What old rumored projects do you want to see John Lasseter reevaluate?

[netenyahoo]

I'd like to see Western River Expedition and Discovery Bay re-evaluated. I am sure thay can update the ideas and make them better, but I like what I have read about these 2 proposed ideas already. I think Western River Expedition would be a great addition to DCA to help witht he CA theme. Discobery Bay would work well at DL or MK or possibly Epcot.

I also like Beastly Kingdom. Maybe they could meld it with Narnia as an addition to Animal Kingdom or the Studios.

 

[MeTa]

Those sound cool, no matter what Disney does they will always come up with neew thrilling rides and attractions. Even if they sound stupid to us on the drawing board they will most likely come out to be some of the best.

 

[Ghostbuster626]

Those sound cool, no matter what Disney does they will always come up with neew thrilling rides and attractions. Even if they sound stupid to us on the drawing board they will most likely come out to be some of the best.

Problem is during the past ten years under Micheal "im all about short term profits" Eisner cool attractions like these were "suspended indefinatly" because he thought Disney could get by with cheaper stuff like Journey into YOUR imagination, Stich great escape, or just cloning attractions from other parks.

 

[wannab@dis]

Problem is during the past ten years under Micheal "im all about short term profits" Eisner cool attractions like these were "suspended indefinatly" because he thought Disney could get by with cheaper stuff like Journey into YOUR imagination, Stich great escape, or just cloning attractions from other parks.

And yet another over-reaching statement with no basis of fact...

 

[Ghostbuster626]

And yet another over-reaching statement with no basis of fact...

The proof is in the pudding my friend.

 

[wannab@dis]

The proof is in the pudding my friend.

:lol: But your "pudding" has no ingredients!

 

[Ghostbuster626]

:lol: But your "pudding" has no ingredients!

In the late 1980s-Early 1990s Disney built stuff like: Splash Mountain, MGM Studios, Star Tours, Roger Rabbit's Cartoon spin w/toon town @ disneyland, New Tommorowland at WDW, Disneyland Paris, Maelstorm, Captain EO, Indiana Jones Adventure, Space Mountain paris, Tower of Terror, etc.

In the Late 1990s-Early 00's Disney built stuff like: Aladin's Magic Carpets, Disney's California Adventure, Disney Studios Paris, Pooh's playful spot, mission:space (Nice building, cool technology, boring ride), a new tommorowland in california which became a huge fiasco, cheap pixar tie-ins, DINO-RAMA, Journey into your imagination!, tiki room under NEW management, Stich's Great Escape, and shut down numerous attractions for no reason other than to keep costs down. (20k under the sea, Skyway, etc.) among other things.

There was a large and obvious drop in quality. So tell me another one

 

[Sledge]

In the late 1980s-Early 1990s Disney built stuff like: Splash Mountain, MGM Studios, Star Tours, Roger Rabbit's Cartoon spin w/toon town @ disneyland, New Tommorowland at WDW, Disneyland Paris, Maelstorm, Captain EO, Indiana Jones Adventure, Space Mountain paris, Tower of Terror, etc.

In the Late 1990s-Early 00's Disney built stuff like: Aladin's Magic Carpets, Disney's California Adventure, Disney Studios Paris, Pooh's playful spot, mission:space (Nice building, cool technology, boring ride), a new tommorowland in california which became a huge fiasco, cheap pixar tie-ins, DINO-RAMA, Journey into your imagination!, tiki room under NEW management, Stich's Great Escape, and shut down numerous attractions for no reason other than to keep costs down. (20k under the sea, Skyway, etc.) among other things.

There was a large and obvious drop in quality. So tell me another one

Also in the "Late 1990s-Early 00's":
- Animal Kingdom ('98)
- Rock N' Roller Coaster ('99)
- Soarin' at DCA ('01)
- PhilharMagic ('03)
- Lights, Motors, Action ('05)
- Expedition: Everest ('06)

 

[Enderikari]

In the late 1980s-Early 1990s Disney built stuff like: Splash Mountain, MGM Studios, Star Tours, Roger Rabbit's Cartoon spin w/toon town @ disneyland, New Tommorowland at WDW, Disneyland Paris, Maelstorm, Captain EO, Indiana Jones Adventure, Space Mountain paris, Tower of Terror, etc.

In the Late 1990s-Early 00's Disney built stuff like: Aladin's Magic Carpets, Disney's California Adventure, Disney Studios Paris, Pooh's playful spot, mission:space (Nice building, cool technology, boring ride), a new tommorowland in california which became a huge fiasco, cheap pixar tie-ins, DINO-RAMA, Journey into your imagination!, tiki room under NEW management, Stich's Great Escape, and shut down numerous attractions for no reason other than to keep costs down. (20k under the sea, Skyway, etc.) among other things.

