Supergirl7710
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ohhh snap. Monsters laugh floor is abbreviated into milf :OOO.... more subliminal messaging from Disney? I think so! ;D
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Why Monsters, Inc. belongs in Tomorrowland
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Banksy
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ChrisFL
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I made a blog post about Tomorrowland ironically before I even saw this thread...:wave:
I made a blog post about Tomorrowland ironically before I even saw this thread...:wave:
SleepingMonk
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Nope, that's a cop out and just another poor excuse to be cheap.
We don't have undersea bases or homes, families living in space, robotic butlers and maids, terraforming projects on other planets, etc....
All that could be built and more.
Actually most of that was built and then scrapped for a cheap movie tie-in.
sublimesting
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So this would have been a turn of the century conversation then? "So, what's this new fangled steam car you've got there? Next thing you know people will be doing the Charleston and going to comedy shows put on by monsters!"
Nope, that's a cop out and just another poor excuse to be cheap.
We don't have undersea bases or homes, families living in space, robotic butlers and maids, terraforming projects on other planets, etc....
All that could be built and more.
Actually most of that was built and then scrapped for a cheap movie tie-in.
I don't know if it's TDO being cheap, but generally I have to agree with you.
There are so many great future ideas that they could pick up on - even just the familiar space theme is a treasure trove of ideas.
They really don't need to go the route of fantasy to portray the future, just think big. I think most are even willing to overlook that the portrayal of the future is sometimes just a panel of blinking lights. It's the ideas that are really what gets people excited.
Animaniac93-98
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And gave birth to Toonmorrowland.
Damn shame.
But didn't "Toonmorrowland" really start with Buzz in '98?
Monster's Inc. for MK fits in Tomorrowland because any other land would be even worse. Would make a better attraction for Pixar Place.
But it still a better fit for Tomorrowland than America Sings.
My thoughts exactly! They have to think far-fetched, Jetsons-style future. Flying cars, cities in the clouds, human teleportation .. those kinds of things. A blend of possible but way-off combined with a fantasy of the future. It shouldn't be about the bleeding edge. Like someone said, I think Future World is a better place for that more realistic point of view (and it would be hard to maintain, which is why it isn't done).
I can see how the MILF ties into that tongue-in-cheek vision of future, and I think that comical look at things is fun, but it could be so much better.
Animaniac93-98
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TDO must have been cheap for a while because old WDW Tomorrowland used to send the message of "Now is the Best Time of Your Life", especially when you could fly Eastern Airlines to Mexico! You could see so on the screen based attraction.
Or laughing.
ScorpionX
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That's a great way to put it, wizards8507.
pumpkin7
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the trouble is, we're not as interested in science and technology now as they were in the 1950's / 60's. we've got a lot of the stuff now that they could only imagine back then, so unfortunately it's had to go the way it has otherwise no one would visit it. it's a shame because it was awesome to look back on what the people of the 50's and 60's imagined the future would be, but that's all it ended up being; a nostalgic trip back in time.
it's a shame really because i really liked the timekeeper especially, but that's now dated technology which is why it was replaced.
however, i also like the laugh floor. it's very clever how they do it, and the people voicing the characters must have one hell of a job to keep auditorium after auditorium entertained. we only went in once, but i would have loved to have sat through another show... just hoping they didn't pick me! haha.
lazyboy97o
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How was Tomorrowland '94 a "tounge in cheek" concept?
Banksy
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You said MILF. You also need a nap and/or a job 'cause you clearly have no sense of humour.
tinkerbell_S
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I think Monsters INC Laugh Floor fits just fine. Space Mountain, Carosel of Progress and the TTA are still there - they are the classics. They represent the original Tomorrowland. But you have to upgrade - you have to continue to bring generations into that area. You have to have something for everyone. I think Buzz Lightyear is great, and I like Monsters. Stitch's Great Escape has to go - but that's it.
Technology is constantly changing - it's difficult as an Imagineer to keep up with that kind of demand. Besides... The Magic Kingdom is all about fantasy - not technology. It's about entering seven lands of sure magic and fantasy. EPCOT is more about what's new and what's next in the technological world - Not Tomorrowland.
