WDW Falling apart??

hiptwinmama

Well-Known Member
As a former cast member.... I had friends that worked BTMRR in mid 90"s. They admitted that if they wanted to take a break they would run an extra train and that would often cause it to breakdown. And tada... a break to walk the tracks.
 

Jimmy Thick

Well-Known Member
The parks are not as broken as people want to pretend they are, or dramatize. The whole "the parks are falling apart" is just the case of a rumor getting bigger on the internet. Iam at the parks right now, I have seen a few things that I would fix, but to say the parks are "falling apart" is absurd.


Jimmy Thick- The internet posts lies all the time...
 

FrankLapidus

Well-Known Member
The parks are not as broken as people want to pretend they are, or dramatize. The whole "the parks are falling apart" is just the case of a rumor getting bigger on the internet. Iam at the parks right now, I have seen a few things that I would fix, but to say the parks are "falling apart" is absurd.

I agree. There are things at WDW that need work but it's a bit of an overstatement to say the resort is falling apart. There are rides that need work, Splash and Everest certainly, and their problems become more obvious because they're the grandstand attractions but it's a small number that stick out to me that have obvious things that should be fixed. I've never had a problem with Tower of Terror for example, maybe I've missed something but nothing there has ever stuck out to me as broken or problematic. It is a shame though that Disney don't put more effort into better maintaining those attractions that consistently have issues.
 

rufio

Well-Known Member
I don't see how the poster is a troll. I was at WDW in September and we were stuck on Splash Mountain for 25 minutes before we taken off the ride (that was our last day on the 15th so we were diappointed by that) and Big Thunder Mountain was down on three separate occasions over the course of the fortnight we were at the resort so I can empathise.

I don't normally post on threads like this, but I can't stay quite about this. Why, oh why is Thunder down so much?! Wasn't it JUST refurbed? It was closed during my trip in March for it's makeover. And they still can't keep it running? Why does this seem to happen so often with this particular ride?
 

FrankLapidus

Well-Known Member
I don't normally post on threads like this, but I can't stay quite about this. Why, oh why is Thunder down so much?! Wasn't it JUST refurbed? It was closed during my trip in March for it's makeover. And they still can't keep it running? Why does this seem to happen so often with this particular ride?

I thought the same thing in September. One evening when it was down we were over on Tom Sawyer Island and could see them testing the ride; there groups of 2 or 3 CM's standing at different points on the track while the train was sent around at slow speed. At every point it would stop and the CM's were checking them over so we thought that maybe the problem was with the trains themselves. We asked a CM one day what the problem was but they were quite vague and just said that it was a small problem they hoped could be fixed quite quickly and the ride would soon be back up and running. I don't know if it was the same problem that kept shutting BTMR down but evidently the ride had some gremlins Disney had yet to work out.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I don't normally post on threads like this, but I can't stay quite about this. Why, oh why is Thunder down so much?! Wasn't it JUST refurbed? It was closed during my trip in March for it's makeover. And they still can't keep it running? Why does this seem to happen so often with this particular ride?

I blame it on the lawyers. They are always to blame somehow;)
 

GeorgiaPinesRJB

Well-Known Member
The parks are not as broken as people want to pretend they are, or dramatize. The whole "the parks are falling apart" is just the case of a rumor getting bigger on the internet. Iam at the parks right now, I have seen a few things that I would fix, but to say the parks are "falling apart" is absurd.


Jimmy Thick- The internet posts lies all the time...

That is kind of my point...haha thanks Jimmy!
 

Jimmy Thick

Well-Known Member
I agree. There are things at WDW that need work but it's a bit of an overstatement to say the resort is falling apart. There are rides that need work, Splash and Everest certainly, and their problems become more obvious because they're the grandstand attractions but it's a small number that stick out to me that have obvious things that should be fixed. I've never had a problem with Tower of Terror for example, maybe I've missed something but nothing there has ever stuck out to me as broken or problematic. It is a shame though that Disney don't put more effort into better maintaining those attractions that consistently have issues.

For starters, the queue to Buzzlightyear is bad. Someone designed the queue on what looks like laminate floor instead of painting concrete, and the green floor looks very, very worn out. Some of the ride vehicles are brand new, some look dirty. Does it bother me when Iam riding, not in the least.

