"What's Next" Presentation cancelled.....

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celluloid

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Any media who actually showed up for such announcements were the ones punk'd. No reveals except people taking images of a projected vague image and everything else was once again a pat on the back for things already operating...and a bowling alley.

Did you hear all the ooos and ahhs from the crowds of media? ha. It was eerily silent.
 
ParentsOf4

ParentsOf4

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Uddy said:
Bottom line....
Disney could do so much more, but won't.
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If you want to understand TDO's decision-making process, "follow the money" (to quote from All the President's Men).

If you want to understand Walt Disney's decision-making process, read his words:
I've always been bored with just making money. I've wanted to do things, I wanted to build things. Get something going. People look at me in different ways. Some of them say, 'The guy has no regard for money.' That is not true. I have had regard for money. But I'm not like some people who worship money as something you've got to have piled up in a big pile somewhere. I've only thought of money in one way, and that is to do something with it, you see? I don't think there is a thing that I own that I will ever get the benefit of, except through doing things with it.
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jt04

jt04

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HenryMystic said:
Okay JT, I'll bite. How has Disney punked Universal?
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I am sure they were hoping Disney would reveal more than they did. Just enough info to keep Uni guessing. I really think that much of the pressure generated in places like this to intimadate Disney into showing its cards comes from Universal management types. The mouse never steps into that trap.
 
BryceM

BryceM

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djlaosc said:
I've already posted this in another thread, but isn't it amazing that FLE2012 (so, not including the Mine Train Coaster) gets you just about the same as Universal 2013 (Simpsons+Transformers), but Universal is taking less than 1 year, and costs a lot cheaper?

Little Mermaid = Transformers
Dumbo Spinner = Kang/Kodos Spinner
Be Our Guest = Simpsons Fast Food District Restaurants (Krusty Burger, Kentucky Fried Panda, etc.

Only difference is that BoG is sometimes a sit down restaurant!

And, if you include Mine Train Coaster, then you compare to London/Gringotts/Hogwarts Express
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How does SDMT compare to a whole new themed land?
 
StageFrenzy

StageFrenzy

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jt04 said:
I am sure they were hoping Disney would reveal more than they did. Just enough info to keep Uni guessing. I really think that much of the pressure generated in places like this to intimadate Disney into showing its cards comes from Universal management types. The mouse never steps into that trap.
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I guarantee you that once decisions get to the TDO level pretty much everyone in Orlando knows whats going on. Just like Disney knows what goes on at UNI. Once projects advance to a certain level contractors and other industry insiders are involved. Avatar was such a big shock because it was just Iger, Cameron and maybe some of the board.
 
Captain Neo

Captain Neo

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jt04 said:
I am sure they were hoping Disney would reveal more than they did. Just enough info to keep Uni guessing. I really think that much of the pressure generated in places like this to intimadate Disney into showing its cards comes from Universal management types. The mouse never steps into that trap.
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Dude are you just trolling or is this the kind of stuff that goes through your mind all day? For your own sanity I really recommend you get a life. Disney is not "punking" Universal nor was it their intent. This was originally going to be a "whats next" conference and when the team running the conference got word that nothing new was getting announced they changed it to "around the world". They literally threw in that picture of avatarland just to have some content to talk about.

The reality is this:

WDW just replaced an e-ticket with a cloned dark ride and some food/merchandise locations and replaced Test Track with a slightly better Test Track. They have nothing serious in development except for ongoing talks on Avatar that I promise you will not see the light of day until AT LEAST Summer 2016 if EVER.

Meanwhile Universal Studios is building an e-ticket that will be open in May plus constructing phase 2 of Harry Potter land that will include several new groundbreaking rides, shows and attractions and at Disneyland they opened Cars Land in the summer and are about to begin construction on their next e-ticket, based on Iron Man which will be open for the parks 60th. annivesary in 2015.

The only one getting punked is you.
 
