What about Big Hero Six?

Padraig

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BTW Interstellar, while perhaps a "disappointment" still has more than doubled its production budget and is far ahead of Big Hero 6 in worldwide gross so far.

Double your production budget is only when a movie like Interstellar starts to make money. If that. As for the worldwide thing, compare the markets which Big Hero 6 has opened vs Interstellar.

Do people think Disney has taken the lessons from Frozen on board? Is there any merchandise available in the parks yet?
 

sujlemariecj

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Well, people are discussing the movie in the animation section.
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Siren

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I am so glad that everyone here is so perfect and has never made an error before in their life. I should be honored and humbled to be in the midst of such exceptional company. It's so hilarious to me how everyone here is a historian in Asian culture & history just because they watched Mulan or more than likley just googled it.

This kind of thing is why so many posters and lurkers are afraid to engage in discussion on message boards. They feel afraid -- like people are going to judge them, attack them or tease them if the make a single mistake, typo or voice an unpopular opinion. Anyway, it means *nothing* to me. LOL.

What part of America is China in?
Seriously? I make one tiny mistake and you have to resort to this? Your condescension simply appalls me. I can "woman up" and admit my err and I can laugh at myself. However, we have yet to see the same from you. You were absolutely wrong about Hiro being the first Asian American male to have a lead role in a Disney film. That title belongs to Russell in "Up." See, I simply provided you with the correct information with no condescension or snippy question and I didn't have to make huge deal about it.

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I don't know whether I should laugh, or cry.
LOL. Oh, just go ahead do both like *everyone* else. Enjoy.

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RSoxNo1

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And....that would fit the theme and purpose of Future World how exactly?
Not at all? Not even a little?

I didn't think so.:rolleyes:
There is an invention expo in the movie. If you're going to continue to put more characters in Epcot, the spot for Big Hero 6 would be in Innoventions.

I know you dismissed this movie pretty quickly, but I liked it more than Wreck it Ralph.
 

Siren

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Original Poster
I'm so surprised that 'Dumb & Dumber To' stole the first spot with $38,000,000. However, the film got a huge lead from an early Thursday night release. It was just enough to edge out Big Hero Six by only $2,000,000.

Not to mention, Hunger Games: Mockingjay is coming out, so I hope BH6 can hold on to the number two spot. Frozen performed exceptionally well underneath Hunger Games: Catching Fire and went on to eventually outperform the film -- in a slow & steady approach. BH6 won't last as long as Frozen but it can still do quite well at the box office.

Big Hero 6 already is in the parks. It's got a nifty 3-D preview version of the movie playing at Disneyland, in the Magic Eye Theater just below Space Mountain in Tomorrowland. With a themed meet 'n greet with Hiro and Baymax next door in the Starcade.

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As for where it goes from here, and a permanent attraction in an American park, that's the $64,000 question. We should know the second weekend box office numbers about 18 hours from now.
This is so neat, thanks for sharing it! BH6 in a WDW park is probably a long shot and that's a shame, imo.

I still wonder why they had changed the characters so much.

Baymax originally was a hulkish battle bot and usually the "voice of reason" of hiro.
Wasabi was an asian japanese chef samurai.
and Fred actually had real powers (not a suit)


still, Baymax was adorable with his interactions with Hiro.
Wow, that's very interesting about the original characters! And, I totally agree that Baymax is so adorable.

That confounds me.
In my not so humble opinion, Interstellar is a minor masterpiece. Easily the best film this year.
Stranger things have happened like 'Dumb & Dumber To' beating BH6 and Interstellar this week, lol. And, it appears that Interstellar is performing very well internationally -- kind of like Transformers: Age of Extinction.

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But seriously, Rotten Tomatoes gave this film only 27% and the audience gave it 60%.

BH6 seems like it would fit well in EPCOT... I'd love to see some gigantic thrill-simulator-dark ride of BH6 take place in the Ellen pavilion! I mean... imagine AAAALLLL of that SPACE!! They'd have enough to build two identical tracks in the building.. ALSO using that very first pre-show room as a queue-line area.

Think the style of Spider Man, Escape from Gringotts or Transformers at Universal Studios.. It would be pretty darn AWESOME especially given all of that flipping space in that pavilion... They could even do it the way they're going to run a fastpass pass-only track at Hollywood Studios and then a regular standby track... That'd definitely boost that area of the park back up.
Nice post! I think Big Hero 6 is a perfect fit for Epcot, too!

And....that would fit the theme and purpose of Future World how exactly?
Not at all? Not even a little?

I didn't think so.:rolleyes:
Big Hero 6 is a perfect fit for Epcot Innoventions and Future World, it's so obvious to me that you haven't see the film as yet -- otherwise, you would not hold such a tepid opinion. You really need to go and see it and become inspired! Robotics is a perfect fit for Future World and so is Health & Wellness.

Seriously, Big Hero 6 is not a "kiddie" film & the villain was so creepy to me.

Actually, there's a decent bit of discussion of robotics and different technology in the film and there's even a (brief) science expo. You actually could develop a quality and on theme Future World attraction using Big Hero 6, but the issue would be the execution. WDI would almost certainly pull a Nemo and do some lame retelling of the movie as opposed to using the characters to actual educate and inspire in a way detached from the movie plot.
Very well said & I totally agree.

Fair enough. In "buddy films" like Up (which is kinda what it is), it can be hard to ascertain who's the lead and who's the sidekick.
Touche'.
 

