What will Disney announce for Disney World at the 2022 D23 expo?

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm going against the grain and betting they will announce 1 or 2 new E Tickets so they can charge for ILL access.

Wouldn’t it just be easier to reskin a cheap old ride and then charge?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yes. And it was a nice break for my and two of my kids while more adventurous son (and wife) rode RNRC next door.

Not everything needs to be a home run. Doubles and singles have their place. The problem is even doubles cost as much as a home run due to how TWDC does things now, so they only swing for home runs.

Yep…it’s all about launch angle and exit velo now

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

100%. I like Mermaid but it feels too cheap for something so modern. It deserved a bit more.

Which is strange, because Mermaid cost at least twice as much as every other comparable ride.

The biggest difference between Pooh and Mermaid is that Mermaid has fabulous placemaking that promises a better ride than it delivers. Winnie the Pooh is a ride of comparable ambition (2 or 3 nice Animatronics aside), but its outside sets up an expectation that matches the experience. As much as I enjoy Mermaid's exterior, they should have either scaled back so not to overwhelm the ride and raise guests hopes or they should have pumped up the ride to match them.

Why does such a "cute" ride have a more impressive exterior than Pirates of the Caribbean?

 

[UNCgolf]

But they’re not just what people think. They’re still used to describe attractions in the industry. The Pandora drawings that got out label Navi River Journey as the C Ticket. Even over at Epic Universe the different new attractions are referred to by their ticket level.

Popularity could influence changes over the years, but the base criteria was scale and scope. Peter Pan’s Flight was never elevated to an E Ticket like the Jungle Cruise because its scale and scope were not there despite its popularity.

I know, that's what I was saying in my last paragraph.

My point was that when people use those terms here, they're used in two separate ways -- which is admittedly confusing and we probably shouldn't.

 

[UNCgolf]

The issue with Nemo and Mermaid is less that they're not groundbreaking and more that they're just unsatisfying. There are plenty of attractions that aren't groundbreaking but still manage to scratch the itch for the guests.

Na'vi River Journey. Too short and should have a couple more AAs, but what's there is 1000x better than what they built for Little Mermaid.

 

[Tha Realest]

Which is strange, because Mermaid cost at least twice as much as every other comparable ride.

The biggest difference between Pooh and Mermaid is that Mermaid has fabulous placemaking that promises a better ride than it delivers. Winnie the Pooh is a ride of comparable ambition (2 or 3 nice Animatronics aside), but its outside sets up an expectation that matches the experience. As much as I enjoy Mermaid's exterior, they should have either scaled back so not to overwhelm the ride and raise guests hopes or they should have pumped up the ride to match them.

Why does such a "cute" ride have a more impressive exterior than Pirates of the Caribbean?

WDI for the last decade

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Which is strange, because Mermaid cost at least twice as much as every other comparable ride.

The biggest difference between Pooh and Mermaid is that Mermaid has fabulous placemaking that promises a better ride than it delivers. Winnie the Pooh is a ride of comparable ambition (2 or 3 nice Animatronics aside), but its outside sets up an expectation that matches the experience. As much as I enjoy Mermaid's exterior, they should have either scaled back so not to overwhelm the ride and raise guests hopes or they should have pumped up the ride to match them.

Why does such a "cute" ride have a more impressive exterior than Pirates of the Caribbean?

Year of construction…is the answer to your question.

Remember that bobs minions MASSIVELY over promised on “new fantasyland” too.
Not much came out of it for years of bluster.

 

[Jrb1979]

Year of construction…is the answer to your question.

Remember that bobs minions MASSIVELY over promised on “new fantasyland” too.
Not much came out of it for years of bluster.

IMO the biggest issue is that they announce all these new attractions when they are still in the planning stages. What they need to do is announce new attractions once they get to the construction phase.

 

[CentralFLlife]

I'm going against the grain and betting they will announce 1 or 2 new E Tickets so they can charge for ILL access.

Now you’ve got me wondering if they’re going to use ILL as a way to justify building new E/D tickets at a higher rate.

 

[SirLink]

There are so many projects that were put on shelves - they could announce a ton of them just to feed some meat to the fanbois if they wanted to. Then announce due to market difficulties they can't continue with the projects.

 

[Tha Realest]

Now you’ve got me wondering if they’re going to use ILL as a way to justify building new E/D tickets at a higher rate.

