What should be done with the Carrousel theater (Tomorrowland Expo Center) in Tomorrowland?

[truecoat]

I agree on that unless it's Muppet Vision, Philarmagic, and it's tough to be a bug. Those ones are great because they also have great AA's and have a really fun atmosphere.

I'd put them all in a category of I'll go if I have time rides and I don't want to ride anything else.

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

I'd put them all in a category of I'll go if I have time rides and I don't want to ride anything else.

I could skip Philarmagic or it's tough to be a bug but I always stop to watch Muppet Vision when I visit Hollywood Studios. Especially because I never know if that will be on the chopping block next.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Yeah that's current Disney. I wish Tony Baxter was still in the company to overhaul Tomorrow Land like the one at Paris.

He did and he, by his own admission, blew it.

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

He did and he, by his own admission, blew it.

He did? I had no idea.

 

[lazyboy97o]

He did? I had no idea.

Tomorrowland 98

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

Tomorrowland 98

Oh ok I honestly totally forgot about that.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Yeah that's current Disney. I wish Tony Baxter was still in the company to overhaul Tomorrow Land like the one at Paris.

I think the '60s style 'retro future' approach is a far better fit for Disneyland in Anaheim than the Jules Verne Steampunk 'Discovery Land' Style. Update the rides but keep the aesthetic of the land that good ole' fashioned white.

 

[SuddenStorm]

It's obvious. Replace it with a new version of this:

If we can dream it, we can do it!​

My vote would be an updated iteration of the original Journey Into Imagination. The themes of that ride would be a perfect fit for Disneyland Tomorrowland, and the wonderful Sherman Brothers Score and good ole' fashioned Imagineering found in that ride would be a welcome addition to Tomorrowland.

 

[Phroobar]

The old Captain EO theater could be turned into an indoor water show just like Sea World had in the 70's.

Presented by Sparkletts!

 

[Disney Irish]

I think the '60s style 'retro future' approach is a far better fit for Disneyland in Anaheim than the Jules Verne Steampunk 'Discovery Land' Style. Update the rides but keep the aesthetic of the land that good ole' fashioned white.

I'd be for that, and looking at the entrance project I think we can all agree that was the way they were heading. Hopefully that project won't be 10+ years away.

 

[Phroobar]

My vote would be an updated iteration of the original Journey Into Imagination. The themes of that ride would be a perfect fit for Disneyland Tomorrowland, and the wonderful Sherman Brothers Score and good ole' fashioned Imagineering found in that ride would be a welcome addition to Tomorrowland.

It totally works but I think the spot is a little big for it.

Pizza Planet and some area in the back could be incorporated into a trackless time traveling ride. We could go inside the dinosaur diorama and the train would be part of the show.

 

[Nland316]

Yeah that's current Disney. I wish Tony Baxter was still in the company to overhaul Tomorrow Land like the one at Paris.

I really never have been a fan of Discoveryland’s execution. I do understand and like the thought behind it, but never thought the execution of it was visually that good. It always looked rather cheap to me. DisneySea executes the steampunk/Jules Verne look rather well, but that’s because it looks more aged and realistic versus Paris’ attempt at a similar theme.

 

[Supreme Leader]

Do you guys not like Honey I Shrunk the Audience? Sorry but it will be much better to have that then crappy Disney trailers.

I'd personally rather have the entire land sans Space Mountain demo'd and rebuild from the ground up with new and more unique attractions that actually have to do with the theme of Tomorrowland. You know; the Atomic Age, the challenges of Outer Space and the hope for a more peaceful and more unified world. They could even split the land up in different sections! The science of Earth, Sea and Sky (space too! ) But that's pure armchair talk.

 

[bryanfze55]

I'd put them all in a category of I'll go if I have time rides and I don't want to ride anything else.

Depends on the show and the ride. Charming as they are, I get bored of the Fantasyland rides easy even though I like them. The 4D shows are ~10 minutes with minimal wait, many rides are ~2 minutes with varying waits. Give me Pan/Pinocchio/Snow vs Muppets/Bugs/PhilharMagic and I'd say the latter has more repeatability. All one man's opinion.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I really never have been a fan of Discoveryland’s execution. I do understand and like the thought behind it, but never thought the execution of it was visually that good. It always looked rather cheap to me. DisneySea executes the steampunk/Jules Verne look rather well, but that’s because it looks more aged and realistic versus Paris’ attempt at a similar theme.

