"We Will Win" signs posted over Universal Orlando

[bearboysnc]

Keep the new resorts coming, keep the Spider-man's coming, keep trying to win. I love Disney, but I love what Universal has been doing of late also.

Though it all, WE are the winners. Because of the competion between parks, the guests are getting a better product. More unique attractions, better service, maybe even lower prices.

Do you think Disney would have developed TOT & RNR if it didn't have a Thrill park next door?

Do you think U.S. would be driven to provide friendlier service if Disney hadn't set a standard?

Maybe, maybe not.

Both seem to be thriving, so let them battle it out!

 

[stingrock23]

Universal has great parks, but they probably won't ever catch up to Disney. But, I'm glad they're at least trying, because that just means better things for the public. With them doing what they can do to get better, that will also push disney to remain ahead, which is good for all of us.

 

[WDWCook]

Universal will not beat disney for 1 simple factor you can do both there parks in under a day, Disney it takes most people atleast a day per park though a few folks can do all 4 in one day

 

[wdwcrazy]

You need a full day to do both IoA and Universal Studios at least in the summer. We arrived at both parks right at opening and we could not get everything done. We used our third free day to finish everything up.

 

[WDWspider]

We went in Oct and it took a day for each park. Of course the hours may be shorten in Oct. but there was no way we could have done more than that.

 

[DisneyKrazed]

You need at least one full day at IOA but for US you really only need half a day. Only worth while things there are MIB, Terminator, Back to the Futer, and if your brother is picked for Nick, then that.

 

[stingrock23]

When I go, i usually spend 2 total days there, but each day i do both parks. That way i have extra time to do some little things around there and enjoy myself.

 

[Justin]

Hey thats cool man, Its just hard online to understand how people r talking to u, u dont know if there yelling or getting ticked of at u or what lol. Im not saying that Universal really coppied the concept. Im just saying they started the concept idea. Spiderman also uses a Simulated Motion and we all Started that with Star Tours. However Spider~Man is a better ride. I have not yet done Terminator 2 3-D either. Alot of the stuff Universal gets is high tech though. I wish Disney would get more out of them. Is Terminator 2 3-D much like the movie or does it have a different Storyboard on it?

What Disney once saw in the past was amazing to the world cause not anyone has seen stuff like it. I heard that people even catagorized Space Mountain worse than going upsidedown ause the concept of it being the highest and only rollercoaster ride in the dark at the time.....

I know what u mean about Disney being on TC. That was a great presentation. Im saying i wish they would make some rides that would get voted top out of the states or something. The only one that has done good so far is ToT and TT, I think ToT got a Golden Ticket for being the best Drop ride... but i have just heard that.. I didn't even know they gave Golden tickets to drop rides. And i heard Test Track won thrill ride and most hard worked attraction of the year?

I still dont think rides will get much more high tech than Test Track though.

 

[wdwcrazy]

This may intrest many of you: http://www.usatoday.com/travel/vacations/destinations/2002/2002-06-28-universal.htm

Any thoughts?

 

[Justin]

ah!

Bah, I hate how This is all coming out, I like Both Parks very much... But Disney really does need to aim for thrills, I know its not what they want but they need to. :brick:

There running their parks great but so is Universal and there packing one heck of a punch at Disney. If Disney doesn't react to this fast were not goign to go anywhere

Universal has tooken over and they probably will. But however this goes We all know that Disney still draws the most families..and memories but not Seekers like ACE.

 

[pheneix]

The USA Today article should provide some nice publicity for Universal. It is more of a fluff piece than anything else.

But there was one thing about the article that stuck out. Am I the only one that was surprised by how much of an arrogant Al Weiss was? I don't know what kind of context those comments were made in, but they really came across as very rude and condescending, considering that one of them was false. At least Bob Gault is not running around trashing WDW. This comment really struck a chord with me:

>>>"Let me put it in perspective for you," says Al Weiss, president of Disney World. "Universal's critical mass is still less than what (Disney) offered 25 year ago."<<<

That is ridiculous. Let's see, 25 years ago, what did Disney have? Three resorts, one theme park, a couple of golf courses, a dining/shopping, and a camp ground? What does Universal have? Two theme parks, three resorts, a dining/shopping district, and a water park. They both have their differences, but I believe that Universal has a second theme park rather than a campground and some golf courses has a slight edge. If he was referring the actual land ownership, then he would be correct, but considering that Universal has basically comfortably into under a 1,000 acres that Disney spent over 6,000 acres for, that doesn't really matter.

