Because as far as Nissan is concerned, in global markets, the Infiniti G is known as the current Skyline.
This is much like the Tempest and GTO separation
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This is much like the Tempest and GTO separation
WDWFREAK53
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garyhoov
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The Razor was cool!
But I think we're much more likely to see the Demon than the Razor.
And I think the chances of seeing even the Demon are slim now that Dodge is going through the transition and cutting corners.
The Fairlady is the Japanese market name for the 350Z, same as the Nissan Skyline/Infiniti G.
The Skyline/GT-R split is like the Tempest/GTO split.
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WDWFREAK53
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The Razor was cool!
But I think we're much more likely to see the Demon than the Razor.
And I think the chances of seeing even the Demon are slim now that Dodge is going through the transition and cutting corners.
The Razor had more personality...the Demon just looks like a Charger mated with a Honda S2000.
DMC-12
It's HarmonioUS, NOT HarmoniYOU.
But I think we're much more likely to see the Demon than the Razor.
And I think the chances of seeing even the Demon are slim now that Dodge is going through the transition and cutting corners.
I like it... it looks like a Miata and a Viper had a secret love child...lol :lol:
DMC-12
It's HarmonioUS, NOT HarmoniYOU.
BTW... I smoked one on the way home from Wisconsin last night... younger kid... trying to act all hard... would not let me merge... so I dropped it in 4th and punched it. He kept up for the first 5 seconds.. after that... he was just a blur in my rear mirrors. :lol:
garyhoov
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If - like me - you thought the Porsche Cayenne was one of the worst abominations around, I've got something for you.
First, in case you're not familiar with the Ducati 748, here it is:
Now here's a "custom" version being offered on E-Bay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/WORL...ryZ10062QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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First, in case you're not familiar with the Ducati 748, here it is:
Now here's a "custom" version being offered on E-Bay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/WORL...ryZ10062QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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WDWFREAK53
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flynnibus
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I wouldn't call the GTi a sports car either. Its a perfermance hatchback.. a 'GT' version of a daily beater car.
Great for the 40 somethings who think they must haul their kids and still have a rumble under the hood I guess.
This is a winless arguement - but if I were to summarize, its a purpose built car for handling, speed, and with style. Weight, height, and overall size tend to be counter to those goals.
Lotus Elise - great example of sports car
SRT-4 - great example of performance car - not sports car
A Maybach has a bigger motor, more power, and probably better handling then those retro land whales Detroit is dreaming up... but I wouldn't call it a sports car.
WDWFREAK53
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I want to apologize...after reading my post to you when you quoted it...it could've come across like I was calling you out when I wasn't. I just truly wanted to know what your idea of a sports car was.
I agree with you totally on what you believe a sports car is.
I don't even consider the STi or the Evo to be a sports car...I would only classify them as rally cars even though they are built from the ground up with "speed and handling" in mind.
Here is my next question though. Would you consider it a sports car if it was built for the purpose of being a sports car but shared the same platform as other non-sports cars in a lineup?
garyhoov
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Yes, you're right...it doesn't fit on that bike...but the artwork and use of colors is pretty damn good.
and oh yeah...I took this for you Gary
Cool!! Did Ducati have a display, or was it just a local dealer?
The Buell 1125R was doing some tire testing at Daytona yesterday:
The 2008 racing season should be fun. 2009 should be even better.:zipit:
WDWFREAK53
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Cool!! Did Ducati have a display, or was it just a local dealer?
The Buell 1125R was doing some tire testing at Daytona yesterday:
The 2008 racing season should be fun. 2009 should be even better.:zipit:
Actually, Gary...you'd be the person to ask!
Everyday I drive by a local bike shop...and there's a sign out front that says, "Fill your tires with nitrogen here." What is the purpose of using nitrogen?
The only thing I can think of is the fact that it may keep the tires cooler?
That was just a local Ducati dealer.
flynnibus
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No worries - I didn't take it that way. I was just trying to say there is no 100% answer to that question. For every definition, we can come up with exceptions that people still would generally agree are a sports car invalidating the suggested definition. I've been down that road before in other forums - and it's not pretty
Well.. the true rally cars are - not the street cars
They still are performance variants of a sedan. Just like a M3 is.Sharing PLATFORM - I don't have an issue with and I don't really consider it a huge factor. Why? Part of that is that it simply is a reality of mass production and modern car design. Designers start with a known platform because it addresses so many engineering and design requirements immediately - and then work from there.
I think the platform thing gets taken a bit too extreme when people argue 'well its built on the same platform as XYZ' - in most cases the common platform is the START point and is modified from there. It's not like both cars have identical chassis in most cases.
Platform sharing is not the same as modifying an existing car design and taking new directions (such as the Neon to SRT-4, or M3 designs from the 3 series).
I look at the purpose built argument in regards to when making decisions and compromises - does sport/performance dominate the decisions? If looking at the rear of the car.. Is it trunk capacity, or is it weight distribution that is more important? etc Is the car designed for the get-go to be a sports car, or was it a product modified to be more sporty?
A simple example... A camero is a sports car. A Z34 Lumina is not
WDWFREAK53
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No worries - I didn't take it that way. I was just trying to say there is no 100% answer to that question. For every definition, we can come up with exceptions that people still would generally agree are a sports car invalidating the suggested definition. I've been down that road before in other forums - and it's not pretty
Well.. the true rally cars are - not the street cars
Sharing PLATFORM - I don't have an issue with and I don't really consider it a huge factor. Why? Part of that is that it simply is a reality of mass production and modern car design. Designers start with a known platform because it addresses so many engineering and design requirements immediately - and then work from there.
I think the platform thing gets taken a bit too extreme when people argue 'well its built on the same platform as XYZ' - in most cases the common platform is the START point and is modified from there. It's not like both cars have identical chassis in most cases.
Platform sharing is not the same as modifying an existing car design and taking new directions (such as the Neon to SRT-4, or M3 designs from the 3 series).
I look at the purpose built argument in regards to when making decisions and compromises - does sport/performance dominate the decisions? If looking at the rear of the car.. Is it trunk capacity, or is it weight distribution that is more important? etc Is the car designed for the get-go to be a sports car, or was it a product modified to be more sporty?
A simple example... A camero is a sports car. A Z34 Lumina is not
Very nice description and I definitely agree.
That is one of the reasons I went and bought the Z. There was no question about it...it was purely a sportscar from looks, to performance...to spirit.
flynnibus
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Nitrogen is more stable and maintains the tire pressure better... in most part because you are displacing 'air' which is a mix of water vapor, oxygen AND nitrogen... with just nitrogen.
So instead of filling your tires with a mix of stuff.. that has numerous properties... you fill your tires with just one.
More stable.. better retention of tire pressure through various condition.
flynnibus
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Which Z? The Z4 or the Nissan Z?