What's Still On and What's Now Off

[Horizons '83]

if WDW opens June 1st....odds of Epcot being open are now what? Make your guess

0%

 

[Magic Feather]

Not that I want to get into a this vs this type back and forth, but there is other analysis that sees it differently.

Crowd Calendar and Coronavirus | TouringPlans.com Blog

There was an error in the update that was published March 23, at 1 pm. A second update was published at 9:40 pm to corre

touringplans.com

Very true that everyone has a slightly different perspective, but it doesn't hurt to try and get the best, sourced opinion. Out of curiosity, because that article didn't make it clear, (maybe @lentesta can clarify), was the data graphed in that article based on all of WDW's guests, or just Touring Plans users and Affiliates? Because, if just based on that group, I have a feeling that you are going to see increased brand loyalty skewing results that would otherwise be more moderate. But, perhaps even bigger is the fact that I believe that everyone that had their vacation cancelled intends to simply push off their vacation. However, whether that will be feasible (travel fears or economically as millions are going without pay) for them to still drop thousands of dollars is yet to be seen.
However, the fact that Disney is already offering substantial discounts to merely incentivize rebooking does not bode well.

 

[Magic Feather]

What do you think is happening with the tiger care right now at Animal Kingdom? @marni1971

Not Martin, but all Animal Services are being continued as usual.

 

[monothingie]

However, the fact that Disney is already offering substantial discounts to merely incentivize rebooking does not bode well.

But isn't this something Disney has done consistently over the past decade to encourage bookings, especially during times of weak demand? I remember fire sale AP room discounts occurring even during good economic times.

 

[Disney Analyst]

if WDW opens June 1st....odds of Epcot being open are now what? Make your guess

0%. And I raise the odds of WDW opening by June 1st in general at 3% chance.

 

[Joe_Exotic]

0%. And I raise the odds of WDW opening by June 1st in general at 3% chance.

Right on totally agree. Virginia how stay at home through June 10th at the minimum, and I believe Florida has a later peak date?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Largest park + lack of CRP's that make the back half of the park closed + probably no fireworks + half of it is under construction + lack of attendance anyways due to construction = The park with the least amount of offerings, ergo the easiest to cut out.

If I'm reading this right, the fireworks are made out of college interns?

 

[Magic Feather]

But isn't this something Disney has done consistently over the past decade to encourage bookings, especially during times of weak demand? I remember fire sale AP room discounts occurring even during good economic times.

Not on this scale, if I recall (admittedly I would have to double check). AP room discounts happen almost all year (I’ve scored an AP rate over Spring Break before). Free Dining though usually is considered to be the “big guns” to pull people in for smaller ranges of targeted date sthat are forecasted to have weaker attendance.

 

[tnccopeland]

Florida's peak has been updated. Per https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections , It is now the 21st of April. Not sure what this will change in the long run, but it gives me hope!

 

[mickEblu]

But that wasn’t Disney’s goal...the “rabid” Star Wars fans who were NOT Disney fans and were supposed to add themselves into the fold never came and won’t.

Its not so much they didn’t come, it’s that they were already there for the most part. I predicted on the DL forum that it wouldn’t be nearly as bad as people thought when everyone was predicting that GE would break Disneyland. I was wondering who all these huge Star Wars fans that were not already a Disneyland fan/ visitor or AP were? Not to mention the fact WDW was getting an exact copy. With that said, I thought the land would have created much more hype than it did the first few months. Looking back now, its hard to differentiate the buzz GE generated to say that of the Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout overlay. All it did was create a little bit of buzz with the APs that were already attending the park’s anyway.

 

[flynnibus]

For those saying that we will see sustained high crowds once the parks reopen, I’d like to point you to this wonderful article by @WDWFigment (Tom Bricker):

How Crowded Will Disney World Be After Reopening?

“How bad will crowds be when Walt Disney World's parks reopen?” and “which months will be busiest when WDW reopens?" are two common reader questions right now. Many readers are understandably anxious about crowds when

www.disneytouristblog.com

same stuff been said here for weeks. Many just want to think the light at the far end of the tunnel is utopia.... not the oncoming train.

people who think everything goes to normal like a light switch are putting their heads in the sand.

 

[flynnibus]

Not that I want to get into a this vs this type back and forth, but there is other analysis that sees it differently.

Crowd Calendar and Coronavirus | TouringPlans.com Blog

There was an error in the update that was published March 23, at 1 pm. A second update was published at 9:40 pm to corre

touringplans.com

the one that says "this is unprecedented..." then goes onto use old data from events that dont match this at all... to say how it will be like the last time.

you don't see the flaw in that at all?

 

[FigmentsFangirl]

Right on totally agree. Virginia how stay at home through June 10th at the minimum, and I believe Florida has a later peak date?

What I am seeing is that Floridas stay at home order ends on 30 April

 

[Rich Brownn]

I think they will be waiving it. I have a feeling the US will not be issuing visas for any foreign workers, and I doubt travel restrictions will be eased even past the parks reopening. I assume the US focus will be on Americans getting jobs.

I thought FEA was no longer under Norwiegen contract, after they walk away from, the pavilion

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Other than locals, are typical Disney guests now more on the upper end of the income scale and this not as affected by this?

You think upper end of the income scale is staying at All Stars and Pop Century?

 

[JenniferS]

Or they know the reservations are going to be cancelled, and are waiting for Disney to do it themselves and offer rebooking incentives instead of preemptively cancelling and getting nothing.

You took the words right out of my mouth. That is exactly what Hubby suggested when I said wanted to cancel last week.

 

[Getachew]

There are TONS of people champing at the bit to return on day 1, even if only the outdoor spinners are open.

I’m addicted to Disney like all of us, but I don’t want this to taint my WDW experience, so we booked Vero Beach for 4th of July. We have never been, will get some Disney without having to observe how the parks are different, and honestly, relaxing at a small resort on the water sounds really nice after this. Disney World will be there next year for us.

We'll see what happens. Things will be very different down the line, and I think many won't want to pay for resorts to go to parks open for shorter amount of hours and a lot of restrictions. Maybe I'm wrong though.

 

[Getachew]

What I am seeing is that Floridas stay at home order ends on 30 April

for now...

 

[marni1971]

I thought FEA was no longer under Norwiegen contract, after they walk away from, the pavilion

Correct. Although It had a majority ICP staff.

 

[Piebald]

What I am seeing is that Floridas stay at home order ends on 30 April

They will just keep extending it.