SirLink

SirLink

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jt04 said:
I am sure they were hoping Disney would reveal more than they did. Just enough info to keep Uni guessing. I really think that much of the pressure generated in places like this to intimadate Disney into showing its cards comes from Universal management types. The mouse never steps into that trap.
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What Disney has nothing to show - whereas Universal well there are several projects they could properly "reveal".
 
CTXRover

CTXRover

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I too am disappointed that nothing new was announced. I'd just like to know something is on its way, whether that is selfish or not. I can understand why now though may not be the "best" time to announce this project or that project.

The facts are WDW attendance is down by their own admittance. They want people to plan trips now for what is opened now. That is where the focus was and the focus on media coverage is. If they suddenly announced Cars land or detailed Avatar plans or anything else of similar caliber, then certainly media focus could be that and not on the new reasons they have for people to visit now (whether or not you personally feel what opened to be a reason to visit).

Who knows, maybe nothing beyond Avatar is coming at some point in the future. I'd like to remain optimistic though. How much may happen at once is unclear, but there certainly seems to be signs of new attractions on the horizon
 
gonnichi

gonnichi

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My fear is that Avatar is the only major expansion that is coming anytime soon. They have already wasted a whole year on Avatar and dont seem to have a clear vision of what to build there. At this rate if new Expansions do happen at WDW nothing new will be open until like almost 2020. Especially since they build attractions at a snails pace at WDW. I hate to think about what WDW will look like later in this decade. Especially if all that WDW gets are small additions or replacements to the parks attractions which TDO is fond of doing. The parks will be in even worse shape then they are today. We probablly wont even see a new Parade for years to come. I hope TDO has a better reason for not giving us any news on whats next then the fact that there is nothing coming next. So lets hope they actually do have plans in the works for all of the parks and Pleasure Island.
 
Darth Sidious

Darth Sidious

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jt04 said:
I am sure they were hoping Disney would reveal more than they did. Just enough info to keep Uni guessing. I really think that much of the pressure generated in places like this to intimadate Disney into showing its cards comes from Universal management types. The mouse never steps into that trap.
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Who are they deeking out by announcing nothing? They'd be better suited to challenge them to spend more. Not that Comcast/GE couldn't match the spending but would they want to? Disney had such a head start that if they chose to spend money one cutting edge new attractions... it would really be hard for Uni to top it. That is not to say Uni can't do really amazing work themselves but they started late. If Disney went full steam with the lead it would be like the Miami Heat keeping Lebron, Wade and Bosh in the entire fourth quarter when they are already up by 35 at the end of 3.
 
Darth Sidious

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
Also perhaps Lee or '74 can answer this... Do you think Aulani was made more to sell DVC timeshares or to actually be profitable on its own. Obviously they want to make money there but do you believe it was deeply rooted in DVC? I just came to that thought while reading the Staggs article.
 
John

John

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jt04 said:
I am sure they were hoping Disney would reveal more than they did. Just enough info to keep Uni guessing. I really think that much of the pressure generated in places like this to intimadate Disney into showing its cards comes from Universal management types. The mouse never steps into that trap.
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jt you went from being amusing to annoying in about one page of a thread. Your assumption is that Uni needs or wants to know what Disney is up to. News flash! they dont need to. They are all in and calling Disneys hand. Trap ? what trap ? As evidence today there is nothing there. There isnt a reason in the world not to announce something as benign as a parade, What about NG ? When are they going to grace us with a project that really is in the parks already ? You want my opinion ? They never will have a formal ...."roll out the nextgen project" press event.... it will simply appear. It will never be explained.....only what we need to know ( how to make FP reservations months in advance ) Why ? its a sham. a "trap" a trap to seperate you from your wallet. IMO the reason that there isnt anything new being announced is that the money is being spent on this elaborate data (money) mining project.

Funny thing is we all will be going thru this same thing again leading up to D23 next year, I hate to even mention it.
 

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