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What Country(s) Should EPCOT Add?
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SpenceMan01 said:
I realize that adding another ring to EP would be nearly impossible. Like the previous quoter stated, I was just seeing what countries people would add if they could. Lot's of good and imaginative ideas. Hopefully WDW has people reading these sites so they can better judge what their customers want. Some of the ideas could be incorporated into AK or maybe even a new park.
EP looks like it could hold two and maybe three more countries in the original ring. The present "Outpost" could hold a huge country display maybe like Egypt. The "Nile" even runs next to it :animwink:. There is also space between France and Morroco for a small country. Maybe Lichtenstein
. There is also a large area between the UK and the canal to the resorts. I don't know what you could put between France and the UK though. Maybe Normandy so the French would be reminded of our sacrifices for them :brick:. BTW, don't fret over bursting my bubbles. When it comes to WDW I have a 55 gallon drum of bubble soap.
SilentWindODoom
Well-Known Member
The New World Showcase
I have been thinking about this, and have taken a satelite image of the World Showcase, replotting it to fill in more countries. Of course, there is a great chance that this is not feasable, reasonable, or aesthecitally pleasing, but I was just trying to piece things together to give countries an adequate amount of space, I hope, and fit them in. I had always thought that it was a crime that some countries were not included, specifically Greece, Russia, Australlia, and Egypt.
In the picture below, I have fit in the countries best I can, keeping the aspect that I've always liked about World Showcase, that the first and last countries are our neighbors to the South and North. I wish it possible to move the US to the entrance to give more room in the back of other countries, and I think that's actually the best idea, because it is the land you're in, so it should act as gateway to the other lands.
http://photoalbums.wdwmagic.com/showphoto.php?photo=16204&cat=3209
I had originally thought of more integrating the movies of each land, then realized that previous posts were correct in saying that doing so would go against the purpose. I do, however, think that each country should have a special place where one could meet the characters of that country, and only there, not on some party bus roving about. That would be the only place to find them in the park, something to get kids interested more. It could also show the way Disney interprets itself in the different countries. I know I phrased that horribly, but it's the best thing I could come up with. I also think more rides should be incorporated, but not merely as thrills that provide no educational value, or as a showcase of Disney characters.
This is a walk about the lagoon in my dream of the World Showcase...
Explorer's Shop: Mickey, Minney, Goofy, & Donald
The empty building next to Mexico should be turned into a place that sells informational guides about the different countries, as well as general travellers equipments, and other such stuff. It would be themed after a traveller's trophy room, and hold many oddities from the different countries around the lagoon. This could also be the place where you could get passports to get stamped around the world.
Mexico: The Three Caballeros
Nothing besides the characters. That's the only change I'd make to a wonderful pavilion.
African Outpost: Lion King or Tarzan
Move it here, since it is small and not much room is needed. Theme the area to a tribal village placed back in the wooded areas.
Norway: Unsure on what characters to showcase
Keep this also just the way it is.
China: Mulan
Great pavillion, but somethings missing, although I can't, at the moment, think of something to add that would fit right.
Egypt: Unsure on what characters to showcase
Wrap it around the river and form the nile. A Pyramid could be placed near the dry dock area, obscuring it. This could also contain the entrance to a nile river ride. The rest of the area would be a small village, the back of which would be a large desert mountain range.
Greece: Hercules
The other side of the mountain range would provide the rocky hills of Greece. These would wrap around the back of the pavillion, holding a forced perspective version of the Acropolis. A beautiful village with lush greenery would take up the majority of the space, and the mountain with the Acropolis could hold a ride themed to the Greek Myths
Germany: Snow White
Build the Rhine River ride. Also, build some of the alps peaking out from over the rooftops.
Switzerland: Unsure on what characters to showcase
The Alps would continue here, and Switzerland would be based on an alpine village. Although it may not be necessary given Expedition Everest, it would be nice to have the Matterhorn be the centerpiece. If not a roller coaster, there could be gondola that carries guests to the top, from where they could get a breathtaking view of the entire park. It would fit in with the mountains of the surrounding pavillions, except for American Adventure, who may be able to block the visual intrusian with some clever landscaping
Italy: Pinocchio
The Alps would terminate in Italy. This is another wonderful pavillion, although a gondola ride (the aquatic one this time) would be nice. I wouls love the entire pavillion to have the venice waterways, but I know that's definitely not feasable or reasonable.
