Why Disney is better than Universal and other amusement parks...

[Goofyernmost]

Just need to say this. I very seldom agree with Jimmy Thick, but he has as much of a right to express his opinion as anyone else on this site (accept Mom, of course).

The calling for a thread to be closed because YOU don't agree with the persons stand is just unbelievable. Even the cowardice of putting people on ignore because your sensitivities cannot handle having someone disagree with YOU is beyond any reasonable comprehension. Ignore can be done without pushing a button, all you have to do is be strong enough to "ignore" it on your own.

There is nothing wrong with a (I hate to use this word, WDW1974 has ruined it for me) spirited discussion of pro's and con's that might make you pause and wonder if your vision is correct or not, but it certainly shouldn't be offensive or in need of a call for burial. Please if you don't want to be part of this or any discussion, without attempting to be massively superior to everyone else, then just move to the next thread. Your contributing your displeasure on the fact that something is posted instead of having a logical response, without insult, to the content is really not much of a contribution. It's like screaming out loud...I MUST HAVE MY WAY!

 

[LucyK]

I'm a Universal lover but I'll play...

Better immersion feeling. The bubble drowns you and you enjoy it.

Better characters. Those are the ones I grew up with. Sure I love The Simpsons and the Minions are cute, but Donald Duck is my main guy(duck?).

Nicer surroundings. From when you leave the parks till you're back at your resort, all you see is tree and landscapings.

 

[ABQ]

Really, With Disney catering to the 'pub crawl' crowd at EPCOT and the 'Honey Boo Boo' demographic at MK and quality nowhere to be found - except in small doses at AK (I truly enjoy the animals) I don't think it's excessive.

Disney now feels a bit like C.M. Kornbluth's 'The Marching Morons' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons

Well, to be fair, Uni does cater to the Honey Boo Boo crowd too, the irony of her t-shirt is almost comical.

 

[cynic710]

its not that I think uni is bad, I go there every Disney trip, but besides well themed areas, its really the cms that add that extra magic that completes the "show". at uni, its a worker, and at Disney, its a cast member. you can tell Disney went above and beyond to bring you from our world to theirs, and one cannot simply dismiss that effort. universal is themed really well, but its the fine details that really set Disney apart.

 

[Goofyernmost]

its not that I think uni is bad, I go there every Disney trip, but besides well themed areas, its really the cms that add that extra magic that completes the "show". at uni, its a worker, and at Disney, its a cast member. you can tell Disney went above and beyond to bring you from our world to theirs, and one cannot simply dismiss that effort. universal is themed really well, but its the fine details that really set Disney apart.

I have to disagree with that a little. It used to be that way with the CM's vs. TM's at Uni, but when I was there last January...wow, what a difference. The old Disney spirit was there and not so much at Disney. Might have been just the luck of timing, but, from the ones I spoke to...it is more then just a job to them.

 

[GLaDOS]

I have to disagree with that a little. It used to be that way with the CM's vs. TM's at Uni, but when I was there last January...wow, what a difference. The old Disney spirit was there and not so much at Disney. Might have been just the luck of timing, but, from the ones I spoke to...it is more then just a job to them.

Ever since Potter has sparked the Universal renaissance, the TMs have fed off the energy and have completely done a 180. The place is exciting and has a sense of momentum the workforce is really feeding off. It's terrific.

As for the topic of the thread, if we're talking Disneyland or Tokyo, I agree. WDW? Not in the slightest. Give me the resort that's furiously working towards bettering itself rather than the one working to find new ways to squeeze the last penny out of your pocket.

 

[Beholder]

Admittedly, I'm biased towards WDW. It's part of my childhood, part of many, many memories with loved ones who are still here and those no longer alive. Wether it's logical or irrational, I don't believe I'll ever place another theme park above WDW for those reasons alone. I don't have to put down another, non-Disney park to justify why I love Disney. WDW has it's problems, it's issues. Other parks are doing just as good and in some cases better than WDW right now. But as the question has been asked, the simple fact that WDW has, over the years, become a part of my family's traditions and a significant part of our memories, it's the best. For better or worse, I identify with WDW, I take it much more personally (hence the stern eye towards its short comings!), and I still think of as "home".

 

[Thrill]

Except that Disney's Fastpass system is a mess, even before Fastpass+, and is currently 10 times worse, and Disney's Fastpass is not an actual benefit but rather makes you jump through hoops to avoid the drastically artificially inflated standby lines that Fastpass itself created, and in the end you ride the same amount of attractions by utilizing Fastpass that you would be able to ride if Fastpass didn't exist, oh and also Universal and other parks charge for their service because it is a true "front of the line" perk and entitles you to EVERY ride and not limited to three per day or however many you run back and forth across the park to get, and by being an upcharge perk it means that they do NOT have to devote 80% or higher of their rides' capacity to the Express line, so the standby lines are not a frustratingly slow crawl....

Not true.

The mean guest gains wait time due to the logistics of FastPass slowing queues down. FastPass creates new inefficiencies for well-informed guests to exploit, and they reap the benefits. FastPass opens up a lot of ways for less knowledgeable guests to screw up and add to their wait times. When people have entirely no idea how to use FastPass, they do stupid things with them, and other people get better FastPasses as a result.

What ultimately happens (at some level) is that the average guest spends more time in line, and the time-spent-in-queue is more widely distributed than it would be without FastPass. Just tossing made-up numbers out: instead of spending 2 hours in line per day, the average guest spends 2 hours and 5 minutes in line. The top 10% of guests spend 3 hours and 20 minutes in line instead of 3 hours in line. The bottom 10% of guests spend 1 hour and 20 minutes in line instead of 1 hour and 45 minutes in line.