Technology is constantly changing - it's difficult as an Imagineer to keep up with that kind of demand. Besides... The Magic Kingdom is all about fantasy - not technology. It's about entering seven lands of sure magic and fantasy. EPCOT is more about what's new and what's next in the technological world - Not Tomorrowland.
the-reason14
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It's kind or ironic when you think about it. The Magic Kingdom(s) is like the most random and inconsistent Disney theme park(s) ever. You have seven different lands with their own theme, but it all just works. Epcot's theme was pretty much future and technology; essentially 'a big ole tomorrowland' add in WS, and that's as random as it gets. MGM's studio/movie theme could be an extension of Main Street and a few of the attractions in it could fit comfortably in the MK. And then Animal Kingdom is like a 'big ole adventureland.'
In relation to tomorrowland, even though I was too young and naive to acknowledge it, I miss the 1994 ish version of it because it all gelled and worked really well. Now it's kind of like a mishmash, and while Buzz, Stitch, and Monsters don't necessarily fit, especially Monsters imo, they do kinda work in the new *new* tomorrowland of the 2000s.
ght
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I personally have no problem with either attraction being in Tomorrowland, I enjoy both and it isn't like they have put a giant Mike and Sully in front of the building that takes away from the overall look of the land. What is interesting is how much passion there is about this subject on the East coast while I can't recall hearing anyone complain about it on the West coast. DL is where go more often now and I can't recall one person complain about Buzz or the Nemo Subs (heck the Nemo Subs got a lot of praise when the opened). The complaints I hear about TL out here is the lack of a Peoplemover or the COP, not about too much Pixar.
That quote is from Tomorrowland 94, not the one today. 94 barely exists anymore and TLF isn't part of it.
raven
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I never thought Monsters Inc fit into Tomorroland. It's a different dimension, not the future.
Stitch is the same way. The movie is set in current day Hawaii and only they only travel into space.
Same can be said for Buzz Lightyear.
Kind of a stretch to place these here if you ask me.
Stitch is the same way. The movie is set in current day Hawaii and only they only travel into space.
Same can be said for Buzz Lightyear.
Kind of a stretch to place these here if you ask me.
Thrill
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I don't see how Monster's, Inc. matches with any historical view of the future.
I'm cool with a fantastical "retro-future" Tomorrowland, in the lines of Disneyland Paris' Discoveryland, as the serious futuristic views can be presented in Future World, and it would be near impossible to update two large lands to keep up with the future simultaneously. Still, what we have now doesn't reflect that.
Stitch and Monster's, Inc. both lack futurism, as they're set in the present day without much that would make them readily fit into a historical perspective of the future. Buzz can be argued, and I suppose (if this is a historic view of the future), that Indy Speedway may have some merit to it. At one point, motorized cars were futuristic. (Still, I think that something needs to be done about the fuel situation on that front. That smell is atrocious and would not exist in any ideal view of the future.)
Space Mountain works, the PeopleMover works. As much as I love Carousel of Progress, I'll readily admit that it doesn't really work in Tomorrowland, and is probably better fit elsewhere.
I'm cool with a fantastical "retro-future" Tomorrowland, in the lines of Disneyland Paris' Discoveryland, as the serious futuristic views can be presented in Future World, and it would be near impossible to update two large lands to keep up with the future simultaneously. Still, what we have now doesn't reflect that.
Stitch and Monster's, Inc. both lack futurism, as they're set in the present day without much that would make them readily fit into a historical perspective of the future. Buzz can be argued, and I suppose (if this is a historic view of the future), that Indy Speedway may have some merit to it. At one point, motorized cars were futuristic. (Still, I think that something needs to be done about the fuel situation on that front. That smell is atrocious and would not exist in any ideal view of the future.)
Space Mountain works, the PeopleMover works. As much as I love Carousel of Progress, I'll readily admit that it doesn't really work in Tomorrowland, and is probably better fit elsewhere.