What's the deal with Ariel?

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
But this thread is more Disney related fun than I've had in the past year! And @Jimmy Thick had one of the best posts EVER SEEN on this subject
and of his entire life? Ba dum tish!

Hey, you think this is bad, one message board I go to had a very long, VERY in-depth discussion about the reproductive cycle of centaurs.


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I can't believe this conversation is actually happening.


I think the severe drought of new...anything coming from wdw had gone to our heads.

And, possibly fins.

Lack of information leads to speculation then to imagination going rampant.
Perhaps we will invent the time machine if we continue like this.

In other news, remember that kung fu hustle and this movie are the best kung fu spoofs ever..

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ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
and of his entire life? Ba dum tish!




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Lack of information leads to speculation then to imagination going rampant.
Perhaps we will invent the time machine if we continue like this.

In other news, remember that kung fu hustle and this movie are the best kung fu spoofs ever..

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I'd have to vote for Slapshot for best sports movie spoof

 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
The Queue is really fantastic...the actual ride is the letdown. it's too tight a layout and too short a ride.... Even with that, I think it is totally fixable with lighting and some additional props... they just have to care enough about it to make it happen...which it appears they don't.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
How? I understand the whole red tape issue, but does imagineering really cost the company that much to develop a minor dark ride? If so changes need to be made.
The is a wonderful post floating around here by @whylightbulb that explains the situation quite well. Everything from the love of meetings about meetings about meetings at Walt Disney Imagineering to hired firms essentially doing work for free to secure a contract with Universal Creative.
 

Sped2424

Well-Known Member
The is a wonderful post floating around here by @whylightbulb that explains the situation quite well. Everything from the love of meetings about meetings about meetings at Walt Disney Imagineering to hired firms essentially doing work for free to secure a contract with Universal Creative.
Thank you! Sorry to ask but you wouldn't happen to remember the thread it was in? I can't believe I have never heard of that poster on here before! Seems to know his stuff very much so!
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Thank you! Sorry to ask but you wouldn't happen to remember the thread it was in? I can't believe I have never heard of that poster on here before! Seems to know his stuff very much so!
Here is the post:

The answer to this question is complicated. Basically, Universal spends about 20 to 25 percent of an attraction's development budget on soft costs (design, admin, management etc.). Disney can go up to 30 to 40 percent in some cases. The reasons, in part, for Disney's higher soft costs are R&D as well as layers of wasted management labor costs. Universal will rely heavily on "free" work from its vendors to bid on a much less developed concept design package. The vendors will have to develop these bid packages to the point that Disney would have released its bid packages (whether these bid packages are going in-house or out to a sub makes no difference). For the Universal vendors to get these design documents up to the point of putting in a decent bid they will need to dedicate some resources to flesh out the basic concepts communicated from Creative Studios in minimal drawings and beat lists etc. So what ends up happening is UC gets a lot of free design work because these vendors want the job and will develop the basic concepts to a level that they can estimate budget and schedule requirements. Disney will have already gotten that far before submitting its bid packages.

As far as red tape and bureaucracy Disney wins big time on that one. Universal has its fair share but WDI's bloated management structure and recent history of hiring lower grade talent, just because they may hold more college degrees for example (I am positive that, were he alive today, if Walt Disney himself were to apply at WDI he would be turned down), makes Disney extremely inefficient.

The fact that WDI allocates a much higher percentage of project resources to R&D also adds to their higher costs.

There are more reasons but that will give you a start in understanding the differences.
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
The Queue is really fantastic...the actual ride is the letdown. it's too tight a layout and too short a ride.... Even with that, I think it is totally fixable with lighting and some additional props... they just have to care enough about it to make it happen...which it appears they don't.
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YOU READ IT HERE FOLKS!

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