I think the real point of the fluff- er, article, is the first sentence:

"Bad news, Mickey. Your days of dominating tourism to Orlando may be numbered."

That is true. The days of WDW being the only major resort in town are officially history. Over the next few years, Universal is going to hammer that fact home, and if Weiss's comments are any indication, they are not going to see it coming.

I sincerely hope that Disney is not going to choke on the humble pill they are about to swallow.

 

[DISNEY_FAN_ME]

I guess your right about that! Except, you know that if Disney falls behind or becomes second they will just make a bigger and better park to become #1 and take total domination for the time being.

 

[Justin]

Yeah, Right Now Disney is doing bad

i agree with Phenix, Disney's not doing at all what they r suppose to. Especially what Weiss said. Thats really away to bring home the magic by smashing it with Insulting another theme park.


Not trying to get into this again. but if Disney wants more Tourism they have to show what everyone wants. Just not Disney Fans.... There going to need to make a bigger and better park with lots of thrills and family attractions,lots of shows and rollercoasters, plenty of thrill rides. And little kid areas. Universal knew what they were doing when they made IOA and they did a dang good job on it. :brick: :brick:

Disney cant afford that we have to Charge back and give them a taste. If Disney wants their tourism back, There going to definately need alot of more stuff. I mean Universal has just begun Smashing Disney, with IOA and they have almost just as much as we do in 2parks and with their resorts, Disney is going to have to charge and fast!

Were getting hammered into the ground and Universal is doing it. :hammer:

 

[pheneix]

>>>Were getting hammered into the ground and Universal is doing it.<<<

I wouldn't say that right now. I think Universal is still perfecting their grip on that hammer.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

POC, Spaceship Earth, Maelstrom and Universe of Energy all still have good attendance so there is obviously a place for that type of ride with the paying public. This also is what I feel Disney does better than anyone, and is why Universal is avoiding it, and even thinking of bining Kong. It seems strange that there so reluctant to build this type of ride, especially given there falre and expertise.
I want my thrills, but if that was all i looked for Id travel up the road to Drayton Manor or a bit further to Alton Towers, not fly half way round the world.
I do love all the Orlando Parks (except wet n wild, Im sure you only get employed there if your hormonal) but I just want Disney to be more..... well, Disney!

 

[Justin]

your right Phenix, I still do think that their not quite there just working there way up there.

Disney does do good jobs on small rides like those like u said, Maelstrom,PotC,and so forth. I think that if there going to keep it going they need to do upgrades though. Disney is built in for more family style, and thats what there doing.

If Disney needs to be more perspective though they need to make some more stuff. Everyone loves there rides and old style family stuff, but does anyone get bored on them after over and over and over. It actually seems like Disney has more to do than Universal, but Universal's ride can sometimes be... better.

Disney is just known for the King Of Bringing Familys together. :king:

 

[pheneix]

>>>but does anyone get bored on them after over and over and over<<<

For the most part, no. But a good number of the crud that Disney has been passing as attractions do get boring.

>>>It actually seems like Disney has more to do than Universal, but Universal's ride can sometimes be... better.<<<

That sums it up perfectly.

 

[MKCustodial]

Originally posted by pheneix
>>>but does anyone get bored on them after over and over and over<<<

For the most part, no. But a good number of the crud that Disney has been passing as attractions do get boring.

>>>It actually seems like Disney has more to do than Universal, but Universal's ride can sometimes be... better.<<<

That sums it up perfectly.

I don't care how much developed technology gets, I don't think any generation will cease to be amazed at stuff like Pirates or Jungle Cruise, while your average coaster is forgotten as soon as you walk into the next one. :animwink:

 

[Justin]

yeah, True Disney does pass out some pretty crappy stuff here and there. Do u know what PhilarMagic is? Lol i know that sounds like a dumb question, but i haven't been to Disney in a while cause i go to Universal now....
However Still a Disney and Universal Fan

 

[mkt]

Originally posted by Justin
Disney created they coppied.

When im going to Universal i will see sighns that say. Hulk "The best Steel Coaster in the World" Thats all bull !@$& I like RnR more than Hulk!

wrong.... Hulk was open first, then RnR came about.... which was not designed by Disney.

Originally posted by Justin
Disney created they coppied.

Universal also took Dueling Dragons away from us.... so were left behind.

no. Disney was dumb, and passed on a damn good idea, and then fired the imagineers responsible for it. This was not Universal taking it from Disney.. this was Universal buying it from the designers. Damn good move on their part.