WDW Park Hours ... A Historical Perspective

WDW1974

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Quick question to you or anyone else...

When was EMH implemented?

The original version called 'early entry' started around 1990 or 91 and was originally just the MK. It later expanded to all parks (but DAK, which opened at 7 or 8 a.m. to begin with regularly anyway) and ran pretty much the same way until 2001 when it was ended after 9/11.

EMH returned in 2003 with the new name and added nights in 2004 for the first time.
 

WDW1974

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Also,

Thanks for posting the past schedules in this thread. It helps us younger adults to know what the park was doing when we were too young to know or care.

You're welcome.

So long as there's interest, I'll periodically update with more hours.

But since it's time consuming, I want to make sure people actually give a damn. So thanks!
 

EPCOT Explorer

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You're welcome.

So long as there's interest, I'll periodically update with more hours.

But since it's time consuming, I want to make sure people actually give a damn. So thanks!

I give a damn...It fills in the gaps on the maps I don't have.:lol:

And besides...It's Disney. That's what I'm here for.;)

[/Fanboy]
 

yankspy

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That's exactly what I am saying, so you aren't confused at all (at least when it comes to what I am saying).

And holding back tables really doesn't just favor locals ... it aids anyone who doesn't want to plan where they're going be having dinner on March 11, 2009 months and months in advance. Locals would have no more of advantage then tourists visiting for their once in three-year trip. Anyone would have access. Now, the system clearly is against locals though because they are most likely to decide to just stop in and want dinner.

And the parks should be open later for everyone when and where it makes sense.

I am not saying the MK shouldn't close most nights in January at 8 (as is the case after the latest cuts) ... but if summer of 2009 is busy then I fully believe EPCOT should remain open past 9 p.m. for ALL GUESTS NIGHTLY! (FWIW, one thing Jim MacPhee tried to do when he replaced Brad Rex as VP was to extend hours, but was shot down from above).
Your original statement said "walkups and locals". The implication was that locals were different than walkups. If you read the last sentence in my post I already said what you are saying in your 2nd paragraph.

As far as your first bolded comment, oh well, I guess I will just have to wander in the abyss of my utter confusion.
 

WDW1974

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I give a damn...It fills in the gaps on the maps I don't have.:lol:

And besides...It's Disney. That's what I'm here for.;)

[/Fanboy]

OK, Fanboy ... I'll see about adding some more hours later this week
(about the same time Disney execs will likely cut some more hours from January's schedule!:drevil:)
 

WDW1974

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OK ... let's get in the holiday spirit by seeing what WDW's first Christmas as a three-park resort looked like ... here's December 1989 hours (bTW, it was a very cold Chritsmas with a freeze and power outages across the state!)

MK

12/1-12/15 (9-7);
12/16-12/17 (9-10);
12/18-12/22 (9-8);
12/23 (9-10);
12/24 (9-6);
12/25-12/30 (8-midnight);
12/31 (8-2 a.m.);

MVMCP (yeah, it was around)
12/8 and 12/9 from 8 p.m. to 1 a.m.;

Candlelight Processional (yeah, it was at the MK and there were no dining packages)
12/16 and 12/17 at 7 p.m.;

Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Parade

Dec. 8 and 9 at 11 p.m.;
Dec. 16, 17, and 23 at 2 and 9 p.m.;
Dec. 24 at 2 p.m.;
Dec. 25-30 at 2 and 9 p.m.;
Dec. 31 at 2 p.m.;

Fireworks

Dec. 8-9 at 10 p.m.;
Dec. 16-17, 23 at 10 p.m.;
Dec. 25-30 at 10 p.m.;
Dec. 31 at 12 midnight;

EPCOT Center

12/1-12/23 (9-9);
12/24 (9-6);
12/25-12-30 (8-11);
12/31 (8-2 a.m.)

Illuminations
Dec. 1-23 at 9 p.m.;
Dec. 24 no show;
Dec. 25-30 at 10 p.m.;
Dec. 31 at 11:45 p.m.;

Disney-MGM Studios

12/1-12/23 (9-7);
12/24 (9-6);
12/25-12/31 (8-10);

Fireworks

Dec. 25-31 at 9:45 p.m.;
 

yankspy

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OK ... let's get in the holiday spirit by seeing what WDW's first Christmas as a three-park resort looked like ... here's December 1989 hours (bTW, it was a very cold Chritsmas with a freeze and power outages across the state!)

MK

12/1-12/15 (9-7);
12/16-12/17 (9-10);
12/18-12/22 (9-8);
12/23 (9-10);
12/24 (9-6);
12/25-12/30 (8-midnight);
12/31 (8-2 a.m.);

MVMCP (yeah, it was around)
12/8 and 12/9 from 8 p.m. to 1 a.m.;

Candlelight Processional (yeah, it was at the MK and there were no dining packages)
12/16 and 12/17 at 7 p.m.;

Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Parade

Dec. 8 and 9 at 11 p.m.;
Dec. 16, 17, and 23 at 2 and 9 p.m.;
Dec. 24 at 2 p.m.;
Dec. 25-30 at 2 and 9 p.m.;
Dec. 31 at 2 p.m.;

Fireworks

Dec. 8-9 at 10 p.m.;
Dec. 16-17, 23 at 10 p.m.;
Dec. 25-30 at 10 p.m.;
Dec. 31 at 12 midnight;

EPCOT Center

12/1-12/23 (9-9);
12/24 (9-6);
12/25-12-30 (8-11);
12/31 (8-2 a.m.)