There was a large and obvious drop in quality. So tell me another one

And I will call the horse-hockey on the shutting down 20K leagues and Skyway for no other reason than to keep costs down... You have no concept of reality, friend. And you do best to stay out of the realms of grown-ups.

 

[wannab@dis]

In the late 1980s-Early 1990s Disney built stuff like: Splash Mountain, MGM Studios, Star Tours, Roger Rabbit's Cartoon spin w/toon town @ disneyland, New Tommorowland at WDW, Disneyland Paris, Maelstorm, Captain EO, Indiana Jones Adventure, Space Mountain paris, Tower of Terror, etc.

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There was a large and obvious drop in quality. So tell me another one

In the Late 1990s-Early 00's Disney built stuff like: Aladin's Magic Carpets (my daughter's favorite ride), Disney's California Adventure (haven't been... have you?), Disney Studios Paris(haven't been... have you?), Pooh's playful spot (another favorite of kids), mission:space (Nice building, cool technology, boring ride) (loved it), a new tommorowland in california which became a huge fiasco(haven't been... have you?), cheap pixar tie-ins (TLS? looks good so far, Buzz in TL? Great ride, many people love it), DINO-RAMA (opinions differ, but Dinosaur is a great ride and Dinoland was enjoyed by my little one), Journey into your imagination (my little girl loved it)!, tiki room under NEW management(my little girl loved it), Stich's Great Escape (not on my great list, but a lot like it), and shut down numerous attractions for no reason other than to keep costs down (WRONG! -- get your facts straight). (20k under the sea, Skyway, etc.) among other things.

Also in the "Late 1990s-Early 00's":
- Animal Kingdom ('98)
- Rock N' Roller Coaster ('99)
- Soarin' at DCA ('01)
- PhilharMagic ('03)
- Lights, Motors, Action ('05)
- Expedition: Everest ('06)

Yep, he's got selective observations, huh?

 

[Connor002]

Disney Studios Paris(haven't been... have you?),

I have. :lookaroun

Theming was a little bland at times, and there's room for improvement, but all in all it had some very original attractions...

 

[Pongo]

In the Late 1990s-Early 00's Disney built stuff like: Aladin's Magic Carpets, Disney's California Adventure, Disney Studios Paris, Pooh's playful spot, mission:space (Nice building, cool technology, boring ride), a new tommorowland in california which became a huge fiasco, cheap pixar tie-ins, DINO-RAMA, Journey into your imagination!, tiki room under NEW management, Stich's Great Escape, and shut down numerous attractions for no reason other than to keep costs down. (20k under the sea, Skyway, etc.) among other things.

You seem to not realize that most of these either stemmed or stemmed from other things created in the 90's-00's.

California Adventure begat Soarin', as stated above. As well as California Screamin', the new Monsters Inc ride (which seems to be a hit), as well as two new hotels for Disneyland.

Pooh's Playful Spot stemmed from The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh ride at WDW, whcih begat clones, but I hear that TDL's Pooh is amazing, and WDW's isn't that bad either. It was an original idea, and it fit perfectly.

Mission: Space as a great ride. People seem to diss it because it's "not technological". Well, either is Everest, but apparently people are condemning that ride left and right. But you're entitled to your opinion on if you like it or not. But the truth is there: It raised Epcot's attendance.

Turtle Talk and Buzz and ITTBAB are great hits at their respective parts. Cheapness aside, people like them. If there is trth in that they were cheap, Disney saved money on good attractions.

Dino-Rama stemmed from Dinoland, which stemmed from Animal Kingdom - A WHOLE PARK built in the 90's. You can't be serious in saying that Eisner went wrong in building AK.

SGE is AE with a different Alien and a nasty smell. Kids go for nasty smells. People who aren't hardcore Disney nerds like us like it. We are few and far between.

I'm not following your logic.

 

[MartyMouse]

The cost cutting wasn’t Eisner’s goal at all. He did big things but got beaten up by the board (that Roy Disney was part of) for not turning profits quicker, so in the late 90s that’s what he was forced to do. Disneyland Paris is by far the best Magic Kingdom (and I’ve been to 3 of them) because money wasn’t an obstacle. Eisner’s people created a gorgeous park with an extensive resort, but after the first year in the red the board came down on him like a ton of bricks, I guess they forgot how many times Walt nearly bankrupted the studio in his time. I hate to say it but yes after that corners were cut but not across the board, look at Animal Kingdom … what? oh yeah Beastly Kingdom, right dump a few more million into the park and then compare ticket sales and see how much hot water Eisner would have been in.

