When are you going to fix that yeti?

danlb_2000

Premium Member

Hey, if you watch this video, it's one of my favorites on the yeti. i would post this in the "yeti thread" but i don't want to. :hilarious: It explains what happened to the yeti and when/why it will be fixed if it does get fixed.


It theorizes what is wrong, it does not give a definitive answer. Reliable source here have indicated that there is nothing wrong with the foundation and that the Yeti could be fixed without extended downtime of the ride.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Yeah, that's actually the first time I've heard mention of the 4d CAD program being responsible for the foundation issues, not sure if it's true, but does make sense.
Their explanation does not makes sense. Scheduling and sequencing are traditionally the responsibility of the contractor. Concrete that is going to be under significant loads should be tested, not just assumed to be ready based on a computer estimate. This is the sort of error that would have resulted in a lawsuit against the contractor.
 

...it's a yungle

Well-Known Member
First, thank you Border Patrol for the work you do.
Second, in reference to this agent, as Bill Murray said in Stripes..."I wanna party with you!"

(Thought bubble above this agents head in car on drive home after work)
-Morning cup of Java from the airport coffee bar...$5
-Lunch at the airport food court...$10
-The opportunity to have the undivided attention of Joe Rohde for 30 seconds,
and with a stone cold, expressionless face, close his passport, slide it back to him,
look him in the eye and politely ask, "When are you gonna fix that Yeti?"...priceless
:cool:
 

Maddie Terwilliger

Active Member
It theorizes what is wrong, it does not give a definitive answer. Reliable source here have indicated that there is nothing wrong with the foundation and that the Yeti could be fixed without extended downtime of the ride.
Their explanation does not makes sense. Scheduling and sequencing are traditionally the responsibility of the contractor. Concrete that is going to be under significant loads should be tested, not just assumed to be ready based on a computer estimate. This is the sort of error that would have resulted in a lawsuit against the contractor.
You don't have to rain on people's parade my friend.
I like the video, and I have chosen to believe the information they give. Not all of it, but some.
I don't know your "reliable sources". I have not seen them, I have not heard them. So if you're going to criticize my comments at least do it correctly and tell me who the "reliable sources" are and what their opinions are.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
You don't have to rain on people's parade my friend.
I like the video, and I have chosen to believe the information they give. Not all of it, but some.
I don't know your "reliable sources". I have not seen them, I have not heard them. So if you're going to criticize my comments at least do it correctly and tell me who the "reliable sources" are and what their opinions are.

We are not "Raining on peoples parade" we are just cautioning them against accepting this as gospel, this is how urban legends get perpetuated. As someone else pointed out, @marni1971 has debunked some of these reasons for the Yeti being broken in the past and you don't come much more trusted then that. Personally, I think this post has the most plausible explination and it has a strong provenance...

I've been meaning to post this for quite a while, but just haven't had time. Thanks to a recent reminder from @Master Yoda to try and shed some light on the Yeti debacle....

Ok, so back in September I was at a conference at WDW, and the wife decided to book a Dine With An Imagineer lunch at DHS. I skipped one of my educational sessions to do this, and we ended up with a 2-for-1. The main imagineer was a Show Design and Production manager, who was a DWAI veteran (and most recently involved in the Frozen Ever After project); the other guy was a mechanical engineer in charge of show quality, who was a newbie-in-training, at least when it came to these dinners. He explained to us that it was his job to do periodic "reviews" of the rides, and point out areas where show quality is falling below certain standards. He's also heavily involved in maintaining ride systems and animatronics. It was a fantastic experience, and we learned a lot about how things work behind the scenes, but nearing the end of our time, I (obviously) couldn't resist bringing up the Yeti.

Immediately upon my mentioning the Yeti, I could see that it was an obvious a sore spot for him. He stated that there have been multiple proposals put forth for repairing it, but none of the "big shots" have been on board. As for the specific problem, he mentioned that there are a couple of factors: flaws in the original "design calculations" (these were his words), particularly with regard to operational and maintenance conditions on such a large animatronic, and inability to perform proper maintenance on the Yeti. No mention of "shifting/failed foundations" as is often suggested. As a practicing structural engineer, I wanted to know whether this was the problem, and he indicated that the main issue is the animatronic itself.

The other factor is the ability to perform maintenance on the animatronic. I think this is the source of rumors that they "can't replace /fix it without opening up the mountain" rumors, but it's actually much simpler, and this issue ties into the first. He specifically talked about unanticipated stresses in parts of the animatronic due to lack of maintenance in other parts. If one of the motors in the yeti's elbow wears out or isn't functioning properly, but they continue to operate under those conditions, then higher stresses are transferred to the shoulder and chest, etc. My best guess regarding his comments about "incorrect calculations" is that he was referring to fatigue related problems in the robotic parts, and possibly in other structural supports.

The other major factor is that things have changed dramatically at WDW in the last few years regarding their compliance with OSHA standards for maintenance and fall protection. Any new work done to get the Yeti operational means that they have to update the design to meet these standards, so that ongoing maintenance on the animatronic can be safely performed. This would involve major upgrades to allow compliance with fall protection and other things related to maintenance workers.

It was encouraging at least to see how much it bothered him that it didn't work. He brought up the Universal dig re: their Kong animatronic (it moves...) and said that he and his colleagues all read blogs and other social media comments for research and to pick up on things they miss in their reviews. So, there you have it. Take it for what it's worth, but this guy was no bus driver...;)
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
You don't have to rain on people's parade my friend.
I like the video, and I have chosen to believe the information they give. Not all of it, but some.
I don't know your "reliable sources". I have not seen them, I have not heard them. So if you're going to criticize my comments at least do it correctly and tell me who the "reliable sources" are and what their opinions are.
So you would rather believe something that is factually suspect than have someone “rain on your parade”? Pointing at the dubious nature of information that you share, and is widely repeated, is not a criticism of you.
 

Maddie Terwilliger

Active Member
We are not "Raining on peoples parade" we are just cautioning them against accepting this as gospel, this is how urban legends get perpetuated. As someone else pointed out, @marni1971 has debunked some of these reasons for the Yeti being broken in the past and you don't come much more trusted then that. Personally, I think this post has the most plausible explination and it has a strong provenance...
Thank you for providing this post to me.
I'm sorry for getting upset, I thought at first you were trying to criticize my words on the subject.
 

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