Human-travel through Wormholes, space ports on different planets, luxury drink serving robots? :lookaroun

America must be a couple centuries behind us British. Been there, done that.

You didn't mean this serious, do you? Speaking in terms of technological progress mankind is still in the stone age of space travel, at the very beginning. We haven't even got to the neolithicum so far.
Space Mountain is about the exploration of deep space, of manned spaceships that travel to distant planets or even stars.
Space Mountain is the epitomic ride of TL and at the moment one of the very few adequate rides there.
:brick: Yeah...I was deadly serious.......Just in case you thought that was serious. I was of course, being sarcastic. Both times. :ROFLOL:
 

Spike-in-Berlin

Well-Known Member
While true, Walt's world moved at a much slower pace than ours. His technology developed slower and Disneyland still closed completely during the week for maintenance. Trying to build attractions that stayed on top of the most current technologies would be nearly impossible to maintain and be a significant drain on the budget.

That being said, I wish we had less character tie-ins and more original concepts in Tomorrowland as a whole. As long as there is a TTA in some form, I have love for Tomorrowland.


TTA is great, last time there were lines and waits of more than 10 minutes, I never experienced waits on TTA so far but the last refurb made it a little faster and even more interesting.
But it's not the technology that has to be top of current technologies, it's the spirit and the theming that has to be.
 

Spike-in-Berlin

Well-Known Member
America must be a couple centuries behind us British. Been there, done that.


:brick: Yeah...I was deadly serious.......Just in case you thought that was serious. I was of course, being sarcastic. Both times. :ROFLOL:

Your sarcasm was targeted on those who believe, IMHO correctly, that there are several attractions in TL that do not belong there by being so picky that even SM wouldn't fit. We however proved that your sarcasm is wrong as even with your ridicolous standards put on SM it still fits into TL while Monster Inc. definitely don't. In this case your sarcasm fails to work as there are real arguments against MILF fitting into TL but no real ones against SM.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
WDI arn`t always right. They do what they are paid for. Especially when it`s for a PR release.

Tland `94 died in 2003 anyway.
 

Supergirl7710

New Member
I just have to say, though Buzz and Monsters might not be completely in Walt's Image of tomorrowland they are both very enjoyable rides that I make sure to hit every time I go. (Stitch is pretty good as well though I liked it much better when it was Alien Encounter). But think of it this way... Where else would they have put those two rides? Fantasyland? I think not. Adventureland? Nope. Frontierland? No way jose. And definitely they have nothing to do with Liberty Square. I feel the only other place Monsters could have been added would have been HS, and there's already TSM in HS so where else would you have had Disney put Buzz? Again, I think Disney found a snug little home for these two creative attractions. Though, if they ever do expand in TL again? I would love to see some serious sci-fi related rides a little more connected to Walt's original idea. :))))
 

SleepingMonk

Well-Known Member
From "Since the World Began" by Jeff Kurtti

"There was a challenge for the Imagineers: How do you present a world of tomorrow that doesn't become horribly dated by the time it's built?"



Here's a kooky thought...how about by being IMAGINATIVE!

It's kinda right there in the catchy job description.

Not much of an imagination engineer if you can't even dream up what the future might be like now are ya?
 

wizards8507

Active Member
Original Poster
Not much of an imagination engineer if you can't even dream up what the future might be like now are ya?

They can dream up what the future might be like but by the time new things would be built, they would already exist in reality and not be "future" any more. I think that's the difference between Tomorrowland and Future World. Tomorrowland is still supposed to be "Magic" and, as the Imagineers said, tongue-in-cheek, where monsters who harvest energy are perfectly allowable. It's a magical joke about the green movement. Future World, on the other hand, is the place where science and technology are supposed to rule.
 

Banksy

New Member
Your sarcasm was targeted on those who believe, IMHO correctly, that there are several attractions in TL that do not belong there by being so picky that even SM wouldn't fit. We however proved that your sarcasm is wrong as even with your ridicolous standards put on SM it still fits into TL while Monster Inc. definitely don't. In this case your sarcasm fails to work as there are real arguments against MILF fitting into TL but no real ones against SM.

Your lack of a sense of humour is sad, and the fact that you think i gave a ____ (< Insert word of choice) is also sad. My point was that space mountain DOES fit, therefore my sarcasm did work. It's called irony. Here is a definition of what irony is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

And i didn't understand 80% of what you just said because you abbreviated everything.

But i did understand that you just said MILF. Which i think is inappropriate for a family forum..... :hammer:


My point is basically, no one is ever going to be satisfied. I refuse to be one of those brats who complains about everything in disney, it sucks the fun out of everything. :hammer::hammer::hammer:


People need to chill out and stop taking everything as a personal attack on them, geez. :D
 

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