Oh what’s that I hear the ABC deal? Right, bad move, waste of money – how is ABC performing now? Looks like Eisner was right about that.

Oh yeah the Pixar deal, great now that Eisner is gone Disney owns Pixar … how much stock did Steve Jobs get? Right, perhaps Eisner just wasn’t a sucker for bad deal, remember the Muppets (who owns them now?).

 

[MartyMouse]

By the way I liked California Adventure, it’s on par with the Disney/MGM Studios, I don’t see why people hate it so much.

 

[Ghostbuster626]

Also in the "Late 1990s-Early 00's":
- Animal Kingdom ('98)
- Rock N' Roller Coaster ('99)
- Soarin' at DCA ('01)
- PhilharMagic ('03)
- Lights, Motors, Action ('05)
- Expedition: Everest ('06)

True but out of those:

Animal Kingdom - I love it. But unfortuantly the reaction to the park from the general public since opening has been negative for the most part. This is due to budget cuts everywhere from Countdown to Extinction (which was originally supposed to be like Indiana Jones where each ride is randomized so you never get the same ride twice) to the cutting of a whole section of the park (Beastly Kingdom). The park would be alot more popular today if Joe Rhodes plan to have the park split into 3 sections didnt get choped up. Right now it remains a park with alot of potential and Expedition Everest is a step in the right direction. Look at how many attractions and things to do Epcot had when it opened in 1982.

Rock n' roller coaster - This ride is really just "meh"

Soarin - This is the only good ride at DCA.

Phillarmagic - Good. But it isnt even worth mentiong as its only meant to be a minor attraction. A supplement really.

lights/motor/action - sucks, waste of space.

Expedition Everest - Good but this is really the only truely great attraction on your list.

 

[MartyMouse]

See kids, crack is bad -

Rock n' roller coaster - This ride is really just "meh"

Odd no one said it was "meh" when it opened.

Soarin - This is the only good ride at DCA.

Have you been to DCA?

Phillarmagic - Good. But it isnt even worth mentiong as its only meant to be a minor attraction. A supplement really.

Good? It's Grrrrr-ate!
A supplement? Really?

lights/motor/action - sucks, waste of space.

Ok - that one did kind-of suck.

Expedition Everest - Good.

Good? How can you say good, dude that ride kicks much butt.

What was that?

I'm on crack.

Oh right.

 

[Pongo]

Animal Kingdom - I love it. But unfortuantly the reaction to the park from the general public since opening has been negative for the most part. This is due to budget cuts everywhere from Countdown to Extinction (which was originally supposed to be like Indiana Jones where each ride is randomized so you never get the same ride twice) to the cutting of a whole section of the park (Beastly Kingdom). The park would be alot more popular today if Joe Rhodes plan to have the park split into 3 sections didnt get choped up. Right now it remains a park with alot of potential and Expedition Everest is a step in the right direction. Look at how many attractions and things to do Epcot had when it opened in 1982.

What are you TALKING about?! Were you BLINDFOLDED when you went to Animal Kingdom?! Out of all the parks, it has the BEST theming! You think Epcot has better theming? Future world is just buildings with curved walls! Take a walk down the Maharajah Jungle Trek, then come back and say that the imagineers skimped on the theming for AK.

And there is no need to be spiteful about BK. I'm sure there are plenty of other projects in WDI that never got built which were a MILLION times better. I'm so tired of hearing about BK these days.

Again, your logic is flawed. Learn the facts. Open your eyes.

:wave:

 

[Pongo]

What was that?



Oh right.

:lol:

Though not appropriate, very funny.

 

[MartyMouse]

Sorry.

 

[imagineer boy]

Have you been to DCA?

I have. And I have to agree, Soarin was pretty much the only original ride that I liked there. I didn't go on any of the Paradise Peir rides because I don't like BIG rollercoasters and none of the carnival rides interested me. A bug's land only had rides for little kids, and The hollywood section only had Muppets and the animation building. Grizzly River Run was good, but if I were the designers and had an unlimited budget, I would've put animatronic animals to populate the river side like eagles, bears, coyotes, wolves, and mountain lions. Not to mention longer tunnel sections. DCA was "okay" in my book. The only thing that really made it worth it were only Soarin and Grizzly River Rapids.