gobstoper27
Well-Known Member
I'm sorry, but I dont care where it's located,but no buffet is worth 60-90 bucks!! How much food would you have to pile on your plates to really get your monies worth?
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WDW to Raise All Buffet Prices By Almost 50%?
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xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Oh, I know. I was being facetious. There was those snack threads a few weeks ago wherein many folks were telling us TDO has a right, and more then that a shareholder responsibility to price gouge guests.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
More than an average human can eat in a day. Perhaps an active young teenager who is still growing vertically could get close to making it work value wise
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
The funny thing is the maximize shareholder value meme came from the junk bond King and convicted criminal Michael Miliken
Businesses operated profitably before then by simply making a consistent profit growth was considered nice but consistency was more valuable
lebeau
Well-Known Member
You know, you hear that argument often enough and you can't even tell when people are kidding anymore!
asianway
Well-Known Member
A ton. Think about it - a 10 day trip, family of 4, and a plan that requires you to almost game the system to come out ahead? Skip one sit down and not make it up - you lose.
Dad comes down with the stomach flu and does eat much for 3 days? You lose
Decide to go off property due to finding out about an interesting restaurant? You lose
Hoard snack credits then realize you cant possible eat them all the last three days? You lose
Use up said snack credits on a 72 credit orgy at Goofys Candy Co to take home wrapped goods? You still lose. No, you wouldnt have bought it anyway.
Remember when we were up in arms about losing the prime rib?
CJR
Well-Known Member
The funny thing is, for the time it often takes to get seated (even with a reservation, in some cases), you could go eat off property, get a bigger portion, for over half the price. Of course, but then, it's not Disney magic.
In my opinion, the very most magical thing about Disney is how people are OK waiting so long for food, paying insane prices for the food, can sometimes have trouble hearing the people sitting at their own table, and still go home and say on social media that they had a great time. That is true magic right there.
In my opinion, the very most magical thing about Disney is how people are OK waiting so long for food, paying insane prices for the food, can sometimes have trouble hearing the people sitting at their own table, and still go home and say on social media that they had a great time. That is true magic right there.
Daveeeeed
Well-Known Member
Disney is purposefully trying to lower attendance which sounds crazy, but they raised the prices so much and with everything too, so that there won't be as high waits, as many people that you feel like you are going to be squashed, and to take people away from peak times. And they make even a larger profit as it is offset by the extra money per ticket. And as there are less people obviously there's going to be less people at the hotels, but it only fell by 1%, while guest spending per room is up by 5%, so Disney is actually making more money now that there is not a gain in attendance. I think the parks are just going to receive a smaller gain like .6% or 1% I don't see them all slightly falling in attendance, but it really doesn't make that big of a difference because they are making much more with equal or even less people. They're trying to take people away from the Magic Kingdom and spread them out to the other parks. That's why New Fantasyland was just for capacity not new people. Animal Kingdom is to attract new people. They'll be more than happy if they can take people away from the Magic Kingdom if they go to the other Disney parks. So I doubt all the buffets will have a rise, but just some. Probably mainly in The Magic Kingdom & Chef Mickey's. But still they're trying to have a much higher guest spending per person, and have less people which so far has been working well.
Daveeeeed
Well-Known Member
The Disney Dining Plan has always been a way for Disney to make more money. They wouldn't do it if that would not be the case. Same with DVC, it takes like 20 something years for that to be worth it for the buyer, yet Disney still comes out on top as they have a confirmed amount of cash. Disney Dining Plan is like Insurance for Disney. If one family would use it it wouldn't be worth it, but when you have so many people many are bound not to use at least a couple of meals that paired with the fact that you already have so many meals prepaid for.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
The food prices at WDW are exactly why I bring in my own snacks.
Happy 45th Anniversary!!!
I seem to recall stating that Disney would celebrate their 45'th with price increases... Looks like I was correct sadly.
stretchsje
Well-Known Member
This is very good news for all the delivery food services in the area.
Daveeeeed
Well-Known Member
I've always wondered why Disnwy doesn't do that. They could have like the top dishes at some restaraunts in WDW to be orders to your room.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
It depends on the Buffet, Many Buffet's are already in the Mid-High 40's so the percentage increase there is only 15% or so, But trails end actually would be a 100% increase as it's only 29.95 now so I think what's being said is over all the buffet's the average increase is 50% assuming a 59.99 pricetag for adults.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Don't worry Disney will ban food deliveries if/when they push this steaming pile into production.
asianway
Well-Known Member
Here was the official spin on removing the Prime Rib:
The official, company line is that the switch was made for aesthetic reasons. Lenny DeGeorge told me that prime rib is not meant to be cut into small slices, which is how people in a buffet situation request it. He says they want smaller portions because they're sampling a lot of different things and don't want to fill up on just prime rib. And when cutting small pieces you can get a lot of fat.
asianway
Well-Known Member
You obviously never did the dining plan 10 years ago. You could easily come out ahead without trying hard at all.
Uncle Theodore
Member
Does anyone know what % of visitors use the dinning plan? Or what % use the "Free" dining plan?
Just wondering if the new increases in price/dinning credits will drive people away from "free" dinning, which isn't free but that's another subject. Or will it actually increase the people purchasing the "free" dining since no one will be able to go out of pocket?
Trying to determine how this will effect the availability of restaurants on property if it will at all.
Just wondering if the new increases in price/dinning credits will drive people away from "free" dinning, which isn't free but that's another subject. Or will it actually increase the people purchasing the "free" dining since no one will be able to go out of pocket?
Trying to determine how this will effect the availability of restaurants on property if it will at all.
bugsbunny
Well-Known Member
Yes, those were the days when it was in its infancy. Appetizer, meal, dessert, AND 18% gratuity all built into the DDP. And it was like $35/adult/day for one table, one quick, and one snack. And pretty much all the good restaurants but a few were 1 table service.
The servers all complained that the fixed gratuity was bad for them so that was negotiated. That came off and then the appetizer. And the price went up like $5/day. So lost 20% of the value and now it costs $5 more a day? Then Disney tightened up the menus by shrinking them and consolidating what cuts of meat were available across restaurants, etc. Raise the prices a little more and that's when it really became a cash cow for them.
The price has essentially doubled in 10-12 years, has reduced value, reduced menus, and somehow people think that paying ahead for $2000 worth of food is a great deal! If you knew what you use to get or break out that you are spending 4 months worth of grocery money for 1 weeks worth of WDW food, you can see it's just not anything more than a cash cow for WDW.
