News Walt Disney World to eliminate self-service paper straws and plastic lids

[TrainsOfDisney]

I think the main takeaway here is…. Unless you are physically unable to hold a cup, you don’t particularly need a straw to drink.

that’s the takeaway? That guests don’t need a straw so they should just bring their own?

 

[LittleBuford]

that’s the takeaway? That guests don’t need a straw so they should just bring their own?

I think a more workable solution would be for Disney to provide cups that are stable enough to function without lids and for people who don’t need straws (which most of us don’t) to grow accustomed to drinking without them.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I think a more workable solution would be for Disney to provide cups that are stable enough to function without lids and for people who don’t need straws (which most of us don’t) to grow accustomed to drinking without them.

Why? Why is the solution not - continue to provide guests with lids, straws, napkins, etc.

Napkins are so hard to find often.

 

[LittleBuford]

Why? Why is the solution not - continue to provide guests with lids, straws, napkins, etc.

Napkins are so hard to find often.

Because handing them out when they’re not needed or wanted creates unnecessary waste.

Because the shift away from such waste is going to happen everywhere sooner or later regardless of how people feel about it.

(This does not apply to napkins, which should indeed be easy to find and, in my experience, are.)

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Because handing them out when they’re not needed or wanted creates unnecessary waste.

Ok…. So make every CM ask “would you like lids and straws?” - cuts down on “unnecessary waste” and also provides the service. Win win!

 

[Tony the Tigger]

It’s like people don’t understand this is the way things are going.

Future generations won’t know any different, and will agree with the solution.

The perceived inconvenience of folks resistant to change is not high on the priority list.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It’s like people don’t understand this is the way things are going.

Future generations won’t know any different, and will agree with the solution.

The perceived inconvenience of folks resistant to change is not high on the priority list.

Change for what? The environment? You know Disney fireworks shows have got to be terrible for the environment so should we get rid of those?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Change for what? The environment? You know Disney fireworks shows have got to be terrible for the environment so should we get rid of those?

(Yawn.)

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

(Yawn.)

ahhh so my question is a “yawn” so doesn’t deserve a reply? Gotcha.

I don’t even use straws! But I do think they should be available. I also like to have a lid for several reasons when at a Disney park.

If it’s for the environment Disney has lots of waste to eliminate. But we all know this is a $$$ thing.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Who here has said that they dislike or won’t use plastic?

Yes, I derailed the thread a bit. Sorry about that.

 

[maemae74]

Not sure if this was mentioned but.................

Paper straws contain toxic ‘forever chemicals’ — could be worse than plastic: study

Is it a strawman argument? A new study found that the so-called “green” utensils are toxic and therefore potentially worse for the environment than their much-vilified plastic counterpa…

nypost.com

 

[LittleBuford]

Not sure if this was mentioned but.................

Paper straws contain toxic ‘forever chemicals’ — could be worse than plastic: study

Is it a strawman argument? A new study found that the so-called “green” utensils are toxic and therefore potentially worse for the environment than their much-vilified plastic counterpa…

nypost.com

It was:

Excellent timing!

Paper straws found to contain long-lasting and potentially toxic chemicals - study

PFAS were found in a majority of the paper and bamboo straws analysed. They have been widely used since the shunning of plastic straws in the UK and Europe in recent years.

news.sky.com

Here’s a link to the study itself:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19440049.2023.2240908

 

[Basil of Baker Street]

(Yawn.)

Fireworks are probably worse for the environment than straws.

The Environmental Impact of Fireworks | Earth.Org

Fireworks are used to please crowds, celebrate big holidays, and end festivals with a bang – literally. But at what environmental cost?

earth.org

 

[John park hopper]

Packing so many people into a small space must be bad for the environment ---better close WDW (sarcasm).
Earth will self correct in time mass extinctions have happened in the past and will happen again. Live for today for tomorrow we all may die.

 

[Tha Realest]

Fireworks are probably worse for the environment than straws.

The Environmental Impact of Fireworks | Earth.Org

Fireworks are used to please crowds, celebrate big holidays, and end festivals with a bang – literally. But at what environmental cost?

earth.org

And let’s not forget the environmental costs from cooling all those countless show buildings, stores, restaurants, and resorts

 

[LittleBuford]

Fireworks are probably worse for the environment than straws.

The Environmental Impact of Fireworks | Earth.Org

Fireworks are used to please crowds, celebrate big holidays, and end festivals with a bang – literally. But at what environmental cost?

earth.org

The very existence of WDW is bad for the environment. Pretty much all forms of human entertainment produce lots of waste that we could arguably forego (though no-one here is arguing that we should). But that shouldn’t stop us from recognising those adaptations we might reasonably make without significant detriment to our experience of the things we enjoy.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Again, just pathetic virtue signaling that does nothing except annoy their guests.

Exactly. And is seen as a budget cut.

Cutting costs and then telling me I’m a bad person for wanting to use a straw cause it’s wasteful is the most infuriating thing ever.

 

[Basil of Baker Street]

The very existence of WDW is bad for the environment. Pretty much all forms of human entertainment produce lots of waste that we could arguably forego (though no-one here is arguing that we should). But that shouldn’t stop us from recognising those adaptations we might reasonably make without significant detriment to our experience of the things we enjoy.

So you agree. Laser and projection shows in lieu of toxic fireworks.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

The very existence of WDW is bad for the environment. Pretty much all forms of human entertainment produce lots of waste that we could arguably forego (though no-one here is arguing that we should). But that shouldn’t stop us from recognising those adaptations we might reasonably make without significant detriment to our experience of the things we enjoy.

People who cite other things like fireworks likely don't care about the environment, they're just using those things in an attempt to dismiss any arguments against something they don't want to give up, like straws.

Saying that fireworks are bad for the environment therefore we should have plastic straws, plastic bags, and never recycle, etc. is silly.

There's always going to be waste and negative environmental impacts. We should try and reduce those things where we can but address each on an individual case.

Fireworks have benefit in that they are entertaining. Plastic straws provide minor benefit, but I can easily make do without them. I just don't feel I need them in my life the way I might still want fireworks in my theme parks.

 

[LittleBuford]

People who cite other things like fireworks likely don't care about the environment, they're just using those things in an attempt to dismiss any arguments against something they don't want to give up, like straws.

Saying that fireworks are bad for the environment therefore we should have plastic straws, plastic bags, and never recycle, etc. is silly.

There's always going to be waste and negative environmental impacts. We should try and reduce those things where we can but address each on an individual case.

Fireworks have benefit in that they are entertaining. Plastic straws provide minor benefit, but I can easily make do without them. I just don't feel I need them in my life the way I might still want fireworks in my theme parks.

Thank you for saying it much better than I could.