WDW Spirited Quickees

[spacemt354]

I respect everyone's opinions I just think it is wrong to call someone evil for posting theres.

Yes I do too. That's why the 'ignore' button is a great tool to use so that we don't have to stoop to their level in order to get that message across.

PS: You should contact the police about your missing sense of humor. Once you get it back, I'm pretty sure you'll realize I didn't literally mean that the poster is Meg Crofton.

Phew, thanks for clearing things up for me. The case for my missing sense of humor is under investigation by the police. I need it back soon because I could have sworn you meant that literally. Oh man, I never was good with sarcasm.

 

[Captain Chaos]

Yes I do too. That's why the 'ignore' button is a great tool to use so that we don't have to stoop to their level in order to get that message across.



Phew, thanks for clearing things up for me. The case for my missing sense of humor is under investigation by the police. I need it back soon because I could have sworn you meant that literally. Oh man, I never was good with sarcasm.

Sometimes I agree with you, sometimes I don't, but your first comment, I completely agree with you... Putting certain members on ignore works wonders... Their nonsense disappears and makes for a much better experience..

 

[nytimez]

Yes I do too. That's why the 'ignore' button is a great tool to use so that we don't have to stoop to their level in order to get that message across.



Phew, thanks for clearing things up for me. The case for my missing sense of humor is under investigation by the police. I need it back soon because I could have sworn you meant that literally. Oh man, I never was good with sarcasm.

That's OK, my wife doesn't get sarcasm either. Hey, you're not my wife, are you?*


*I know you're not my wife. Or do I?

 

[spacemt354]

That's OK, my wife doesn't get sarcasm either. Hey, you're not my wife, are you?*


*I know you're not my wife. Or do I?

Don't fret. I'm not your wife. Although I do read the New York Timez, so we have that in common.

PS If you couldn't tell, I was being sarcastic in the second half of my previous post. I got the sarcasm in your original post. I also like the irony of your avatar in relation to the potential Avatar project in WDW.

PPS I wasn't defending the countrybear post, just remarking on the reactions to it.

PPPS I've never written that either. First time for everything.

PPPPS Now we are just getting carried away

 

[CBOMB]

As usual, the evil, uncaring spirit is completely wrong on everything he posts. His lies have been growing and growing for so many years that I can see his nose growing from outside my window.

He makes fun of his Mother's cooking too!

 

[CBOMB]

I love how when someone on this site has a polorizing opinion that a majority of posters don't agree with, we don't respect the opinion, and don't take advantage of the convenient 'ignore' button. Instead, we have to comment on the poster's claims telling them how wrong they are, that they live in a basement, and that they are in fact Meg Crofton, simply for the echo chamber of likes we will receive in return.

Nothing like trying to cop a few likes when they're right there for the taking.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Agree with everything you said here. I am sorry to hear that she is in poor health and to that degree, I can cut her a little slack in terms of what is going on "right now" at WDW. But the problems and mismanagement started long before she fell ill and she still has responsibility for that in my mind.

I do not know anything except the occasional posts regarding Crofton dealing with an illness. That said, part of being a responsible leader is understanding when it may be time to stap aside. She should not be cut slack because of her health issues, because as a leader it is her responsibility to step aside and focus on what needs focus instead of holding on and allowing things to go awry. Now, as you said, I do think the issues arose well before Crofton even took charge of Walt Disney World, so my comments are more about the general notion of allowing some slack in poor decisions due to poor health.

 

[BlueSkyDriveBy]

Slim and none.

I'd bet on none.

FWIW, Lance posted today that the area behind DL's FL is being slated for a new Oz Land, based on the new Raimi film coming out early next year. I've heard that Baxter was working on a new project for Frontierland, so is this it?

 

[stevehousse]

The new OZ film looks great, but my heart belongs to Return to OZ! One of my favorite movies when I was a child!

 

[Kuhio]

I love how imaginative, yet dark, Return to Oz is... and the fact that it's truer to the original source material in a lot of ways than the 1939 MGM film is.

It's the perfect movie to show to any young children you might want to traumatize...

 

[Clever Name]

Electroshock convulsive therapy is always a popular subject matter for any Disney movie.

 

[DougK]

I don't want to sound like an apologist but I feel we should limit our attacks on Meg to a professional level not a personal level, Especially if the rumors about her health are true.

I agree with this, regardless of her health. Personal attacks are unwarranted.

 

[The MaD Hatter]

I don't want to sound like an apologist but I feel we should limit our attacks on Meg to a professional level not a personal level, Especially if the rumors about her health are true.

For the record, my "no soul" comment was never meant to be a personal attack on Meg. I obviously don't know her personally and can only speak about what I've seen from her as far as her role with the Disney Company goes. What I meant by "no soul" was that from a professional standpoint she (and other TDO execs) seems to make heartless business decisions at the expense of ripping the soul and creativity out of WDW. In my opinion, Walt was all about infusing his movies, TV shows, and theme parks with heart and soul (many times regardless of cost), whereas Meg is a businesswoman and seems to be the antithesis of that.

 

[Magenta Panther]

Electroshock convulsive therapy is always a popular subject matter for any Disney movie.

