GeorgiaPinesRJB
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See, this is kind of what I said too but since I used the word troll, I'm now a forum pariah...
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WDW Falling apart??
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See, this is kind of what I said too but since I used the word troll, I'm now a forum pariah...
menamechris
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But would they have fixed it? No. They probably would have just closed it indefinetly. Seems to be the new way to take care of problems at WDW....
Goofyernmost
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The thing is that the only maintenance that it requires can be handled over time, at night. No need to shut it down. And that is just cosmetic...the damn thing is like the Rabbit...it just keeps going and going and going. I really don't know why cities haven't picked up on that type of dependability. In all the years I have been going there, it has never been down once, always continuously moving. They can easily take one train out at a time and fix the seating, but I've never seen that problem either. I'm either blind or lucky.
The Empress Lilly
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Please do put that video up. Was there not some sort of hard-wired prevention into the PeopleMover system that prevents cars from moving into other cars' zone?
Sounds scary. Speaking of which, last time I did the Mansion, the ride had stopped. I was still in the queue. Somehow, word didn't get out to 'upstairs' that the ride had broken down. The elevators kept delivering people to the waiting area, which was getting ever fullr and fuller. To the point where 'uncomfortable' gave way to 'dangerous'. Images of Hillsborough got in my mind, and I tried to make for the emergency exit, hoping to reach it before panic would break out. But too many people were in the way, one could no longer move anymore, and I didn't want to say or do anything that could spark a mass panic. Thankfully, the ride resumed duty, while some clever CM got wise to the situation and stopped adding people, so we were relieved.
I wish I had a video of that. It was just not safe - people underestimate the deadliness of a simple crowd, people have been trampled to death in less crowded situations.
^ now that sounds just crazy. I'll aim to get the video up. It's somewhere in my 21gigs of video from this trip. Do remind me.
Lucky I think. The past few trips it got to the stage where virtually whenever we walked through Tomorrowland we would see the vehicles stopped and roll or hear the PA blaring out. It used to be a bit of a thrill to see the WEDway do its roll backwards. Now it's worrying.
copcarguyp71
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I like your thinking...now quickly stop doing that before the overlords take notice!
copcarguyp71
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Can you cite some examples of this? I am not being confrontational I just don't remember that happening. Nets over Tree of Life queue yes and ugly tarps up at Splash loading area but those are efforts to keep attractions open. What have they closed entirely in lieu of maintenance?
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
20K
Swan Boats
Mike Fink Keelboats
Adventureland Terrace
Wonders of Life
Sounds Dangerous
copcarguyp71
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OK, I get those but the tone of the post made it sound like (at least how I read it) things more recently were being shut down in lieu of maintenance and having been to the world two weeks ago I had not seen that. Like I said I think they are taking steps to keep things open not shut things down because they do not want to fix them. Some of those rides I do not know about the technical issues but I think 20K was simply not cost effective (sometimes this happens) and I think WOL (which I miss) was due to not being able to retain a sponsor but perhaps that was just a contributing factor.
All of this points to the fact that we do not need a fifth gate but rather re-focus of where attention needs to be paid. No more additional resort hotels, no more additional DVC (oh man I am going to take flack for that!).
All of this points to the fact that we do not need a fifth gate but rather re-focus of where attention needs to be paid. No more additional resort hotels, no more additional DVC (oh man I am going to take flack for that!).
Goofyernmost
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And that, my friend is why the Imagination Pavilion is nothing more than a building now. Somebody had the nerve to get an idea originally and the rest couldn't handle it.
menamechris
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In addition to the list that was previously provided. Effects are now turned off - as opposed to repaired. This can be found with Thunder Mountain, Astro Orbitor, Splash Mountain, Dinosaur...the list really goes on and on. If there was a serious incident involving the PeopleMover (which was the case with Martin's example) - it is not a stretch to imagine Disney shutting it down for "maintenance" - never to reopen again. I just don't think they would invest in upgrading the technology.
hellowonderland
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We visited from 10/18 - 10/29 (cruised on the Dream from 10/14-10/18 and it was utterly fantastic) and at one point or another during our holiday, the following rides were down: Haunted Mansion, Splash, Space Mountain, Everest, Dinosaur, Pirates (heard a guest complaining at GR that she'd been stuck on it for 45 minutes and they had to physically move the boats by hand), the People Mover, Midway Mania... the list goes on. It was very disappointing - especially Splash, as the ride is obviously not working generally, and it used to be our favourite.
Animaniac93-98
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Bob, you are positively primeval.
Why thank you Bel...Animaniac93-98.
Animaniac93-98
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it seems like they can't get anything to work anymore
Tom Morrow
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Martin touched on this a few pages back... the Space Mountain audio. What exactly was the point of installing a new audio system if the music is so quiet its barely audible through most of the ride?? Also, on my last ride, the sound effect speakers were skipping. Also the re-entry tunnel has been out of sync since SM opened from refurbishment. I've heard people suggest that having the music louder would make it sound overly noisy and garbled - well... not sure if they do this anymore, but I rode Space Mountain during a Grad Nite event once, and they were blasting rock music inside the dome. VERY loud. It sounded just fine.
mickeysbrother
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All i know is since i have been visiting Disney World all the way back in 1985 there have always been rides that were closed or broken down. Being in line and BAM!!! shut down for technical difficulties. Disney will always have this because of there unique rides and always wanting a high turn around volume. Came back from my september trip and i really tried to see what everyone was talking about broken lights downed attractions and GUESS WHAT!!! Didnt really find anything. Yes Epcot is not the same as it was 80's early 90s. I get that. But still a great park. Splash mountain stopped working 3 times late september but didnt stop me from riding it the next day. Everything was working properly. Laughing room not as it was when it opened but still an ok scene. I remember when Splash first opened back in the day and there were days that it shut down. Do we just forget this or are we all to ignorant to remember the bad days in the past? We could find things that were wrong back in the 80 but hey there was no internet to express our feeling for lack of a Better/Cleaner word
ParentsOf4
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Two simple facts:
The change occurred in the mid 1990s when long-time WDW managers were forced to leave by Eisner and replaced by MBAs focused on cutting costs. This is not a criticism, this is a fact.
Shifting from fact to opinion, I'd be able to stomach it if WDW prices had remained in check. However, we all know what has happened to WDW prices over the last 2 decades. Last year is typical; Annual Passes up by 10%, Disney Dining Plan up by 12.5%. Ask the CMs if their wages went up by 10%.
- WDW's attractions are getting older.
- Maintenance budgets were cut under Eisner.
The change occurred in the mid 1990s when long-time WDW managers were forced to leave by Eisner and replaced by MBAs focused on cutting costs. This is not a criticism, this is a fact.
Shifting from fact to opinion, I'd be able to stomach it if WDW prices had remained in check. However, we all know what has happened to WDW prices over the last 2 decades. Last year is typical; Annual Passes up by 10%, Disney Dining Plan up by 12.5%. Ask the CMs if their wages went up by 10%.