The Yeti on Everest I feel will never get fixed, because I think the animatronic was too ambitious and expensive to build and maintain at a reasonable cost. This is my opinion, but I feel Disney tried to pump out the ride too quick without doing it right.

Everything else I have seen so far is apples and oranges, nothing to get excited about, nothing to make me believe the parks are run down or falling apart.


Jimmy Thick- Take the vacation to WDW, its still great!!!
 

MerlinTheGoat

Well-Known Member
Indeed. Not a troll. Reporting facts.

You want my list of what was broken?
I agree the parks are in really dire condition. Most certainly not a troll, just reporting facts. And yes please post your list again, saw it in another topic and it cannot be overstated. It's a very thorough and extensive list of some of the more massive issues involving WDW.

The sad part is that it's gotten so serious that even long refurb periods don't even help much. It's inevitably when you leave your attractions to rot for years without attention, the problems creep up and you can't even fix everything anymore. Big Thunder for instance just received a massive refurb that lasted almost half a year. While the mountain was repainted and track work was done (and other infrastructure work), the ride still somehow reopened with famous effects on the first and third lift missing. Even the upside-down projection of "falling rocks" (which looks horrid) wasn't even turned upright in all this time they had. And in just a couple of months now, several of the geysers that had been fixed are now broken again.

Splash Mountain is an even more complex ride full of more things to go wrong (and they have gone wrong). Most of the animatronics aren't moving as they should be, the mountain needs a thorough and complete repaint from top to bottom, and most of the water effects are switched off in the Laughing Place. And to top that off, tarps have now been placed over the load area to apparently "protect" people from rockwork falling on guests, so it's clear it's going to need work done on the rockwork as well. And yet we're seeing a less than 3 month refurb for it where BTM had about 5. Facepalm.
 

FrankLapidus

Well-Known Member
For starters, the queue to Buzzlightyear is bad. Someone designed the queue on what looks like laminate floor instead of painting concrete, and the green floor looks very, very worn out. Some of the ride vehicles are brand new, some look dirty. Does it bother me when Iam riding, not in the least.

Never noticed this to be honest. We only did the ride twice this year and both times were walk-ons so I didn't really get a chance to look at the queue properly but the ride isn't one of my favourites; I've never been that big of a fan but I've done it enough times now I sort of go into auto-pilot on it and don't pay that much attention. Agree about the Yeti which is a shame because if everything on Everest were working to full capability, the attraction would be one of the best. The ride itself is still great but the broken effects let the whole package down.

Splash Mountain is an even more complex ride full of more things to go wrong (and they have gone wrong). Most of the animatronics aren't moving as they should be, the mountain needs a thorough and complete repaint from top to bottom, and most of the water effects are switched off in the Laughing Place. And to top that off, tarps have now been placed over the load area to apparently "protect" people from rockwork falling on guests, so it's clear it's going to need work done on the rockwork as well. And yet we're seeing a less than 3 month refurb for it where BTM had about 5. Facepalm.

The ride is just a bit of a mess in several respects. I saw a thread here saying that it's down at the moment and been drained, is that still the case? I found it more frustrating this year that one time we rode it, the riverboat scene was fully operational, the next time we rode it half the figures weren't working. The same happened with other scenes like the Brer Fox figure holding the beehive; one day it's moving, another it's stationary. There were a couple of other scenes where we noticed similar problems. The ride seems like it requires significant downtime to fix the list of issues that people have noticed on there but that doesn't look to be in the offing; I can understand Disney not wanting one of the more popular attractions at WDW's flagship park to be down for a long stretch of time but it's getting to a point now where something really should be done.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
If you don't believe that WDW's parks and attractions have slipping/mediocre show quality...

JUST. VISIST. DISNEYLAND.

And all will be confirmed.

Agreed, but on my last trip to DL both HM and Splash were down on the same day. We were only there for a day and did DCA in the evening so they may have been back later that day or the next day. Even the best of parks have ride outages. It's just part of the business, but I admit it's highly disappointing if it happens on your trip.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Here's that list from another thread. It lacks detail of individual issues but gives an idea.