SERIOUSLY!!! Okay, we all have our opinions here...but in my opinion, in no way is "Return to Oz" more faithful to the source material. I have read every Baum-authored Oz book, and a couple by his successor, Ruth Plumly Thompson (whose work I don't care for, frankly)...and there is very very little in "Return" that has anything to do with the books. Oz was NOT a dark land. It was bursting with color, from the flash of emeralds to the Patchwork Girl's petticoat to glowing raiment of Polychrome, the Rainbow's Daughter. Oz certainly had some oddness in it...such as Princess Langwidere and her interchangeable heads...but dark it certainly was not. The Nome King in "Return" bears very little resemblance, either in appearance or in action, to Baum's Nome King. Baum's villain was jovial and rotund, wicked, yes, but not a creature to grow into a monster and try to devour people. And as for that electro-shock crap...in the books it didn't happen, would never happen, and neither Aunt Em nor Uncle Henry were concerned with Dorothy's tales of Oz. They just thought she was an imaginative kid who made things up, and the tales were a way to relieve the "grayness" of living in Kansas.

As for the 1939 film...it has a humor and a magic that perfectly captures the spirit of the Oz books without imitating them word for word. It has a great deal of heart too, which was an improvement on the books (Baum tended towards sappy sentiment at times, unfortunately), and the music..well, what can you say about that, except that it's simply superb and has never been matched except perhaps by Disney's "Mary Poppins"?

The trouble with many live-action fantasy films today (and I'm including the half-hearted Narnia films in this critique) is that Hollywood tends to treat them all the same way...with loads of darkness and muted color and more fright than delight. And I think that's because Hollywood thinks adults won't watch them otherwise. Boy is IT wrong. But that tendency makes me wary of this new Oz film. The Oz I've seen in the previews looks more like Tim Burton's Wonderland (what the heck is that toothy little flying thing?) and the witches look like castoffs from the "Wicked" musical. I'd love to see an Oz attraction in DHS (since it's a mish-mash of "guest star" attractions anyway), but ONLY if it's based on the 1939 film. That is the definitive version and nothing else will ever match up. JMHO.

 

[HMF]

For the record, my "no soul" comment was never meant to be a personal attack on Meg. I obviously don't know her personally and can only speak about what I've seen from her as far as her role with the Disney Company goes. What I meant by "no soul" was that from a professional standpoint she (and other TDO execs) seems to make heartless business decisions at the expense of ripping the soul and creativity out of WDW. In my opinion, Walt was all about infusing his movies, TV shows, and theme parks with heart and soul (many times regardless of cost), whereas Meg is a businesswoman and seems to be the antithesis of that.

Absolutely.

 

[nytimez]

For the record, my "no soul" comment was never meant to be a personal attack on Meg. I obviously don't know her personally and can only speak about what I've seen from her as far as her role with the Disney Company goes. What I meant by "no soul" was that from a professional standpoint she (and other TDO execs) seems to make heartless business decisions at the expense of ripping the soul and creativity out of WDW. In my opinion, Walt was all about infusing his movies, TV shows, and theme parks with heart and soul (many times regardless of cost), whereas Meg is a businesswoman and seems to be the antithesis of that.

That's actually how I took it.

Although, I don't think being a businesswoman (or businessman) means you have to be the antithesis of Walt. He made quite a bit of money, too (and sure, almost lost it all a few times along the way).

Probably is impossible in the current climate, however, where there is (sadly) nothing more important than the next quarterly report.

 

[stevehousse]

Got this from wiki

The film is based loosely on the second and third Oz books, The Marvelous Land of Oz (1904) and Ozma of Oz (1907). The element about Tik-Tok being "The Royal Army of Oz" derives from Tik-Tok of Oz (1914), in which he is made the Royal Army of Oogaboo, and also makes frequent cries of "Pick me up!" That book was itself based on a dramatic production, The Tik-Tok Man of Oz (1913)

 

[HMF]

Got this from wiki

The film is based loosely on the second and third Oz books, The Marvelous Land of Oz (1904) and Ozma of Oz (1907). The element about Tik-Tok being "The Royal Army of Oz" derives from Tik-Tok of Oz (1914), in which he is made the Royal Army of Oogaboo, and also makes frequent cries of "Pick me up!" That book was itself based on a dramatic production, The Tik-Tok Man of Oz (1913)

What Pink Floyd album will it sync to?

 

[WDW1974]

I don't want to sound like an apologist but I feel we should limit our attacks on Meg to a professional level not a personal level, Especially if the rumors about her health are true.

You don't. You sound like a level-headed classy person.

I have NEVER and will never attack the woman personally as I don't even know her (unlike some of the execs that get mentioned here). She may be a wonderful woman. I honestly don't know. I also don't care as it is of no moment to any discussion on her abilities in her position and the job she and the manegement team under her has been doing.

People need to separate the message from the person. It's the same crap I take when I tell someone their post is idiotic. Doesn't mean they are automatically a moron or have no use to the human species yet that's how people take criticism.

All I have to do is look at WDW under Meg to see what type of exec she is ... and that's not counting the stories that folks inside the company drop my way.

I wish her nothing but the best, truly. But I wish her the best outside TWDC ...

 

[WDW1974]

Any chance, anything about Downtown Disney?

There's always a chance ... and I'm sure they'll be whoring the opening of Splitsville (which won't be open by then unless a miracle happens), so it's certainly possible there will be another DD announcement. But don't look for anything of substance.

We all have seen the artwork of Hyperion Wharf after all ...