 

[Tom]

Well, to be fair, Uni does cater to the Honey Boo Boo crowd too, the irony of her t-shirt is almost comical.

Gross.

 

[ford91exploder]

Well, to be fair, Uni does cater to the Honey Boo Boo crowd too, the irony of her t-shirt is almost comical.

Awesome!,

Look the Honey Boo Boo's of the world have just as much right to a great vacation as anyone else, What I do despise is CATERING to the lowest common denominator. As a species we should attempt to lift up everyone up not drag everything down to lowest common level.

The ultimate result of catering to the lowest common denominator could be the Kurt Vonnegut short story 'Harrison Bergeron' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron

 

[draybook]

Well, to be fair, Uni does cater to the Honey Boo Boo crowd too, the irony of her t-shirt is almost comical.

Man, Universal sure is looking a lot like Disney World these days. Just look how much alike they look...

Want some Aloe Vera for the burn?

 

[Hakunamatata]

Man, Universal sure is looking a lot like Disney World these days. Just look how much alike they look...

Want some Aloe Vera for the burn?

Snow White and the dis functional dwarves giving rednecks a bad name.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

I don't know whats worse, posting pictures of Honey Boo Boo or actually taking the time to search for them...

Back to topic...

The best thing about Disney World is the fact they have world class dining options. Victoria and Alberts is a AAA 5 Diamond award winner and there is only like 50 5 Diamond winners, or about that out of all the restaurants in the United States. At one time I believe Le Cellier was a 4 Diamond award winner. That's more awards dedicated to dining quality that all other amusement parks in Orlando combined in those parks entire existence. While other amusement parks cater to what I consider the Six Flags audience, the burgers, fries, chicken fingers, you do at Disney World, get options more suitable to a discerning palate.


Jimmy Thick- One a day, everyday.

 

[draybook]

I don't know whats worse, posting pictures of Honey Boo Boo or actually taking the time to search for them...

Back to topic...

The best thing about Disney World is the fact they have world class dining options. Victoria and Alberts is a AAA 5 Diamond award winner and there is only like 50 5 Diamond winners, or about that out of all the restaurants in the United States. At one time I believe Le Cellier was a 4 Diamond award winner. That's more awards dedicated to dining quality that all other amusement parks in Orlando combined in those parks entire existence. While other amusement parks cater to what I consider the Six Flags audience, the burgers, fries, chicken fingers, you do at Disney World, get options more suitable to a discerning palate.


Jimmy Thick- One a day, everyday.

Sorry if the 2 seconds it takes to search is more than you can handle. Ironic, given that when it's a picture of them at Universal you're clapping your hands together and clicking on the like button faster than a kid opening a Christmas present.

 

[Mukta]

It is so hard to put into words exactly why I love Disney parks. I love the theming, the immersion into another world and the giddiness I feel when I give Mickey a hug.

 

[Tom Morrow]

Not true.

The mean guest gains wait time due to the logistics of FastPass slowing queues down. FastPass creates new inefficiencies for well-informed guests to exploit, and they reap the benefits. FastPass opens up a lot of ways for less knowledgeable guests to screw up and add to their wait times. When people have entirely no idea how to use FastPass, they do stupid things with them, and other people get better FastPasses as a result.

Yes, informed guests get more Fastpasses and use it more wisely and thus get a greater advantage, but in the end you are doing more work to ride about the same amount that you would be able to ride if the system did not exist at all and every ride had only one line.

Remember that whenever there is Fastpass queue demand (almost always for the big draw attractions), the standby line is moving at 20% or less what it would be if there were only one line.

 

[Runmyhorse]

Actually the op did in my opinion want to start a bashing on each other. How many threads have been started about this topic??? Way more then I care to count. You can also look at the title and know he was trying to drag in the uni fans.
The sad thing is both parks are awesome and have wonderful themes , but some over look uni and thats fine. Its time to get over this ing match and move on.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Just need to say this. I very seldom agree with Jimmy Thick, but he has as much of a right to express his opinion as anyone else on this site (accept Mom, of course).

The calling for a thread to be closed because YOU don't agree with the persons stand is just unbelievable. Even the cowardice of putting people on ignore because your sensitivities cannot handle having someone disagree with YOU is beyond any reasonable comprehension. Ignore can be done without pushing a button, all you have to do is be strong enough to "ignore" it on your own.

There is nothing wrong with a (I hate to use this word, WDW1974 has ruined it for me) spirited discussion of pro's and con's that might make you pause and wonder if your vision is correct or not, but it certainly shouldn't be offensive or in need of a call for burial. Please if you don't want to be part of this or any discussion, without attempting to be massively superior to everyone else, then just move to the next thread. Your contributing your displeasure on the fact that something is posted instead of having a logical response, without insult, to the content is really not much of a contribution. It's like screaming out loud...I MUST HAVE MY WAY!

I have never liked a post better than this one.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Theming is my number 1 reason for putting Disney above all others.

Back when Six Flags had Astroworld in Houston, the theming was so crazy shoddy.

You see that? That's the Bamboo Shoot sitting in front of the Mayan Mindbender. A Chinese pagoda in front of a Meso-American ancient pyramid.

Nothing screams French Polynesia like Persian rugs and camels.

 

[draybook]

Not that I disagree or agree with that quote Empress or with Goofy, but I don't understand the point of calling someone a "coward" for using the ignore feature when we're all strangers posting behind a computer monitor or tablet screen. There's really no form of bravery attached to randomly posting our thoughts on a message board when the recipient(s) are most likely people that we will never meet in person. Even if you met them would you slap them with a glove and challenge them to a duel?

True, Jimmy has the right to speak his mind. Just as people have the right to consider it trolling and request that it be looked in to.