I got the sarcasm.It was sarcasm. I forgot I am not allowed to use that here.
Guess I've been spending too much time in these forums, haha!
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What's Still On and What's Now Off
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Guess I've been spending too much time in these forums, haha!
TrainsOfDisney
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So? All options are on the table right now. The thing could be totally defunded and rot in place, be built as planned, significantly delayed, or built and open as something very different than originally proposed.
I think the only options which need to be discussed are whether the OP was fed wrong info or made up wrong info.
UNCgolf
Well-Known Member
Martin has been liking his recent posts, which makes me think Martin has heard some of the same things. But who knows?
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Yeah I’m not sure why anyone wants to doubt him... and for sure we aren’t going to doubt Martin.
The trouble with insider stuff is even things that are announced can be changed. Right now there have to be all sorts of plans going on internally.
Ravenclaw78
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He could be right. He could be wrong. If he hadn't spent the last year telling us every couple of weeks that his insider contacts said Kathleen Kennedy was being fired tomorrow and RotR was going to be rethemed to the OT overnight if Rise of Skywalker bombed, he might have more credibility. When he has been right, it's usually after Martin or another insider already posted the same thing, or something that's a logical conclusion from already publicly-known data but he gets to tell us a fancy codename for it. But yes, sometimes his contacts actually exist and tell him stuff we haven't already heard. Even a stopped clock...
This is what I personally believe will happen with the Star Wars "hotel".
The OP generally has good intel. Though some of it is shaky since it has gone through several people. And he doesn't always distinguish between things that are pretty definite and things that are a bit iffy. And we all know Disney changes things all the time (o hai! Main Street Theater!). And he adds in his own surmisings, which is rolling the dice there. (o hai! Jim-Hill-ism!).
But he's not just making stuff up (other than those things which are his own guesswork). This is not a Disnerd situation who just wanted to stir the pot. Nor is it a vlogger that has to put out content on a regular basis and reaches for straws.
A list of what park management was going to do when they thought they'd be open in a few weeks is almost certainly (my surmisings here) very different than what they wind up doing when it takes them a few months to open instead. Such a plan, as much as it may have actually reflected the thought at the time, is most certainly likely to change over time.
Magic Feather
Well-Known Member
This is a good expectation
When I first started making friend that were comfortable sharing info with me, I’ll be the first to admit that I mishandled some things. Sometimes I would misinterpret a clue they gave me and post it as fact, sometimes I would get my wires crossed (thinking back to my embarrassing moment where I thought Supercharged was going into Kidzone), and, most of all, I would be guilty of taking a small bit of concrete info and extending it beyond facts. These are some trends that I *think* I am seeing happen with you @WDW Pro . For anyone doubting their knowledge, I can very clearly see things within their posts that are accurate and could not be guessed. However, I can see how things were misconstrued. For instance (while I could very well have my info mixed up, I have strong reason to believe) that some of the internal targets stated by @WDW Pro were somewhat misinterpreted, and were likely a conclusion drawn out of some other misapplied info.
Simply put, the way the parks have been proposed to be operating is different enough from the normal to where it could mess with that perception. Another example being how *some* of the secure circuit effects they shared were correct, the real root of why that may happen is far from discussed (Think back to Iger’s statement). However, I’ll admit that Pro said it best, when they said “Absolutely nothing is set at this moment, and precisely because there are too many variables for Disney at the moment.”
When I have info, I always try to throw in a subject to change disclaimer, but that has never been more true than it is today, so please keep that in mind as you read these forums until we are within a week of WDW beginning to resume operations.
Good intel perhaps, questionable judgement and presentation definitely. One major difference between the OP and other insiders is that for the most part (with the exception of 74) the focus on the information was never about themselves, it was the information presented. Additionally there has been no direct corroboration on some of items by anyone else in the know. While items listed sound plausible given the circumstances there isn’t that yeah I heard that too. Something as big as keeping Epcot closed or shutting down water parks would surely be confirmed by others, but it doesn’t appear to have been. It also bears striking similarities to things posted on the Distwitter when the shutdowns first happened. Additionally there are already things happening that go against some major predictions. We’ve already seen indications that the predictions of abandonment for the SW hotel (continued site activity and meetings) and DVC (permits being filed and continued activity) are probably wrong.
Final as I stated before, this is a dynamic situation Which Disney has little to no control over. To say at this point that they have locked into a plan and they are going with with such certainty raises some big red flags. While certain items sound reasonable given the current situation, that situation may change dramatically in the next week or weeks. I personally think the OP is peddling some information which may be legitimate but not the complete story and filling in the gap with assumptions and personal feelings. (Something they’ve done before)
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You know how I track rumors and go after those pretending they know stuff.
I haven't gone after WDW Pro for not being an insider. (Maybe for other stuff, yes.)
And both Martin and Magic Feather have confirmed he knows stuff that only someone with a Source knows. But also corrected him when he was wrong.
Presentation could use some work...
Assuming I was an insider, I wouldn’t make a claim about that I couldn’t absolutely confirm, especially something major. There is also no rule about talking to other insiders,( hey have you heard this?) But making claims about something as big as keeping parks closed when operations resume or canceling signature projects is a big step. Also interesting to note, and maybe I missed it, but I haven’t heard any confirmation by other insiders that things claimed by the OP are happening in the certainty that has been conveyed by the OP.
It is very highly unlikely the parks will open if social distancing is still enforced...
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It is very highly unlikely the parks will open if social distancing is still enforced...
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I don't disagree. But if they did, it would be the best of the four for it. DHS would be the worst.
flynnibus
Premium Member
tldr - confirmation bias runs rampant in disney fan sites
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Which in itself is a nice nod to Epcot... jumping fountains first debuted at Epcot.
To be honest, it isn’t.
It is very highly unlikely the parks will open if social distancing is still enforced...
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Linked on the Drudge this morning...
Disney might check visitors' temperatures when theme parks reopen, chairman says
Walt Disney Co <DIS.N> might require theme park visitors to have their temperatures checked when they reopen after coronavirus restrictions on public gatherings are lifted, Executive Chairman Bob Iger said in an interview published on Tuesday.
I've never said Kathleen Kennedy was being fired or that Galaxy's Edge would be retrofitted to the OT in a short period of time. There's a history feature and a quote function for a reason.
And so you understand, there are times when I have conferred with Martin in private to make sure our sources were lining up. I found out before he did that Brazil was off the table for World Showcase. I then found out that Disney was reaching out to Chile as a replacement. Martin did some digging for me and was able to let me know there was no progress on that front. Both of us then had reliable info coming in from multiple sources. We've done the same thing in the past for info on the Dreamfinder character. I knew about Mary Poppins before he could confirm it, but he knew about Moana way before me.
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