Yes, plus why build a D/C when for the same space and fraction of the cost you could squeeze in three shops and a small counter service place that returns immediate $$

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

IMO the biggest issue is that they announce all these new attractions when they are still in the planning stages. What they need to do is announce new attractions once they get to the construction phase.

That’s the way it used to be…but the internet and digital speed media has killed everything

Now you’ve got me wondering if they’re going to use ILL as a way to justify building new E/D tickets at a higher rate.

Possible…but I doubt it. Bob is “not too veiled” been saying they can make money out of nothing…and he has alot of skin In that game

 

[the_rich]

That’s the way it used to be…but the internet and digital speed media has killed everything

Possible…but I doubt it. Bob is “not to veiled” been saying they can make money out of nothing…and he has alot of skin In that game

I personally think they are gonna announce something big for florida..thats just a feeling I have though.

 

[J4546]

Indiana Jones and the lost expedition is coming to Paris Studios Park.

That would be so chill. Instead of Star Wars for phase 2 around lake, build a giant IJLE themed area with Temple of Forbidden Eye, Mine Coaster, Jungle Cruise style ride (maybe a river rapids) Food and shopping and alos a Camp Discovery style rope course but instead of a mountain its ruinous temple remains that go around the showbuildings. That way your adding 4 pretty major attractions to DSP which is the worst Disney Park and your giving me (someone in USA) a big reason to visit Paris parks.

I like SW and GE is great but lets keep the 2 studios parks a bit different so if you wanna exxperience Star Wars Universe go to Florida Stuios Park, if you wanna experiene IJ universe go to Paris Studios Park

Also, as for the small IJ coaster that in DLP and the expansion around it that is originally for Forbidden Eye, Id like to do something different with that area but might as well keep the IJ coaster up until its redeveloped

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I personally think they are gonna announce something big for florida..thats just a feeling I have though.

1. I hope you’re right
2. Better be better than what they’ve been doing (overall) of late

 

[WondersOfLife]

The issue with Nemo and Mermaid is less that they're not groundbreaking and more that they're just unsatisfying. There are plenty of attractions that aren't groundbreaking but still manage to scratch the itch for the guests.

I believe Mermaid scratches just barely enough, and Nemo doesn't.

But again, I firmly believe a few extra Nemos and Mermaid rides would be fine.

 

[UNCgolf]

I believe Mermaid scratches just barely enough, and Nemo doesn't.

But again, I firmly believe a few extra Nemos and Mermaid rides would be fine.

I'm not a fan of Mermaid, but it's a much better ride than Nemo.

The biggest issues with Mermaid are the queue/facade, which sets expectations the ride can't meet, and the amount of money they spent on it. It's a bit like Guardians in that if you know how much it cost, you're thinking "where the heck did the money go?"

 

[WondersOfLife]

I actually disagree with both.

Mermaid is a time filler…which they need a lot more of…

Nemo was a retheme of a dead ride. People forget that…it was adding something to a decayed legacy Epcot pavilion. Not groundbreaking…but better than decay and doom as in at least 3 other areas of that park

Plus, people forget that there are a whole bunch of 1-8 year olds visiting the parks as well.

 

[WondersOfLife]

The biggest issues with Mermaid are the queue/facade, which sets expectations the ride can't meet, and the amount of money they spent on it. It's a bit like Guardians in that if you know how much it cost, you're thinking "where the heck did the money go?"

I disagree... In fact, I believe the queue and facade are one of the main reasons why I enjoy the attraction for what it is. Meanwhile, if you caught me over at California Adventure, I wouldn't even think to step foot in that ride.

Mermaid does exactly what it needed to do... Be a big people eater for families with little kids. It does that well. And I think any 7 year old kid will tell you that they like the mermaid ride.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

I believe Mermaid scratches just barely enough, and Nemo doesn't.

But again, I firmly believe a few extra Nemos and Mermaid rides would be fine.

I think WDW DESPERATELY needs more Winnie the Poohs, Peter Pan's Flights, and Snow White's Scary Adventures (RIP).

Each of those attractions, for their faults, scratches the itch in a way Mermaid and Nemo don't. I'd hate to say they don't make 'em like the used to, but sometimes it almost seems like it.

Someone needs to come along and re-teach Disney the art and the value of the C-Ticket. They're making them less and missing the mark too often when they do.