What Next At Walt Disney World?

DVCOwner

A Long Time DVC Member
Original Poster
I have just returned from a visit to the new Bay Lake Towers and they where great. I was told that the BLT is the fastest selling of any DVC property so far. The question that this brings to mind is what is next for DVC on Walt Disney World? Is another BLT south of the main hotel in the works? How about at another of the Monorail Resorts? Has anyone heard any good rumors?
 

luvlifeinfl

New Member
no I have no rumors but my hubby & I were just talking we were saying that we want to buy into BLT but do not have the $$$. Also saying that with this location that this will be the one of the DVC locations that will go quickly.
 

artvandelay

Well-Known Member
I'd like to see more resorts outside of Florida. I think the WDW property is at saturation point. After Hawaii, perhaps a ski resort or a Bahammas resort.
 

DVCOwner

A Long Time DVC Member
Original Poster
Just remember that Disney has purchased property outside Washington DC and that will most likely be the next off-Disney site to get a resort and DVC.
 

artvandelay

Well-Known Member
Just remember that Disney has purchased property outside Washington DC and that will most likely be the next off-Disney site to get a resort and DVC.

Thanks, I forgot about that. THat's a great place for a resort. A lot of great things to see in that area.
 

Phonedave

Well-Known Member
I'd like to see more resorts outside of Florida. I think the WDW property is at saturation point. After Hawaii, perhaps a ski resort or a Bahammas resort.


I for one would love to see some sort of ski resort. Of course I doubt that Disney wants to develop a mountain, but to partner with an existing one would be very nice.

Heck, they could just take the Wilderness lodge and transport it slopeside.

-dave
 

slappy magoo

Well-Known Member
I'd like to see more resorts outside of Florida. I think the WDW property is at saturation point.

I can understand the sentiment, but I'd like to add this final 2 cents...

I think perhaps it's time for a Value DVC. Take what was supposed to be the second half of Pop Century, and repurpose it as all family suites. Maybe set them up comparable to the Fort Wilderness layout - each bedroom has a queen sized bed and bunk beds, plus a sleeper sofa and sleeper chair. A kitchenette and 2 bathrooms. No studios, no 2 bedrooms, no "grand villas." Solely 1BR/2BA units, in a no-frills (or fewer-frills) location, no sitdown restaurant, no in-room laundry, nothing really beyond the typical Value resort amenities - food court, pools, a bar, an arcade - but still on property and access to WDW transportation.

Now, price those units, point-wise or ever-so-slightly higher, to a studio at Old Key West, or the Value studios at the AKV. And let new members buy-in (but only at these particular suites) with a minimum of 100 points.

For people who say "we'd love to join but it's a little out of our price range," you can now join at about 1/3 off the price of buying into any of the newer villas. And for people who are already DVC members, it affords us an option of stretching our vacations out a bit - perhaps, if you book a vacation one year and you have some extra points, maybe, instead of banking those points, you'll have enough to spend a few extra nights on-property, but at the Value Suite. I have 175 points a year, but we'll probably be banking or borrowing every other year, maybe doing 2 trips every 3 years - 2 years on, 1 year off - to take advantage of annual passes. OR we could do a 2 week blowout every 2 years, with one week in a Value Suite and 1 week in a 1 BR villa elsewhere on property. OR if in the future we wanted to bring some of our daughter's friends or cousins with us, and planned to just hit parks from dawn to dusk and needed fewer amenities, this would be a superb option. Think about people who joined when they were newlyweds, thinking they'd have 1 or 2 kids, and now they have 3 or 4, making most studios or 1 BRs unfeasible, but at the same time, the point values for 2BR makes their trips shorter than they'd like. Here are suites that could conceivably sleep 7. It wouldn't be my first choice most trips, but for those occasions where we need to stretch our use of points, it'd be a great option.

That's my suggestion du jour. Feel free to rip it a new one.
 

artvandelay

Well-Known Member
I can understand the sentiment, but I'd like to add this final 2 cents...

I think perhaps it's time for a Value DVC. Take what was supposed to be the second half of Pop Century, and repurpose it as all family suites. Maybe set them up comparable to the Fort Wilderness layout - each bedroom has a queen sized bed and bunk beds, plus a sleeper sofa and sleeper chair. A kitchenette and 2 bathrooms. No studios, no 2 bedrooms, no "grand villas." Solely 1BR/2BA units, in a no-frills (or fewer-frills) location, no sitdown restaurant, no in-room laundry, nothing really beyond the typical Value resort amenities - food court, pools, a bar, an arcade - but still on property and access to WDW transportation.

Now, price those units, point-wise or ever-so-slightly higher, to a studio at Old Key West, or the Value studios at the AKV. And let new members buy-in (but only at these particular suites) with a minimum of 100 points.

