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PUSH

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Hmm...you and I are opposites then. I pay better attention to instructional videos for some reason. Especially in science. Oh, and for AP Economics, there were review videos of just the graphs. We had to look them up on our own time, but it was really straightforward and helpful

You have to have an interactive environment, too. I had one history teacher who literally read from the textbook every day. Every now and then he'd tell stories about history, and it was so much more interesting.
 

StarWarsGirl

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The year after I finished with this one math teacher (mainly geometry), she went to a "flip the classroom" style learning. If you don't know what that is, it's where you learn outside of school and do homework during class time. I know, doesn't make sense at all, but it is becoming more prominent throughout the country. So she had YouTube videos telling you how to do the problems, and then you'd work on homework the next day in class. And the real reason she did it is because she's lazy and is only a teacher so she can have her summers off. She only has a minor in math, too. Her major was in PE. Oh, and she didn't know how to do the math half the time. We had to teacher her sometimes... literally.

*facepalms* That woman would get fired in Baltimore County Public schools. Some of the newer textbooks come with review videos, which was nice especially if you were absent or just didn't quite get it in class, but as a replacement for learning? My next door neighbor went to a private school and the teacher literally didn't teach. She learned math because her mom majored in it.
 

Nemo14

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The year after I finished with this one math teacher (mainly geometry), she went to a "flip the classroom" style learning. If you don't know what that is, it's where you learn outside of school and do homework during class time. I know, doesn't make sense at all, but it is becoming more prominent throughout the country. So she had YouTube videos telling you how to do the problems, and then you'd work on homework the next day in class. And the real reason she did it is because she's lazy and is only a teacher so she can have her summers off. She only has a minor in math, too. Her major was in PE. Oh, and she didn't know how to do the math half the time. We had to teacher her sometimes... literally.


Unfortunately, math teachers are so rare that schools end up hiring less-than-qualified candidates who really don't "get" math - they just think it's an easy thing to teach. I've had to undo more faulty thinking from kids who were taught by some of them!
 

PUSH

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*facepalms* That woman would get fired in Baltimore County Public schools. Some of the newer textbooks come with review videos, which was nice especially if you were absent or just didn't quite get it in class, but as a replacement for learning? My next door neighbor went to a private school and the teacher literally didn't teach. She learned math because her mom majored in it.

She should get fired here. I don't know why she hasn't, the law changes in the past few years allow it now. And I guess I didn't specify that she created the videos. But still, she won't have to teach another lesson for the rest of the life.
 

englanddg

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*facepalms* That woman would get fired in Baltimore County Public schools. Some of the newer textbooks come with review videos, which was nice especially if you were absent or just didn't quite get it in class, but as a replacement for learning? My next door neighbor went to a private school and the teacher literally didn't teach. She learned math because her mom majored in it.

Because, teachers never teach. And there is never any politics involved. And students are always willing and enthusiastic to learn.

Especially the boring stuff.

<fist pumps>
 

StarWarsGirl

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You have to have an interactive environment, too. I had one history teacher who literally read from the textbook every day. Every now and then he'd tell stories about history, and it was so much more interesting.

Oh geez. My AP World teacher was really boring. I dropped back to honors the next year, and my teacher was awesome. He had so much energy and brought history to our level. He was awesome, and terrible with technology so he never used it. The next year I had him for screenwriting and had to show him how to play DVDs half the time. Or use the online screenwriting software (kind of necessary for that class)
 

StarWarsGirl

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She should get fired here. I don't know why she hasn't, the law changes in the past few years allow it now. And I guess I didn't specify that she created the videos. But still, she won't have to teach another lesson for the rest of the life.

*shakes head*. Thankfully, my geometry teacher was better. She was sassy; it was funny. But she knew how to teach. And then I had the same teacher for trig and for college algebra, which was good because she had a masters in math and was able to explain it. Although randomly she would turn around and say, "Isn't this fun?" Uh, no.
 

PUSH

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Unfortunately, math teachers are so rare that schools end up hiring less-than-qualified candidates who really don't "get" math - they just think it's an easy thing to teach. I've had to undo more faulty thinking from kids who were taught by some of them!

It's sad how rare some content areas are. Math and science are subjects nobody wants to teach, and a lot of them that don't don't have good teaching skills. At least that's how it was in my high school, three of the four teachers knew exactly how to do every math problem, but two of the three couldn't get the students interested or just didn't have the ability to get it into their brains. I have only had one math teacher who actually had me get an A in her class without me having to get extra help. It was 7th grade, and I had an A every quarter except for when she had twins. I had a C with her replacement (he wasn't a math teacher). It's actually kind of weird how I remember all of that. :confused:

I am not good at math, not terrible, but a low B student. I know I wasn't always giving it my all, but I shouldn't leave class completely clueless either.
 

PUSH

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Because, teachers never teach. And there is never any politics involved. And students are always willing and enthusiastic to learn.

Especially the boring stuff.

