JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
That's limited in service areas ... to start anyway. Three resorts, two parks.
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Goofyernmost
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They usually have a location, but, it isn't going to change anything, they still have to be loaded first and unless they send out a special vehicle (they won't) then people just have to lighten up and understand that they have priority and usually only have two scooters or wheelchair locations in the buses and if they are available they must be used for that purpose. It's the law, not just a whim, but, man I have to wonder about a country that is occupied by people with no compassion at all and are so self involved that they would rather see a handicapped person not loaded then to try and understand why they must be. Dealing with ADA people would never allow a standard lineup when there are only two spaces available on each bus as opposed to 55 able bodied.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
It's not the scooters/wheelchairs per se - it's the entourage of up to 8 people who get to automatically jump the queue as well. How about 1 or 2 extra people per scooter/wheelchair, and everyone else waits their turn in line. If that means waiting for the next bus, then that's what it means.
Like I said, I don't know what the solution is, but the current system can be very unfair to people who have already waited 20+ minutes, just to have their spots taken by able bodied people who just happen to be with the scooter/wheelchair.
Once a trip? No big deal. Twice? Starting to be irksome. More than than, people start to do a slow burn, and the resentment towards scooters and to a lesser extent wheelchairs, blows out of proportion.
We rent a car specifically because I am not a fan of Disney transportation in general. I'd like to try out the gondolas for fun though.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
MinnieM123
Premium Member
I don't think it's a lack of compassion from most people. (Most people are probably unfamiliar with the ADA bus law anyway.) I think they do want handicapped people to board, but within a reasonable amount of time waiting in queues, just like others. I'm sure you won't agree with anything I say here, but my heart also goes out to families with children, who may be tired and cranky, and are having meltdowns from long waits and the heat. I'd just like to see some sort of reasonable compromise in the queue lines.
Yet, due to the limited number of seats available for handicapped, the handicapped probably shouldn't wait as long as able bodied guests; but I do think that they should not be automatically boarded on the first bus that arrives. I believe they need two separate queues for the buses.
If more buses were provided, this situation would resolve itself without any guests getting frustrated.
I know some handicapped people at work, and the few that I've talked to about this type of situation, told me directly that they do not want (what appears to be) any special attention, head of the line stuff. They far prefer to "blend in" and not have their disability "show", so they prefer to just queue up with others in line. Please note they had not been to WDW--they were just expressing their thoughts in general day to day living.
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
I understand that but, with limited locations for them to ride in, that just isn't possible. They have to be loaded first because trying to load a chair or a scooter with a bus full of people would easily create a situation of many injuries happening. People would be in the way. Like I said, unless they provided a completely independent vehicle to transport people to their exact locations, this is the only way the law will allow. We all know that isn't going to happen.
It's just something that those of us that are able bodied can be upset about and then thankful that we are able to wait without adverse problems. I'd much rather stand there for another bus then be required to ride in the handicapped section of a bus. They are also the last to get off, but, no one wants to think about that.
I know that no one is conscientiously thinking that "those people are evil", but, except for the grace of god goes every single one of us. We would like people to be a little understanding if that same situation comes into our lives.
Lucky
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Ideally those would take some pressure off the buses and reduce wait times. We'll see.
trr1
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that will be on the next Fast pass+ upgrade
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
I scratched an itch today ... a 13+ year old itch!
Every time I go to the allergy clinic for my shots, I drive past the street of my dad's good friend who stabbed him in the back. I haven't seen or heard from this guy since June 2004, and my mother was freaking out that he might have the nerve to show up to my dad's funeral. (He didn't.)
Anyway, today I turned down his street, drove past his house, did the "Wullerton spit"; and will probably never think of his lying, thieving, self again.
Every time I go to the allergy clinic for my shots, I drive past the street of my dad's good friend who stabbed him in the back. I haven't seen or heard from this guy since June 2004, and my mother was freaking out that he might have the nerve to show up to my dad's funeral. (He didn't.)
Anyway, today I turned down his street, drove past his house, did the "Wullerton spit"; and will probably never think of his lying, thieving, self again.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
No castle crane yet? They're probably waiting until I get there.
NYwdwfan
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Yeah - no crane yet. I was expecting to see it.