Because the JC dock was replaced since it was actually physically falling apart and was beyond life expired?
Because PotC STILL has serious audio issues?
Because Splash Mountain has more problems than I have time to list?
Because the recent BTM refurb now has less show effects than ever?
Becasue the Space Mountain refurb was destroyed by management and the attraction is getting worse?
Because the Peoplemover has minimal maintainence?
Because the CoP still thinks it is 1994?
Because Spectromagic is coming back with no enhancements?
Because Wishes had to cut pyro or cut show?
Because CADCT is using floats that are over a decade old? 25 years old for the finale float?
Because Spaceship Earth wasn't finished?
Because over half of Innoventions is empty?
Because Energy is outdated and beginnig to crumble SQ wise?
Because Wonders is relegated from an $80million guest pavilion to a corporate exhibition space?
Because Imagination is a cheap, sad shadow of its former self?
Because one of The Lands 3 attractions is stuck in 1995 and they are happy with it?
Because Seas with Nemo was produced on a shoestring budget and has lost the plot literally?
Because ROE has no plans to be upgraded after 13 years?
Because having a packed, noisy half park originally designed for fine dining and culture is a zoo of drunks each night at the moment?
Because Maelstrom needs updating?
Becuase The Spirit of Norway needs updating so they just leave the exit doors open and have guests trying to watch be disturbed? Or close the show and attempt to up park capacity when it can't cope?
Because Impressions de France needs only a quarter of its scenes reshot but they won't pay for it?
Because DHS has an identity crisis?
Because the DHS tour has hardly anything to actually show anymore?
Because DHS has umpteen empty spaces?
Because Fantasmic! Orlando is a joke compared to its refurb-laden original cousin?
Because DHS still has the worst possible place for a store blocking the view and theme of one of WDIs crowning achievements?
Because they've given up on fixing TOTs audio issues?
Because the parade in DHS is a joke compared to its namesake and managements answer to it being too short and boring was to slow its speed down to last longer?
Because DAK has an expansion crisis? Again?
Because Everest is a coaster in a building. All ride show is now missing.
Because Dinosaur has more effects broken than working?
Because DTD and PI are still up in the air, years after the proposed super plan was scrapped?
 
Here's that list from another thread. It lacks detail of individual issues but gives an idea.

Because the JC dock was replaced since it was actually physically falling apart and was beyond life expired?
Because PotC STILL has serious audio issues?
Because Splash Mountain has more problems than I have time to list?
Because the recent BTM refurb now has less show effects than ever?
Becasue the Space Mountain refurb was destroyed by management and the attraction is getting worse?
Because the Peoplemover has minimal maintainence?
Because the CoP still thinks it is 1994?
Because Spectromagic is coming back with no enhancements?
Because Wishes had to cut pyro or cut show?
Because CADCT is using floats that are over a decade old? 25 years old for the finale float?
Because Spaceship Earth wasn't finished?
Because over half of Innoventions is empty?
Because Energy is outdated and beginnig to crumble SQ wise?
Because Wonders is relegated from an $80million guest pavilion to a corporate exhibition space?
Because Imagination is a cheap, sad shadow of its former self?
Because one of The Lands 3 attractions is stuck in 1995 and they are happy with it?
Because Seas with Nemo was produced on a shoestring budget and has lost the plot literally?
Because ROE has no plans to be upgraded after 13 years?
Because having a packed, noisy half park originally designed for fine dining and culture is a zoo of drunks each night at the moment?
Because Maelstrom needs updating?
Becuase The Spirit of Norway needs updating so they just leave the exit doors open and have guests trying to watch be disturbed? Or close the show and attempt to up park capacity when it can't cope?
Because Impressions de France needs only a quarter of its scenes reshot but they won't pay for it?
Because DHS has an identity crisis?
Because the DHS tour has hardly anything to actually show anymore?
Because DHS has umpteen empty spaces?
Because Fantasmic! Orlando is a joke compared to its refurb-laden original cousin?
Because DHS still has the worst possible place for a store blocking the view and theme of one of WDIs crowning achievements?
Because they've given up on fixing TOTs audio issues?
Because the parade in DHS is a joke compared to its namesake and managements answer to it being too short and boring was to slow its speed down to last longer?
Because DAK has an expansion crisis? Again?
Because Everest is a coaster in a building. All ride show is now missing.
Because Dinosaur has more effects broken than working?
Because DTD and PI are still up in the air, years after the proposed super plan was scrapped?

Couldn't this list be considered just a personal opinion? I think so.
 

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