Where in the World is Bob Saget?

[englanddg]

And I thought my high school was bad...I mean, the bathrooms were terrible and half the school has no air conditioning, not to mention it's just plain dirty, but at least we had new textbooks, computers, supplies, even money to distribute a school paper every month. The only reason we have technology in school is because the superintendent is young and into it

And this is the exact reason to not have it at all.

 

[Nemo14]

I do.

 

[PUSH]

Oh gosh. Seriously, let students pay for their own technology...there are enough student discounts and such out there. If students really want a tablet (like I did, btw, I love it) they'll find ways to get one.

The schools I applied to had general merit-based scholarships, and my weighted GPA was really high, so I applied to six schools, five of them offered me money, one offered me a free ride, but I didn't take it because the school has a horrible reputation and the only reason I applied was because it was my dad's alma mater, he forced me to, and I needed a back up. Thank goodness when I went and interviewed at my school before even applying they said, "Uh, we really really want you."

The reason they bought the iPads was because not every student has access to a computer/tablet outside of school. And it's true that there are people who can't afford them, but the school offers plenty of other options. And it's not realistic to spend $700,000+ for 4 grades to get them (they'll be expanding grades every year).

And they iPads aren't just given to them for good, they have to return them after every school year. Just to have that noted.

 

[englanddg]

I am against digital print in learning environments being the norm for one reason (and I'm about to demontrate it)...

I really think that George Washington had wooden woodpecker?

Reply that you saw this message...and then I will show you why it's a potentially dangerous medium (and no, this isn't about conspiracy, I'll explain after the demonstration).

 

[Nemo14]

That is in line with my frustrations...

I will leave it at that for now. If you continue this line of conversation, I will unload about how computers, in particular, actually are a disservice to students, offering them less satisfaction for their accomplishments which has a spiral mass psychological impact, as they are increasingly immature.

It also removes a tool for teachers for every "tool" it adds, with out being a net gain, thereby causing further discipline and general disruption issues by creating faulty "community support".

Not to mention how it ignores core development of base thinking, which is required for higher level thinking. Over-saturation of mindless entertainment and easy, but mindless, information eventually catches up with you. There's a reason that a well respected news anchor thinks an office joke of "tampon earrings" is a good idea to do on air, regardless of how you feel about her "message"...in fact, it's even worse that she thought it made a bold political statement at all...

</rant before I eat up another 200 lines>

Sheesh, I could write a whole disseration about it.ing tools (not providing them) from teachers, and eliminating administrations understanding of what the final mission of a general liberal arts education is.

I could literally talk for hours about this. There's a whole movement in education now that is turning out a generation of kids whose lives are dependent on a keyboard or screen. They have no life experiences because they live in their technology, and they have no resoning or analytical skills, because everything is done for them if they push the right button.

 

[PUSH]

I am against digital print in learning environments being the norm for one reason (and I'm about to demontrate it)...

I really think that George Washington had wooden teeth.

Reply that you saw this message...and then I will show you why it's a potentially dangerous medium (and no, this isn't about conspiracy, I'll explain after the demonstration).

I'm afraid to reply.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Oh yeah, the policy was that the air conditioning couldn't be turned on until it reached 80 degrees outside. But yet the principal's offices and superintendent's office was always air conditioned. In a photography class I had, it was literally below 60 degrees in that room at all times during the winter.

We had nice computers and supplies, but there was one set of laptops that only one teacher was allowed to use. They didn't have to check them out, they were just for them. And then the rest of the teachers couldn't use them unless they asked that teacher. And a lot of the supplies were bought by teachers. They have a budget, but it's not much.

*facepalms*

Our air-conditioning was centrally controlled, so it was turned on after a certain day. So if we had a hot day in March (not unheard of in MD) oh, sorry, no air. Or if we had a cool day in May (also not unheard of) it would get too cool. But then some of the rooms, like the computer labs, library, and guidance, had their own units. The only benefit was that if it got above 90 degrees before 10 am, we would get out early. And since I have asthma, when my schedule was done, effort was made to put me in air-conditioned sections. And my rooms got thoroughly cleaned once a week (why they didn't do this anyway is beyond me). I didn't always get into the air-conditioned areas, but if they had the option between two classes, one air-conditioned and one not, I got in the air conditioned one.
By the time I was a Senior, we had five computer labs, a publications lab for creative writing, journalism, and yearbook, computers in the library, plus several sets of netbooks that teachers could sign out. But my Spanish teacher still preferred tape recorders

Oh well, I'm in college now, most of the buildings are new and the older ones have still been updated. At least since my college charges a lot in tuition they have a lot of student services and newer buildings. In fact, I think they're building another one. Science one I believe.

 

[Nemo14]

I am against digital print in learning environments being the norm for one reason (and I'm about to demontrate it)...

I really think that George Washington had wooden teeth.