<fist pumps>

I'm going out on a limb here, especially since this is such a sore subject for many Wisconsin people, but politics have ruined education. I'll leave it at that for sake of staying on these forums. :p
 

StarWarsGirl

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It's sad how rare some content areas are. Math and science are subjects nobody wants to teach, and a lot of them that don't don't have good teaching skills. At least that's how it was in my high school, three of the four teachers knew exactly how to do every math problem, but two of the three couldn't get the students interested or just didn't have the ability to get it into their brains. I have only had one math teacher who actually had me get an A in her class without me having to get extra help. It was 7th grade, and I had an A every quarter except for when she had twins. I had a C with her replacement (he wasn't a math teacher). It's actually kind of weird how I remember all of that. :confused:

I am not good at math, not terrible, but a low B student. I know I wasn't always giving it my all, but I shouldn't leave class completely clueless either.

Funny, we don't seem to have that problem over here. I've had generally very good math teachers. My only bad one was Algebra 2.

The other trig teacher was bad, but it was because the guy was a genius. He had a masters in English but taught trig, and didn't know how to explain trig. He would get mad if a student asked a question. Thankfully my trig teacher was better. She could get cranky, especially since she was pregnant both years I had her, but she was really good.

My economics teacher was the worst of the two. She could not control her class. There were 34 students, it was last in the day, and she was just clueless. I don't think it really hurt me; I got a 5 on Micro and 4 on Macro, but some of my classmates weren't so fortunate.
 

Nemo14

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My degree is in math, as is my husband's. My daughter teaches high school sciences. I dare say the 3 of us are good teachers, and I know my former students would agree. We love teaching, and you have to love it to do what we do. Any of the 3 of us could have jobs in private industry making double or triple the salaries we made as teachers, but we chose to be teachers because it's what we love. Unfortunately not every teacher goes into it with the same attitude.
 

StarWarsGirl

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Well, I'd love to continue talking about education and schools and such with you all, but I'm going to Hershey Park tomorrow and my mom said the chariot leaves at 8 am with or without me, so I should get some sleep. Night!
 

englanddg

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Let me put it this way...I interview Comp Sci majors, and the first thing I ask them to do is to explain IPv4 (not v6, which is even more complex) in binary on a whiteboard...(after getting burned a lot)...

I get a 99% "blank stare" from people with MASTERS degrees in it.

There are other tests...but, lets just say...education ain't what it used to be, and technology is part of the reason.

I hate to pull a "back in my day" moment, my education system was just as screwed up, and we hated our teachers, and facilities and schools, etc...because, guess what...youth is always youth.
 

PUSH

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My degree is in math, as is my husband's. My daughter teaches high school sciences. I dare say the 3 of us are good teachers, and I know my former students would agree. We love teaching, and you have to love it to do what we do. Any of the 3 of us could have jobs in private industry making double or triple the salaries we made as teachers, but we chose to be teachers because it's what we love. Unfortunately not every teacher goes into it with the same attitude.

I'm going into teaching. I've thought about business, actually it's what I always envisioned doing through high school. I took every business class there was practically, and I enjoyed it. But as I was a senior and thinking about what I wanted to do, I couldn't help but think that that wasn't the life I wanted. It just didn't seem enjoyable to go to an office every day. Then I thought about teaching and I enjoy the idea of having my own classroom full of students. I enjoy the idea of helping them learn. I know the salaries aren't like the business world, but I would give that up for an enjoyable career.
 

englanddg

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Funny, we don't seem to have that problem over here. I've had generally very good math teachers. My only bad one was Algebra 2.

The other trig teacher was bad, but it was because the guy was a genius. He had a masters in English but taught trig, and didn't know how to explain trig. He would get mad if a student asked a question. Thankfully my trig teacher was better. She could get cranky, especially since she was pregnant both years I had her, but she was really good.

My economics teacher was the worst of the two. She could not control her class. There were 34 students, it was last in the day, and she was just clueless. I don't think it really hurt me; I got a 5 on Micro and 4 on Macro, but some of my classmates weren't so fortunate.
I doesn't matter what you think he knows, it's a matter of what YOU know after taking his class.
 

englanddg

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I'm going into teaching. I've thought about business, actually it's what I always envisioned doing through high school. I took every business class there was practically, and I enjoyed it. But as I was a senior and thinking about what I wanted to do, I couldn't help but think that that wasn't the life I wanted. It just didn't seem enjoyable to go to an office every day. Then I thought about teaching and I enjoy the idea of having my own classroom full of students. I enjoy the idea of helping them learn. I know the salaries aren't like the business world, but I would give that up for an enjoyable career.
I did...because of the politics.
 

StarWarsGirl

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I doesn't matter what you think he knows, it's a matter of what YOU know after taking his class.

Very true, he did not teach and got mad if questions were asked. Thankfully, I didn't have him, I only know this because multiple people told me the same thing. Anyway, I'm pleased with the education I got in high school. I go into college with 15 credits to start out with, I speak another language (even though my Spanish 4 teacher was bad, my Spanish 5 and 6 teachers caught me up), and most of my teachers, well, taught. I had very few bad ones.

Anyway, I do have to get some sleep. And I won't be around tomorrow. Bye!
 
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