Where in the World Isn't Bob Saget?

PUSH

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Yep, already planning on getting up super early to get in my walk and then spend the day in air conditioning.
I have a training tomorrow in the air conditioned high school. Thankfully it's not at my not air-conditioned building. I can't imagine the custodial staff tomorrow. I think all schools should be required to have AC. Even when it's 85 degrees, I know the kids can't learn if I'm distracted while teaching in those hot rooms.
 

Goofyernmost

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I have a training tomorrow in the air conditioned high school. Thankfully it's not at my not air-conditioned building. I can't imagine the custodial staff tomorrow. I think all schools should be required to have AC. Even when it's 85 degrees, I know the kids can't learn if I'm distracted while teaching in those hot rooms.
Back in the olden days we all got edumacation in non- air conditioned rooms. Some of the old schools had window that opened up and pigeons would fly into the rooms. Of course, back then there wasn't all that much to learn as my signature spells out. Just saying! Or we were much more rugged and tough. I also had my early years in Catholic Schools taught by Nuns in heavy black habits and apparently they had taken a vow of no deodorant. Some days... wow! I'm glad my schooling years were up north otherwise I might have had to drop out.
 

ajrwdwgirl

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I have a training tomorrow in the air conditioned high school. Thankfully it's not at my not air-conditioned building. I can't imagine the custodial staff tomorrow. I think all schools should be required to have AC. Even when it's 85 degrees, I know the kids can't learn if I'm distracted while teaching in those hot rooms.

I hear ya, my school isn't air conditioned either. Our elementary school is and I see from the summer custodial schedule that our custodians are cleaning over there for the next couple of weeks. Smart move on their part!
 

PUSH

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Back in the olden days we all got edumacation in non- air conditioned rooms. Some of the old schools had window that opened up and pigeons would fly into the rooms. Of course, back then there wasn't all that much to learn as my signature spells out. Just saying! Or we were much more rugged and tough. I also had my early years in Catholic Schools taught by Nuns in heavy black habits and apparently they had taken a vow of no deodorant. Some days... wow! I'm glad my schooling years were up north otherwise I might have had to drop out.
Well then, I guess we should continue to have kids work in unsuitable learning conditions. To make it fair and all.
 

PUSH

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I hear ya, my school isn't air conditioned either. Our elementary school is and I see from the summer custodial schedule that our custodians are cleaning over there for the next couple of weeks. Smart move on their part!
Our custodial staff stay in their buildings. So the elementary staff stay at the elementary building, and high school stays at their building, etc. Only with certain things do they all work together, such as last summer when our high school was completely remodeled through a referendum and needed lots of attention. I just wish a fraction of that attention was put into the aging elementary buildings.
 

Goofyernmost

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Well then, I guess we should continue to have kids work in unsuitable learning conditions. To make it fair and all.
How come they are unsuitable now when they were the norm back then. We still got some heavy duty learnin in. Besides that you are in Wisconsin, all you guys get there is about three days a year where you might sweat. No one is in school right now are they? I firmly believe that summer heat is one of the reasons why we had, and still have, most of the summer off. (Plus doing the haying and summer farm chores.) Once every place gets AC then they will be all changing over to year round.;):in pain::)
 

PUSH

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How come they are unsuitable now when they were the norm back then. We still got some heavy duty learnin in. Besides that you are in Wisconsin, all you guys get there is about three days a year where you might sweat. No one is in school right now are they? I firmly believe that summer heat is one of the reasons why we had, and still have, most of the summer off. (Plus doing the haying and summer farm chores.) Once every place gets AC then they will be all changing over to year round.;):in pain::)
Because things evolve over time. AC is a common luxury in modern society, even in northern states. Nobody builds things anymore without AC. As a teacher who works with kids every day, I feel very confident in saying the learning environment strongly affects student achievement. Kids are more likely to succeed when they are comfortable.

We were in summer school last week. By chance the big heat wave came during one of our two week breaks. But even last Monday when I was teaching, you could visibly see the sweat on my back, and the conditions affected my teaching performance. If it affects me as a teacher, it definitely affects the children as learners. We also had temps in the 90s during the regular school year. Every room in the school was running at least one fan, many rooms ran multiple fans 24/7 those weeks, even when we weren't there to try to pull in the cool air from the interior rooms. Early in the year we had days where kids could not go out for recess due to the heat.

As for changing to year round schooling, whether that's a good or bad thing is left up to your own opinion. However, I don't think we will get there. It changes far too much in our cultural routines and procedures. There would be too much push back from too many sources. But that's not the topic we're talking about.
 

MinnieM123

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I have a training tomorrow in the air conditioned high school. Thankfully it's not at my not air-conditioned building. I can't imagine the custodial staff tomorrow. I think all schools should be required to have AC. Even when it's 85 degrees, I know the kids can't learn if I'm distracted while teaching in those hot rooms.

Happy to hear this! I HATE the heat and always have!!