The American Adventure: Pocahontas
No reason for change here.
Japan: Unsure on what characters to showcase
Japan is another wonderful pavillion that I see no problem with, but many may find boring. I think a ride in the castle would be nice, but what to base it on is the trouble. And no, no Godzilla. For the love of all that is holy, no Godzilla.
India: Jungle Book
A packed and bustling village much like Morocco would be nice here, except with more of a tropical feel. The jungle would intrude wherever possible, and shows could include people who charm snakes, walk coals, lie on beds of nails, and other tricks such as that.
Morocco: None
I specifically stated that there be no characters in Morocco. Morocco is meant to be a sacred place, as mentioned before, and is a staggering pavillion just as it is. It creates total immersion, and the only thing I would suggets is filling the empty spaces in the back with small stands, giving the feel of a bustling bazaar. It just seems a bit empty there sometimes. Even if a stand or two were just empty fakes with fake fruit or objects glued down, it would add to the atmosphere.
Russia: Anastasia
The centerpiece would, of course, be the large cathedral in Moscow. Surrounding this would be a bustling city and marketplace around the time of the Russian Revolution. Perhaps posters could be set up featuring leaders, although that may be deemed too political and harsh. The areas more toward the water would be farmland. Russia would be a good place for a movie, likely housed within the cathedral.
France: Beauty and the Beast and/or Hunchback of Notre Dame
I would love to see them build the cathedral somewhere, but that may be stretching it a bit. France is another wonderful pavillion, but I would suggest including a french cabaret, albeit a Disneyfied, cleaned up version. I would also like to see the actual rose in Beauty in the Beast somewhere in a shop, although I know the stained glass windows are probably enough. Also, on the land next to the gateway, a beautiful French Chateu could be placed, even if just for show.
The British Isles: Peter Pan, Great Mouse Detective, Robin Hood, Scrooge McDuck?
Before you jump on me, I merely lumped them together so I could talk more easily about them. Plus, I don't really know enough about Ireland and Scotland to plan them out in detail. I was thinking about how much of a shame it was that nothing could be placed in the large plot of land between France and England due to that ruining the effect of the bridge being the Channel. Well, I figured why not put England's mates there, so the effect is not lost. Also, I think England is missing a key part, the bustling London city. I think an area in the back should serve as London, complete with a Parliament Building and Big Ben in the background, much like the Eiffel Tower in France. Also, if it's not too much to ask, maybe there could be a little apartment with the address of 221B, and the London Street could be Baker Street. Also, I'm sorry, but Scrooge and his kilt wearing rival were the only thing I could think up.
Spain: The Three Caballeros?
Them the area after a small Spanish city, with beautiful yellow buildings and red clay-tile roofs. No ride in this small pavillion. The food and dancing speaks for itself.
Australlia: Rescuers Down Under
I think the best way to handle Australlia is to split it in two parts, like Mexico. The area on the waterfront is urban, including the Sydney Opera House, which will sit on the waters of the lagoon. The inland side of the road will be an Aboriginal settlement in the Outback, with the large Ayers Rock in the background. A Crocodile stunt show could be seen here, as well as a show of Aboriginal customs.
Canada: Brother Bear
Canada is a beautiful pavillion without much to it. I think that behind the Rockies, more mountains should be build up, and a log ride that goes through multiple scenes involving Candaian history and customs and/or the logging industry, with some drops and a moderate one that swings them around the front of what is now the Rockies, dropping them off at the exit.
Well, that's about it. I know it's a crazy idea that may not ever happen, but that's my Dream World Showcase.
I have been thinking about this, and have taken a satelite image of the World Showcase, replotting it to fill in more countries. Of course, there is a great chance that this is not feasable, reasonable, or aesthecitally pleasing, but I was just trying to piece things together to give countries an adequate amount of space, I hope, and fit them in. I had always thought that it was a crime that some countries were not included, specifically Greece, Russia, Australlia, and Egypt.
In the picture below, I have fit in the countries best I can, keeping the aspect that I've always liked about World Showcase, that the first and last countries are our neighbors to the South and North. I wish it possible to move the US to the entrance to give more room in the back of other countries, and I think that's actually the best idea, because it is the land you're in, so it should act as gateway to the other lands.
http://photoalbums.wdwmagic.com/showphoto.php?photo=16204&cat=3209
I had originally thought of more integrating the movies of each land, then realized that previous posts were correct in saying that doing so would go against the purpose. I do, however, think that each country should have a special place where one could meet the characters of that country, and only there, not on some party bus roving about. That would be the only place to find them in the park, something to get kids interested more. It could also show the way Disney interprets itself in the different countries. I know I phrased that horribly, but it's the best thing I could come up with. I also think more rides should be incorporated, but not merely as thrills that provide no educational value, or as a showcase of Disney characters.