Illuminations
Dec. 1-23 at 9 p.m.;
Dec. 24 no show;
Dec. 25-30 at 10 p.m.;
Dec. 31 at 11:45 p.m.;

Disney-MGM Studios

12/1-12/23 (9-7);
12/24 (9-6);
12/25-12/31 (8-10);

Fireworks

Dec. 25-31 at 9:45 p.m.;
MK total hours, December (Not including EMH)
1989=367
2008=395

Epcot total hours, December(Also not including EMH)
1989=393
2008=397

DHS total hours, December (No EMH)
1989=337
2008=360

To be fair, Epcot's hours may be hard to compare due to the whole separate WS and FW hours. I am not sure if they were doing that in 89. Feel free to check my math, I could be off somewhere.
 

EpcotServo

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MK total hours, December (Not including EMH)
1989=367
2008=395

Epcot total hours, December(Also not including EMH)
1989=393
2008=397

DHS total hours, December (No EMH)
1989=337
2008=360

To be fair, Epcot's hours may be hard to compare due to the whole separate WS and FW hours. I am not sure if they were doing that in 89. Feel free to check my math, I could be off somewhere.

S'ok Epcot's hours are always pretty much the same.
:lol:

Very interesting, nice work.
 

yankspy

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S'ok Epcot's hours are always pretty much the same.
:lol:

Very interesting, nice work.
Thanks. Just to be clear for everyone, I am not intending to show WDW74 up, I am simply trying to see if there is a vast difference in operating hours over the years. It comes up a lot. While this small sample does not necessarily prove that point either way, it does lend some food for thought. I do appreciate that WDW74 posted all of those old schedules.
 

BradleyJay

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OK ... let's get in the holiday spirit by seeing what WDW's first Christmas as a three-park resort looked like ... here's December 1989 hours

MVMCP (yeah, it was around)
12/8 and 12/9 from 8 p.m. to 1 a.m.;

Candlelight Processional
12/16 and 12/17 at 7 p.m.;

Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Parade
Dec. 8 and 9 at 11 p.m.;
Dec. 16, 17, and 23 at 2 and 9 p.m.;
Dec. 24 at 2 p.m.;
Dec. 25-30 at 2 and 9 p.m.;
Dec. 31 at 2 p.m.;

One thing I noticed about these hours from 19 Years ago.

Other than the TWO (2) nights of the the Candlelight Processional, the only time before Dec. 23 that the Christmas parade was performed Everyday was at the MVMCP.

Seems to go against some people assersion, that the recent addition of so many more Christmas parties has somehow made events like the Christmas parade stop being performed everyday in Dec for Free for everyone.
 

WDW1974

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Thanks. Just to be clear for everyone, I am not intending to show WDW74 up, I am simply trying to see if there is a vast difference in operating hours over the years. It comes up a lot. While this small sample does not necessarily prove that point either way, it does lend some food for thought. I do appreciate that WDW74 posted all of those old schedules.

If you aren't trying to show me up then you're one of the few here.

Thanks for the restraint!:ROFLOL:

But I am (or was as I'm not sure there's enough people reading to make this work worthwhile) showing a cross section of hours.

Your comparison is simply one month in 1989 to the same month this year. I don't think that any conclusions about long term trends can be found from a one month deal.

And while I am not surprised that MK and Studios have more hours in 2008 (the first two weeks of December were dead back in the 70s and 80s and I was at WDW around that period in '89 and recall the same).

But you are way off on EPCOT's comparison because they didn't do the split (9-7, 11-9) deal back then. So just on the 9-9 days you got half the park for two hours more ... and there are no 8-11 days this month at all ... and they even cut an hour off NYE as well.

Again, it's very hard to do a numbers comparison based on the way EPCOT is now run (a much less guest friendly way IMHO) where parts close at different hours and even then it isn't clear (keeping the thrill rides in FW open til 9 for instance) ... so again, I don't know how you'd do a fair comparison ... but I do know guests are getting less at the park.

And if you used one of my first months (say June 1990) to compare you'd see just how much less people get now.

Of course, I could pull schedules from the late 80s where say MK was 9-6 or 9-7 every day in October and EC was 9-8 or 9-9 at the same time ...

It isn't easy to draw conclusions except in the biggest picture way.

But thanks for reading!
 

WDW1974

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Original Poster
One thing I noticed about these hours from 19 Years ago.

Other than the TWO (2) nights of the the Candlelight Processional, the only time before Dec. 23 that the Christmas parade was performed Everyday was at the MVMCP.

Seems to go against some people assersion, that the recent addition of so many more Christmas parties has somehow made events like the Christmas parade stop being performed everyday in Dec for Free for everyone.

That would be my assertion and I stand by it ... at least in general.

Clearly in 1989 it was not performed daily and I am not sure exactly why.
But I know it was many other years because ... well, I lived it.

Oh, and just to point to today ... Disney announced they'd start showing the parade and Holiday Wishes on Dec. 20th instead of the 22nd or 23rd as scheduled. Looks like they need to get people in and they realize locals might be more amenable if they could see the X-Mas parade and fireworks on the weekend before the holiday then the seven year-old parade and regular pyro.

Of course at DL they'd have been able to see both daily since mid-November.
 

EPCOT Explorer

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That would be my assertion and I stand by it ... at least in general.

Clearly in 1989 it was not performed daily and I am not sure exactly why.
But I know it was many other years because ... well, I lived it.

Oh, and just to point to today ... Disney announced they'd start showing the parade and Holiday Wishes on Dec. 20th instead of the 22nd or 23rd as scheduled. Looks like they need to get people in and they realize locals might be more amenable if they could see the X-Mas parade and fireworks on the weekend before the holiday then the seven year-old parade and regular pyro.

Of course at DL they'd have been able to see both daily since mid-November.

They are learning, so it seems.
 

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