News Walt Disney World to eliminate self-service paper straws and plastic lids

Prince-1

Well-Known Member
What’s the carbon footprint on all those guests who travel via airplane and car from states and countries afar?

The reasoning why they are doing is is irrelevant. Do they care about their carbon footprint...maybe a little. Are they doing this to save money....absolutely. But it takes no effort at all to ask the person for a straw who is literally handing you your drink. I think that people are getting so conditioned to complain about everything Disney does these days that a non-starter like this is getting traction.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Oh I get it but we can't light the torches and storm the castle on everything they do especially on this. Again, if you want a straw you can have a straw. Now if they totally get rid of them completely I will lead the protest.
The reasoning why they are doing is is irrelevant. Do they care about their carbon footprint...maybe a little. Are they doing this to save money....absolutely. But it takes no effort at all to ask the person for a straw who is literally handing you your drink. I think that people are getting so conditioned to complain about everything Disney does these days that a non-starter like this is getting traction.
Maybe you are okay with bottom of the barrel hospitality and customer service from Disney. I expect better and it seems some others do as well.
 

GhostHost1000

Premium Member
Oh I get it but we can't light the torches and storm the castle on everything they do especially on this. Again, if you want a straw you can have a straw. Now if they totally get rid of them completely I will lead the protest.
We should have already protested when they switched to all paper straws lol

Either way, drip drip drip…someone needs to stop the leak of bad decisions/directions
 

orky8

Well-Known Member
Maybe you are okay with bottom of the barrel hospitality and customer service from Disney. I expect better and it seems some others do as well.
Exactly! This is a place that should give you cups with lids already on and straws simultaneously because their clientele is exactly the kind that could use such assistance. Good client service doesn't wait for you to ask for something so trivial hoping that you won't to save a nickel. Magic is anticipating your client's needs and delivering above and beyond those needs. I fully recognize that Disney is long gone, at least until current leadership is gone...
 
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Marionnette

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The reasoning why they are doing is is irrelevant. Do they care about their carbon footprint...maybe a little. Are they doing this to save money....absolutely. But it takes no effort at all to ask the person for a straw who is literally handing you your drink. I think that people are getting so conditioned to complain about everything Disney does these days that a non-starter like this is getting traction.
It takes no effort for the person who is handing you the drink to ask if you need a straw. See the difference? By asking, it let's the guest know that they're available. By hiding them behind the counter and not offering, the guest will quite possibly assume that there are none to be had.
 

JMcMahonEsq

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Imagine a business where..

Being recognized you are in need and an employee offering to help? NO - you must ask
Cleaning up a spill? NO - you must ask
Being told where your hotel room is? NO - you are just shooed away unless you ask
Your waiter doesn't fill drinks or take plates away... unless you flag them down and ask

No customer service isn't just 'throwing things at everyone' - but good customer service is proactive, recognizes customer needs, and even tries to recognize customer needs and address it before the guest is even burdened.

So yes - good customer service is supposed to be AHEAD of the customer.. and not require the customer initiate a request for everything. These are basic hospitality concepts. Simply saying "put up a sign and make it on-demand" is a fundamental challenge to customer service principles. And you assess how frequent the need is, how common, who may need it, and how to HELP the customer and improve their experience. Not just "ahh.. they can ask"



False equivalency - your example is literally asking to change your --product-- to --INDIVIDUAL tastes--. A more equivalent example would be going to the drive through for your burger... and them not giving you any napkins, unless you ask for them.

Or giving your a drink in a moving car without a lid.. unless you ask for it. Or handing you 4 drinks without a carrier.. without asking you. Or giving you children sized drinks without lids.. even knowing that kids are messy.

It's freaking sad that we are basically having to outline how McDonalds... a company that charges 1/2 to to 1/3 of the price of Disney... has no reputation of 'premium customer service'... is better at addressing obvious customer needs without requiring every customer to explicitly ask for help.