This is a walk about the lagoon in my dream of the World Showcase...
Explorer's Shop: Mickey, Minney, Goofy, & Donald
The empty building next to Mexico should be turned into a place that sells informational guides about the different countries, as well as general travellers equipments, and other such stuff. It would be themed after a traveller's trophy room, and hold many oddities from the different countries around the lagoon. This could also be the place where you could get passports to get stamped around the world.
Mexico: The Three Caballeros
Nothing besides the characters. That's the only change I'd make to a wonderful pavilion.
African Outpost: Lion King or Tarzan
Move it here, since it is small and not much room is needed. Theme the area to a tribal village placed back in the wooded areas.
Norway: Unsure on what characters to showcase
Keep this also just the way it is.
China: Mulan
Great pavillion, but somethings missing, although I can't, at the moment, think of something to add that would fit right.
Egypt: Unsure on what characters to showcase
Wrap it around the river and form the nile. A Pyramid could be placed near the dry dock area, obscuring it. This could also contain the entrance to a nile river ride. The rest of the area would be a small village, the back of which would be a large desert mountain range.
Greece: Hercules
The other side of the mountain range would provide the rocky hills of Greece. These would wrap around the back of the pavillion, holding a forced perspective version of the Acropolis. A beautiful village with lush greenery would take up the majority of the space, and the mountain with the Acropolis could hold a ride themed to the Greek Myths
Germany: Snow White
Build the Rhine River ride. Also, build some of the alps peaking out from over the rooftops.
Switzerland: Unsure on what characters to showcase
The Alps would continue here, and Switzerland would be based on an alpine village. Although it may not be necessary given Expedition Everest, it would be nice to have the Matterhorn be the centerpiece. If not a roller coaster, there could be gondola that carries guests to the top, from where they could get a breathtaking view of the entire park. It would fit in with the mountains of the surrounding pavillions, except for American Adventure, who may be able to block the visual intrusian with some clever landscaping
Italy: Pinocchio
The Alps would terminate in Italy. This is another wonderful pavillion, although a gondola ride (the aquatic one this time) would be nice. I wouls love the entire pavillion to have the venice waterways, but I know that's definitely not feasable or reasonable.
The American Adventure: Pocahontas
No reason for change here.
Japan: Unsure on what characters to showcase
Japan is another wonderful pavillion that I see no problem with, but many may find boring. I think a ride in the castle would be nice, but what to base it on is the trouble. And no, no Godzilla. For the love of all that is holy, no Godzilla.
India: Jungle Book
A packed and bustling village much like Morocco would be nice here, except with more of a tropical feel. The jungle would intrude wherever possible, and shows could include people who charm snakes, walk coals, lie on beds of nails, and other tricks such as that.
Morocco: None
I specifically stated that there be no characters in Morocco. Morocco is meant to be a sacred place, as mentioned before, and is a staggering pavillion just as it is. It creates total immersion, and the only thing I would suggets is filling the empty spaces in the back with small stands, giving the feel of a bustling bazaar. It just seems a bit empty there sometimes. Even if a stand or two were just empty fakes with fake fruit or objects glued down, it would add to the atmosphere.
Russia: Anastasia
The centerpiece would, of course, be the large cathedral in Moscow. Surrounding this would be a bustling city and marketplace around the time of the Russian Revolution. Perhaps posters could be set up featuring leaders, although that may be deemed too political and harsh. The areas more toward the water would be farmland. Russia would be a good place for a movie, likely housed within the cathedral.
France: Beauty and the Beast and/or Hunchback of Notre Dame
I would love to see them build the cathedral somewhere, but that may be stretching it a bit. France is another wonderful pavillion, but I would suggest including a french cabaret, albeit a Disneyfied, cleaned up version. I would also like to see the actual rose in Beauty in the Beast somewhere in a shop, although I know the stained glass windows are probably enough. Also, on the land next to the gateway, a beautiful French Chateu could be placed, even if just for show.