Reply that you saw this message...and then I will show you why it's a potentially dangerous medium (and no, this isn't about conspiracy, I'll explain after the demonstration).

"I saw this message"

 

[englanddg]

"I saw this message"

Check my message now.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

And this is the exact reason to not have it at all.

I don't mind some of it. Youtube got unblocked for teachers last year, which is helpful (as you probably know), the computers have paid databases that are useful for research projects, the Elmo's are far better than overheads (not to mention save money in the long run), the school's website allows teachers to post assignments online, which is good if you're absent, and the internet allowed my Spanish teacher to get resources she wouldn't normally get. I don't think my school really overdid it, though for homework, my computer was necessary most nights. Why they couldn't keep the Wifi up is a mystery to me

 

[englanddg]

Check my message now.

Check my message now.

 

[PUSH]

I could literally talk for hours about this. There's a whole movement in education now that is turning out a generation of kids whose lives are dependent on a keyboard or screen. They have no life experiences because they live in their technology, and they have no resoning or analytical skills, because everything is done for them if they push the right button.

I think as far as school is concerned, technology can be a great thing, but it has to be used right. You can't just assign assignments that ask questions like "What year did the American Revolution start?" Because then the student just looks it up and does nothing else.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

I could literally talk for hours about this. There's a whole movement in education now that is turning out a generation of kids whose lives are dependent on a keyboard or screen. They have no life experiences because they live in their technology, and they have no resoning or analytical skills, because everything is done for them if they push the right button.

Example: More teens are not getting their drivers licenses because they are more connected to each other via social media. Some of my peers graduated without a license. Seriously, I can understand parents making their kids wait, but being just too lazy to go get one?

 

[englanddg]

I don't mind some of it. Youtube got unblocked for teachers last year, which is helpful (as you probably know), the computers have paid databases that are useful for research projects, the Elmo's are far better than overheads (not to mention save money in the long run), the school's website allows teachers to post assignments online, which is good if you're absent, and the internet allowed my Spanish teacher to get resources she wouldn't normally get. I don't think my school really overdid it, though for homework, my computer was necessary most nights. Why they couldn't keep the Wifi up is a mystery to me

No. No. And No.
Lazy research makes for lazy presentation makes for lazy instruction.

The internet is grand, I love it, I've been on it a very long time (longer than you have been alive, in one form or another)...

But, it is not a substitute for a real education.

 

[PUSH]

I am against digital print in learning environments being the norm for one reason (and I'm about to demontrate it)...

I really think that George Washington had wooden woodpecker?

Reply that you saw this message...and then I will show you why it's a potentially dangerous medium (and no, this isn't about conspiracy, I'll explain after the demonstration).

saw this message.

(Meant to say that in the other post.)

 

[StarWarsGirl]

I think as far as school is concerned, technology can be a great thing, but it has to be used right. You can't just assign assignments that ask questions like "What year did the American Revolution start?" Because then the student just looks it up and does nothing else.

You're right, it can be useful. But it also allows for cheating. Although I had a really bad physics teacher, and before that a bad algebra 2 teacher, and the internet got me through both of those classes

 

[StarWarsGirl]

No. No. And No.
Lazy research makes for lazy presentation makes for lazy instruction.

The internet is grand, I love it, I've been on it a very long time (longer than you have been alive, in one form or another)...

But, it is not a substitute for a real education.

No one in my high school replaces the internet with education. Even students (high achieving ones at least) want the actual instruction time and will complain if they feel like they aren't getting it. And the databases are by no means free information; you really had to read the information to put together the presentation. Like encyclopedias basically, but cheaper for the school.

 

[PUSH]

No. No. And No.
Lazy research makes for lazy presentation makes for lazy instruction.

The internet is grand, I love it, I've been on it a very long time (longer than you have been alive, in one form or another)...

But, it is not a substitute for a real education.

There's nothing more boring and less involving than a video someone shows you on YouTube. Even an educational video doesn't help me learn. It's only going to teach me if I enjoy that topic, which most of the times I don't.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

There's nothing more boring and less involving than a video someone shows you on YouTube. Even an educational video doesn't help me learn. It's only going to teach me if I enjoy that topic, which most of the times I don't.

Hmm...you and I are opposites then. I pay better attention to instructional videos for some reason. Especially in science. Oh, and for AP Economics, there were review videos of just the graphs. We had to look them up on our own time, but it was really straightforward and helpful

 

[PUSH]

The year after I finished with this one math teacher (mainly geometry), she went to a "flip the classroom" style learning. If you don't know what that is, it's where you learn outside of school and do homework during class time. I know, doesn't make sense at all, but it is becoming more prominent throughout the country. So she had YouTube videos telling you how to do the problems, and then you'd work on homework the next day in class. And the real reason she did it is because she's lazy and is only a teacher so she can have her summers off. She only has a minor in math, too. Her major was in PE. Oh, and she didn't know how to do the math half the time. We had to teacher her sometimes... literally.