It does cost in customer service. It's been outlined multiple times. The challenges with interacting with employees have been highlighted. The examples of when something is OPTIONAL vs required how they can readily operate without any stock... effectively eliminating the service.

If they are concerned about reduce trash - then don't use disposable cups.
Wanting a straw, or a napkin, isn't being in need of help. It's not cleaning up a spill (which is a health and safety issue) and its not cleaning up plates from a sit down table, which is a requirement of the job and has nothing to do with the individual person eating. You can't use the table again without it being cleaned up.

Straws, napikns, condiments, ect., aren't required for every person at every order. Some people don't use straws, some carry their own. Some don't need or want ketchup or salt or insert disposable condiment here. Just like some people want fries with a meal and some don't, some people want ice in their drink, some don't. Its a personal choice and its wasteful to just give them out as a standard without them being needed or desired.

The idea/concept of just wasting resources in the name of customer service is over. The idea of giving out 100 straws to 100 people without asking, when 20 people don't want them and 20 of them will go to waste, on the off chance that 1 or 2 people will forget they need them, and then somehow not have the ability to walk back up to get them is simply environmentally and fiscally irresponsible. Luxury doesn't have to be wasteful, nor does it have to be non-targeted.

As to your last point, you sound like my 7year old that can only understand extremes. Could you go with completely non-disposable cups? From a industry standpoint...maybe. Disney's it's probably not viable, and I would wonder what the waste in the additional water resources would be to wash all the non-disposable cups would be. But that's not the point. A simple transition to having straws and other disposable items on site, and giving them out to anyone who wants them, continues the same provision of service that they have always had, AND reduces waste. Its a complete environmental win, and only effects people who are too lazy to ask.
 

John park hopper

Well-Known Member
The straw controversy began when a nine year old boy made an estimate that 500 million straws were used per day in the US ( this figure was just that a guess) and the media ran with it. The fact is:
that amount of straws only accounted for 0.025 percent of the 8 million tons of plastic found in the ocean yearly (as of 2018).
Disney jumped on the anti straw wagon --look see we care about the environment but just go in any WDW gift shop and just about everything is plastic (made in China)
Personally I don't use straws
 

JMcMahonEsq

Well-Known Member
It takes no effort for the person who is handing you the drink to ask if you need a straw. See the difference? By asking, it let's the guest know that they're available. By hiding them behind the counter and not offering, the guest will quite possibly assume that there are none to be had.
NO. Asking if people want something vs providing if asked has been statistically shown to create more waste. You have percentage of people who will always take something if offered, even if they don't want it or "just in case." There is a reason servers were taught in the past to ask if you want to add X to your meal, or you can also get y. The offer creates the demand.

Second, everything that you are ordering is for the most part behind the counter. They don't keep all the cups and the ice out in front. No server asks each customer if they want every single option available to them with every purchase they make.

The whole point, other than saving money, from an environmental perspective is to reduce the consumption of these disposable products. The end goal IS to have less of them used, and less people using them.
 

GhostHost1000

Premium Member
Just thought I’d share this little nugget of info for those who are pro-paper straws

Paper straws require resources like trees and water for production, and their manufacturing process can produce greenhouse gas emissions. Additionally, if the paper straws are not disposed of properly, such as being recycled or composted, they can still contribute to environmental issues.
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
From some CMs, it seems like there was a brief discussion on switching to “coffee lids” for all cups, since those use roughly the same amount of plastic as a straw lid, but those are too expensive to justify. Interestingly, you used to be able to ask for a “coffee lid” and they’d give you one. Now they can no longer give you one without the purchase of a coffee because they are “too expensive”.
I KNEW it was ALL about MONEY and it had nothing to do with saving the Earth!
 

Monkee Girl

Well-Known Member
Lids have been very hard to come by in the parks for years. Straws, no. But lids, for sure.
yes. people keep saying 'ask for a lid' and the last trip we went to, at least 3 different places 'didn't have any' when we asked for them. It was very annoying and half the time we had to throw the drinks out because we couldn't take them somewhere without a lid on them. The whole situation is annoying.
 

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