The British Isles: Peter Pan, Great Mouse Detective, Robin Hood, Scrooge McDuck?
Before you jump on me, I merely lumped them together so I could talk more easily about them. Plus, I don't really know enough about Ireland and Scotland to plan them out in detail. I was thinking about how much of a shame it was that nothing could be placed in the large plot of land between France and England due to that ruining the effect of the bridge being the Channel. Well, I figured why not put England's mates there, so the effect is not lost. Also, I think England is missing a key part, the bustling London city. I think an area in the back should serve as London, complete with a Parliament Building and Big Ben in the background, much like the Eiffel Tower in France. Also, if it's not too much to ask, maybe there could be a little apartment with the address of 221B, and the London Street could be Baker Street. Also, I'm sorry, but Scrooge and his kilt wearing rival were the only thing I could think up.
Spain: The Three Caballeros?
Them the area after a small Spanish city, with beautiful yellow buildings and red clay-tile roofs. No ride in this small pavillion. The food and dancing speaks for itself.
Australlia: Rescuers Down Under
I think the best way to handle Australlia is to split it in two parts, like Mexico. The area on the waterfront is urban, including the Sydney Opera House, which will sit on the waters of the lagoon. The inland side of the road will be an Aboriginal settlement in the Outback, with the large Ayers Rock in the background. A Crocodile stunt show could be seen here, as well as a show of Aboriginal customs.
Canada: Brother Bear
Canada is a beautiful pavillion without much to it. I think that behind the Rockies, more mountains should be build up, and a log ride that goes through multiple scenes involving Candaian history and customs and/or the logging industry, with some drops and a moderate one that swings them around the front of what is now the Rockies, dropping them off at the exit.
Well, that's about it. I know it's a crazy idea that may not ever happen, but that's my Dream World Showcase.
Emerald Rose
Member
Does anyone know how much land Disney has to use that could be used for future parks? Someone mentioned earlier another park. Could there be an Epcot II but not necessarily right next to existing Epcot? I would love to see more countries. I think the World Showcase is awesome. I love Epcot and additional countries would be great even if they are not right next to World Showcase.
PagingTomMorrow
New Member
sorry if someones already suggested this but im new.
i would personally LOVE to see Greece added.
itd be cool if they had like a part of it for the olympics.
the 2004 athens olympics were astounding and magical. when i saw the opening and closing ceremonies i fell in love with greece and the olympics
i would personally LOVE to see Greece added.
itd be cool if they had like a part of it for the olympics.
the 2004 athens olympics were astounding and magical. when i saw the opening and closing ceremonies i fell in love with greece and the olympics
PagingTomMorrow
New Member
SilentWindODoom said:
how about aladdin. egypt and north africa are all part of the middle east
SilentWindODoom
Well-Known Member
I was considering Aladdin in Morocco or Egypt, but decided that they have Agrabah in Adventureland already, so I'll just let them have that and not put them in the World Showcase.
Was Prince of Egypt a Disney movie?
Was Prince of Egypt a Disney movie?
robynchic
New Member
Connor002 said:
Um...It's not just called "England," Connor, it's the UK. They have representatives from England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland working there.
The problem with building back is that they can't. Epcot is so close to Beach Club and Boardwalk, any other countries would run into it. Furthermore, the backstage area is so large, that it requires a seperate Disney Transport route to go around the entire World Showcase.
Now, if they could expand, I would say India. The food is phenomenal, the costumes they could make would be beautiful, the architecture is amazing...it would be a PERFECT addition to the World Showcase.
Connor002
Active Member
robynchic said:
All right I'll be more specific: I would like a pavilion dedicated to the free and independant state of Ireland. Not to the United Kingdom. Although northern Ireland could/is part of that pavillion, I would prefer the place of my anscestors be givin fair gain, considering (most of them) are free of the Empire that has oppressed them. But perhaps in this case I may be of partisan opinion.
Tim G
Well-Known Member
Something else...SilentWindODoom said:
I only have a question, although you obviously have the best of intentions... would you be so kind to remove this horrible avatar and change it for a more happy one... it brings all kinds of memories back to me...
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imagineer boy
Well-Known Member
Woah, yet another long gone thread brought back to life. Oh well, atleast it wasn't that one that was dealing with Harry Potter that just kept comming back again and again and again....
SilentWindODoom
Well-Known Member
Corrus, could you perhaps PM me and further explain what you're saying?