Back in the olden days we all got edumacation in non- air conditioned rooms. Some of the old schools had window that opened up and pigeons would fly into the rooms. Of course, back then there wasn't all that much to learn as my signature spells out. Just saying! Or we were much more rugged and tough. I also had my early years in Catholic Schools taught by Nuns in heavy black habits

We didn't have a/c in our schools either, and some days in June & September were brutal. I was dying inside those hot classrooms, and can guarantee I learned nothing, under those conditions. The teachers were also just ticking off the days required by the state that we had to be in class, and they were also sweating in the heat. Agreed, you were probably tougher and more rugged than me, but I happen to know for a fact that you're a wuss in cold weather, so back atcha! :p

How come they are unsuitable now when they were the norm back then.

This is one area that I approve of "progress". I can only speak for myself, but to me, a/c in summer, is as important as heat in the winter. Note: even my local church (which is ancient), actually converted the lower church to have a/c. Attendance in the summer went way UP after this improvement.

You’ll need to find some asbestos and lead paint too.

:hilarious: OMG--lead paint chips on the wall -- those were a "treat" for some little kids . . . :cautious: (I may or may not know one little kid who tried that once . . . :rolleyes: )

Because things evolve over time. AC is a common luxury in modern society, even in northern states. Nobody builds things anymore without AC. As a teacher who works with kids every day, I feel very confident in saying the learning environment strongly affects student achievement. Kids are more likely to succeed when they are comfortable.

Agree 100% with the above.

Probably should knock down all the interior walls to make it a one room school house, too.

Hey, what's old is "new " again?! :joyfull:
 

Goofyernmost

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Because things evolve over time. AC is a common luxury in modern society, even in northern states. Nobody builds things anymore without AC. As a teacher who works with kids every day, I feel very confident in saying the learning environment strongly affects student achievement. Kids are more likely to succeed when they are comfortable.

We were in summer school last week. By chance the big heat wave came during one of our two week breaks. But even last Monday when I was teaching, you could visibly see the sweat on my back, and the conditions affected my teaching performance. If it affects me as a teacher, it definitely affects the children as learners. We also had temps in the 90s during the regular school year. Every room in the school was running at least one fan, many rooms ran multiple fans 24/7 those weeks, even when we weren't there to try to pull in the cool air from the interior rooms. Early in the year we had days where kids could not go out for recess due to the heat.

As for changing to year round schooling, whether that's a good or bad thing is left up to your own opinion. However, I don't think we will get there. It changes far too much in our cultural routines and procedures. There would be too much push back from too many sources. But that's not the topic we're talking about.
Come on Push, I'm just messing with you. I don't go over 15 feet away from an air conditioner and I remember some pretty miserable stories (case in point, the Nuns) about hot classrooms. Yes, I do believe that they all should be temperature controlled. The heat wave must be getting to you. :confused::happy:
 

Goofyernmost

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Because things evolve over time. AC is a common luxury in modern society, even in northern states. Nobody builds things anymore without AC. As a teacher who works with kids every day, I feel very confident in saying the learning environment strongly affects student achievement. Kids are more likely to succeed when they are comfortable.

We were in summer school last week. By chance the big heat wave came during one of our two week breaks. But even last Monday when I was teaching, you could visibly see the sweat on my back, and the conditions affected my teaching performance. If it affects me as a teacher, it definitely affects the children as learners. We also had temps in the 90s during the regular school year. Every room in the school was running at least one fan, many rooms ran multiple fans 24/7 those weeks, even when we weren't there to try to pull in the cool air from the interior rooms. Early in the year we had days where kids could not go out for recess due to the heat.

As for changing to year round schooling, whether that's a good or bad thing is left up to your own opinion. However, I don't think we will get there. It changes far too much in our cultural routines and procedures. There would be too much push back from too many sources. But that's not the topic we're talking about.
I don't disagree with any of what you said and your first sentence actually explains it all. When I was young air conditioning either didn't exist or it was to expensive for most people. What that meant was that we were aclamented to the temperatures. We lived it 24/7. It bothered us less because it was the norm for us. Try traveling by car to Florida in mid July with no AC and plastic seat covers on the car seats. Or sleeping at night with a 6 inch, one speed, fan being the only method of relief. As for cultural routines and procedures recent history should point out just how quickly those can be blown out of the water.
 

trr1

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Songbird76

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I don't disagree with any of what you said and your first sentence actually explains it all. When I was young air conditioning either didn't exist or it was to expensive for most people. What that meant was that we were aclamented to the temperatures. We lived it 24/7. It bothered us less because it was the norm for us. Try traveling by car to Florida in mid July with no AC and plastic seat covers on the car seats. Or sleeping at night with a 6 inch, one speed, fan being the only method of relief. As for cultural routines and procedures recent history should point out just how quickly those can be blown out of the water.
I don't know if it bothered people less, or that we just didn't know any better. We don't have ac over here in most places. Homes, schools, offices often don't have it. My husband is an HVAC engineer, so they actually DO have it in their office, and stores usually have it. But the hospital, for example, does not. Even the brand new school building that they just opened this school year doesn't have it. What we have at home is a fan in each of our bedrooms, and I tell ya, I'm not at all acclamated to the heat despite not having AC. My workplace doesn't have it, and when it's hot outside, the upstairs can get well above 100 degrees. I think last year, or maybe it was 2 years ago, during a heatwave, it was measured at 110 degrees. It's miserable...and they still expect us to walk back and forth, lift, etc. When I get home, I just want to take a cold bath because that's the only way I have to cool off. And most people here don't have bathtubs....I don't know how those people survive the heat!!
 

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