Lee

Adventurer
Big Hero 6 is a perfect fit for Epcot Innoventions and Future World, it's so obvious to me that you haven't see the film as yet
Not "as yet." I won't be seeing it. No interest in it at all. Zero

- otherwise, you would not hold such a tepid opinion. You really need to go and see it and become inspired! Robotics is a perfect fit for Future World and so is Health & Wellness.
Robotics and Health and Wellness are (and have been) indeed perfect fits for Future World.
Both have had a major presence there in the past.

My issue is that the themes are strong enough to not require a cartoon tie-in to be worthy of inclusion. No need to dumb it down by adding characters that just may happen to have some degree of connection.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Technically, Mulan is the first Asian-American to lead a Disney film
Now that I think about it, that may actually be a fair and more apt description of Mulan than 'Chinese'.

The Disney Mulan is a distinctly American character. The way Frozen is a distinctly American film, about American culture, with American characters, set in a visually Norwegian but culturally American landscape.

In the Disney movie, Mulan in the end gets her lover, and she lives happily ever after. In the recent Chinese Mulan movie, the heroine in the end choses duty and fatherland over her love interest, sacrificing her individual self-expression. The latter is a Chinese character, set in a Chinese cultural environment. The former is an American character with American aspirations, but with Chinese looks and background - for which Asian-American is maybe not all that misplaced a term.
 
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WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Not "as yet." I won't be seeing it. No interest in it at all. Zero

You don't want to see the movie? You haven't seen the movie? Yet you go ahead and claim that it has absolutely no theming that can fit into EPCOT..? This is what your argument sounds like..

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You probably should have accepted the "likes" you received and then kept quiet. :p
 

Lee

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You don't want to see the movie? You haven't seen the movie? Yet you go ahead and claim that it has absolutely no theming that can fit into EPCOT..? This is what your argument sounds like..

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You probably should have accepted the "likes" you received and then kept quiet. :p
*sigh* Kids...:rolleyes:
I haven't seen it. I won't be seeing it. I don't need to see it.

I know it is an animated feature, with animated characters. Neither of which need to be, or should be, shoehorned into Epcot just because they are popular.

And all my arguments are valid. All.
 

Lee

Adventurer
Nobody on this site can ever think of a better argument against me than that.. That's just pretty sad. I'm not the only one on this thread that has said that BH6 can fit well in EPCOT.
Oh, I have a far better argument.

The argument isn't can it fit. The argument is should it.
My stance is, and will remain, animated characters shouldn't be shoehorned into Epcot.

If the movie does well enough to merit an attraction, it's welcome to one. Somewhere other than Epcot.

Mater doesn't belong in Test Track. Planes doesn't belong in Soarin'. Monsters Inc. doesn't belong in Energy. And Living Seas was better before Nemo invaded it.
 

doctornick

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The argument isn't can it fit. The argument is should it.
My stance is, and will remain, animated characters shouldn't be shoehorned into Epcot.

If the movie does well enough to merit an attraction, it's welcome to one. Somewhere other than Epcot.

Mater doesn't belong in Test Track. Planes doesn't belong in Soarin'. Monsters Inc. doesn't belong in Energy. And Living Seas was better before Nemo invaded it.

But does Figment belong in Imagination? How about the characters in Cranium Command?

I think the key aspect with your point of view is the term "shoehorned". Characters absolutely should not be "shoehorned" into Epcot -- the very nature of that term implies them being used in a way that isn't appropriate.

However, there is IMHO nothing wrong with using cartoon characters in Epcot if they are used properly and fit into the environment. The characters of Big Hero 6 could be used in a way that would mesh well with an ideal Future World. I could absolutely see Hiro and Baymax appearing in a quality attraction in Innoventions dealing with robotics or health -- but the key is the execution, not the use of characters themselves.
 
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Lee

Adventurer
But does Figment belong in Imagination? How about the characters in Cranium Command?

I think the problem with your point of view is the term "shoehorned". Characters absolutely should not be "shoehorned" into Epcot -- the very nature of that term implies them being used in a way that isn't appropriate.

However, there is IMHO nothing wrong with using cartoon characters in Epcot if they are used properly and fit into the environment. The characters of Big Hero 6 could be used in a way that would mesh well with an ideal Future World. I could absolutely see Hiro and Baymax appearing in a quality attraction in Innoventions dealing with robotics or health -- but the key is the execution, not the use of characters themselves.
I disagree a bit.

If a great robotics exhibit can be designed without the involvement of characters, that is the way to go. And by characters, I mean ones from whatever the latest animated feature happens to be. Synergy isn't a good enough reason.

Original characters like Figment and Buzzy are different. They are there to assist the message/story of their attraction. The attractions weren't designed to assist them, as is the case with Maelstrom/Frozen.
 

doctornick

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If a great robotics exhibit can be designed without the involvement of characters, that is the way to go. And by characters, I mean ones from whatever the latest animated feature happens to be. Synergy isn't a good enough reason.

But what is wrong with having characters in such an exhibit? Where I disagree with you is the blanket rejection of them. Why can't a robotics attraction have Baymax involved if it enhances the experience?

Original characters like Figment and Buzzy are different. They are there to assist the message/story of their attraction. The attractions weren't designed to assist them, as is the case with Maelstrom/Frozen.

I'm not arguing for Frozen in Norway -- it's the exact point of the "shoehorned" case you made. That shouldn't happen.

But just because Frozen doesn't belong in Norway doesn't mean that characters don't belong in Epcot. And I don't see any reason why it should matter if the characters are original to Epcot or established -- what matters is how the characters are used and how they fit.

We can agree to disagree, but I just hate when people talk in absolutes.
 

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