My problem with Discoveryland is that it really does not have a well shapeD space. There south side lacks strong spatial definition and it sort of meanders off to the East so that the really unrelated but then hot new Star Tours could be included.

 

[Professortango1]

I think the '60s style 'retro future' approach is a far better fit for Disneyland in Anaheim than the Jules Verne Steampunk 'Discovery Land' Style. Update the rides but keep the aesthetic of the land that good ole' fashioned white.

I always hated the white retro look. I remember being so bored by it as a kid. I loved the goals of TL 98, even if the execution was off. I loved seeing textures and color in the land. It felt real and not like a mall for a brief period.

 

[PiratesMansion]

My problem with Discoveryland is that it really does not have a well shapeD space. There south side lacks strong spatial definition and it sort of meanders off to the East so that the really unrelated but then hot new Star Tours could be included.

That, and the fact that the path that connects directly to Fantasyland is poorly located and often closed for parades (honestly, they probably just close it most of the time because that's easier), so most of the time you can only enter and exit the land towards the hub. That's poor design that I'm honestly surprised they didn't think about when they built the park. They should have known better.

I don't know if I really like Discoveryland or not, but it probably is still the most effective Tomorrowland-variant in the world in terms of cohesion. Moreso before Buzz Lightyear and Hyperspace, but what can you do?

 

[lazyboy97o]

That, and the fact that the path that connects directly to Fantasyland is poorly located and often closed for parades (honestly, they probably just close it most of the time because that's easier), so most of the time you can only enter and exit the land towards the hub. That's poor design that I'm honestly surprised they didn't think about when they built the park. They should have known better.

I don't know if I really like Discoveryland or not, but it probably is still the most effective Tomorrowland-variant in the world in terms of cohesion. Moreso before Buzz Lightyear and Hyperspace, but what can you do?

Nobody seems to have figured out a good way to handle that Tomorrowland/Discoveryland to Fantasyland transition. Disneyland is probably the best because it is a more nuanced vision of the future (travel and leisure) that morphed into fantasy. There's this weird thing about futurism where we still assume that we're going to tear everything down for megastructures but in reality there would not be a single look. It would be interesting to see a Tomorrowland that was given the sort of Disneyland Paris Main Street lived in treatment, still looking grand but a place where time has clearly passed.

Don't forget Mickey's PhilharMagic. For all the talk of Discoveryland's cohesion the only attraction that strongly ties to the Jules Verne concept is Les Mystères du Nautilus. Oribtron and Autopia are still there but are more about their aesthetic treatment than the underlying concept.

 

[choco choco]

I really never have been a fan of Discoveryland’s execution. I do understand and like the thought behind it, but never thought the execution of it was visually that good. It always looked rather cheap to me. DisneySea executes the steampunk/Jules Verne look rather well, but that’s because it looks more aged and realistic versus Paris’ attempt at a similar theme.

Paris' Discoveryland is not a real place. It doesn't attempt to seem like a functional, human-occupiable space. So, mainly, it's just a bunch of Steam Punk decoration on what's clearly theme park buildings. DisneySea attempted to build a real space, a sort of volcano base or volcano mine or whatever, and real thought was put into how that would all work if it were inhabitable.

 

[choco choco]

That, and the fact that the path that connects directly to Fantasyland is poorly located and often closed for parades (honestly, they probably just close it most of the time because that's easier), so most of the time you can only enter and exit the land towards the hub. That's poor design that I'm honestly surprised they didn't think about when they built the park. They should have known better.

I don't know if I really like Discoveryland or not, but it probably is still the most effective Tomorrowland-variant in the world in terms of cohesion. Moreso before Buzz Lightyear and Hyperspace, but what can you do?

That entire area - with the Hyperion theater/eating area and whatever circular building just south west of it - was just a placeholder that could be easily demolished for future additions. I actually think the entire northeast section of the park is entirely vague, including the eastern side of Fantasyland. It seems like that's the area where they did the bare minimum in expectation it be prime expansion space, which obviously never came because the park hasn't done well.