For people who say "we'd love to join but it's a little out of our price range," you can now join at about 1/3 off the price of buying into any of the newer villas. And for people who are already DVC members, it affords us an option of stretching our vacations out a bit - perhaps, if you book a vacation one year and you have some extra points, maybe, instead of banking those points, you'll have enough to spend a few extra nights on-property, but at the Value Suite. I have 175 points a year, but we'll probably be banking or borrowing every other year, maybe doing 2 trips every 3 years - 2 years on, 1 year off - to take advantage of annual passes. OR we could do a 2 week blowout every 2 years, with one week in a Value Suite and 1 week in a 1 BR villa elsewhere on property. OR if in the future we wanted to bring some of our daughter's friends or cousins with us, and planned to just hit parks from dawn to dusk and needed fewer amenities, this would be a superb option. Think about people who joined when they were newlyweds, thinking they'd have 1 or 2 kids, and now they have 3 or 4, making most studios or 1 BRs unfeasible, but at the same time, the point values for 2BR makes their trips shorter than they'd like. Here are suites that could conceivably sleep 7. It wouldn't be my first choice most trips, but for those occasions where we need to stretch our use of points, it'd be a great option.

That's my suggestion du jour. Feel free to rip it a new one.

That sounds like a good idea. It gets rid of the eyesore at Pop and the cost would be less than starting a new resort from scratch.
 

DVCOwner

A Long Time DVC Member
Original Poster
I think a "value" DVC location at Walt Disney World would be a great addition to the overall DVC collection. I know I would not use it often, but I would once every few years. DVC are you reading this?
 

DVCOwner

A Long Time DVC Member
Original Poster
Every time I read someone saying that you do not need another DVC, spend the money on the parks, I want to pull my hair out. DVC is paid for by the sell on the "points" to members. If they did not build a DVC, no additional funds would be made available for anything. All DVC does is provide additional guest visiting Walt Disney World year after year and spending big bucks on park tickets, Disney stuff to take home, and food at Disney (no free dining for DVC members). DVC is a cash cow for Disney Parks and that is why they continue to build them. It is not Disney money, but the members money building these resorts.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Every time I read someone saying that you do not need another DVC, spend the money on the parks, I want to pull my hair out. DVC is paid for by the sell on the "points" to members. If they did not build a DVC, no additional funds would be made available for anything. All DVC does is provide additional guest visiting Walt Disney World year after year and spending big bucks on park tickets, Disney stuff to take home, and food at Disney (no free dining for DVC members). DVC is a cash cow for Disney Parks and that is why they continue to build them. It is not Disney money, but the members money building these resorts.

Pull away, then. :)

I just think the focus on them has been there too long. I go to Disney for entertainment, not a hotel.
 

DVCOwner

A Long Time DVC Member
Original Poster
Pull away, then. :)

I just think the focus on them has been there too long. I go to Disney for entertainment, not a hotel.

But it is guest staying in those hotels that pay for the largest share of the entertainment. So if Disney can get hotels build using other peoples money (The DVC Members). What is the down side. I can not see one at all. Hotels = More Guest = More Revenue = More Entertainment.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
But it is guest staying in those hotels that pay for the largest share of the entertainment. So if Disney can get hotels build using other peoples money (The DVC Members). What is the down side. I can not see one at all. Hotels = More Quest = More Revenue = More Entertainment.

From my understanding, that's not how the budget works at all. They are separate.

However, allocation for building and demand for it is very different.
 

DVCOwner

A Long Time DVC Member
Original Poster
From my understanding, that's not how the budget works at all. They are separate.

However, allocation for building and demand for it is very different.

I guess that we now agree, budgets are separte. So building a DVC does not have any direct effect on spending on new rides and attractions in the parks. As for demand, DVC is demand driven. If it sells to the public than the demand is there. What DVC provides is a solid base of visitor paying money for tickets, food, etc. under a separate budget (as you state) at no capital cost to Disney and they come back year after year because they have a personnel investment in WDW.
 

worldfanatic

Well-Known Member
I go to Disney for entertainment, not a hotel.

Not me.
I go for the awesome resorts.
With the restaurants, pools, lounges and atmosphere they provide.

The parks????????
A very, very, very nice side bonus.

IMO, while you can have a fantastic vacation without one, a Disney resort makes ANY trip far more Magical!
 

Phonedave

Well-Known Member
I guess that we now agree, budgets are separte. So building a DVC does not have any direct effect on spending on new rides and attractions in the parks. As for demand, DVC is demand driven. If it sells to the public than the demand is there. What DVC provides is a solid base of visitor paying money for tickets, food, etc. under a separate budget (as you state) at no capital cost to Disney and they come back year after year because they have a personnel investment in WDW.



Exactly

I paid out of my pocket to build a hotel (well, me a load of other people)

Now I go to that hotel on a regular basis.

While I am there, I spend money in the parks, money that contributes to the parks bottom line. Money that the parks can use to fund improvements to the parks (if they do or do not is a different story)

If I did not have a vested interest in the DVC, I may not go to WDW as much as I do. Therefore I would spend less money in the parks, and therefor they would have less money in the parks budget.


-dave
 

dizzney

Member
Not me.
I go for the awesome resorts.
With the restaurants, pools, lounges and atmosphere they provide.

The parks????????
A very, very, very nice side bonus.

IMO, while you can have a fantastic vacation without one, a Disney resort makes ANY trip far more Magical!

Ditto! Love the resort side also, thats why we're DVC members, we thoroughly enjoy everything about our Disney vacation,
 

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