News Walt Disney World to eliminate self-service paper straws and plastic lids

Marionnette

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Funny how a small change triggers people. Want a straw, ask for a straw. It‘s really as simple as that.
It's not one small change that bothers people. It's the "death by a thousand cuts" that this represents. Alone, asking for a straw or lid is no big deal but when it becomes the newest in a long list of disappearing services then people are going to complain. Disney is slowly boiling the frog, hoping that the frog never notices.
 

GladToBeHear

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It's not one small change that bothers people. It's the "death by a thousand cuts" that this represents. Alone, asking for a straw or lid is no big deal but when it becomes the newest in a long list of disappearing services then people are going to complain. Disney is slowly boiling the frog, hoping that the frog never notices.
This. It's just another of a growing list of small inconveniences. From a vacation resort that used to set the bar for customer service (at least for family vacations) that continues to raise prices and cut value.
 

Prince-1

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It's not one small change that bothers people. It's the "death by a thousand cuts" that this represents. Alone, asking for a straw or lid is no big deal but when it becomes the newest in a long list of disappearing services then people are going to complain. Disney is slowly boiling the frog, hoping that the frog never notices.

This isn't a cut but a policy change. And while I understand your point, this specific issue needs to be looked at the context of what actually what happened which is people will need to ask for straws/lids instead of having them readily available. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

Marionnette

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This isn't a cut but a policy change. And while I understand your point, this specific issue needs to be looked at the context of what actually what happened which is people will need to ask for straws/lids instead of having them readily available. Nothing more, nothing less.
I disagree. If they simply put a lid on their cups and provided a straw at the point of service, I would consider it a policy change. By putting the onus on the customer to request those consumables (how many guests will even know that they are available by request?), Disney is making a cut in service.
 

John park hopper

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Just remember you are the magic--- Disney has transferred providing the magic to you so don't blame us if you don't get a straw and a lid. Think about it Disney comes out with a plastic popcorn bucket and sells god knows how many--- I wonder how many lids and straws can be made from one bucket. Guess if it's plastic making them money they aren't very concerned about plastic waste.
 

lazyboy97o

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This isn't a cut but a policy change. And while I understand your point, this specific issue needs to be looked at the context of what actually what happened which is people will need to ask for straws/lids instead of having them readily available. Nothing more, nothing less.
Again, lids have been eliminated from some locations. That's not just a policy change, it's a cut.
Asking for a straw while you are being handed your drink is a "small inconvenience"?? Do tell.
Yes, because it is not a standard practice. People end up backtracking and trying to ask in the middle of a line. The entire purpose of the change is to create friction and reduce use.
 

tissandtully

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They make more money by not doing so...
I don't buy that Universal is leaving money on the table by doing it. The soda basically costs nothing. How many people are buying multiple drinks a day? You do it one flat price and you've got profit where there was none before because people won't use it as much as they thought or you got people who weren't going to buy drinks at all now buying refillable mugs.
 

MagicHappens1971

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I don't buy that Universal is leaving money on the table by doing it. The soda basically costs nothing. How many people are buying multiple drinks a day? You do it one flat price and you've got profit where there was none before because people won't use it as much as they thought or you got people who weren't going to buy drinks at all now buying refillable mugs.
I'm not saying they would "loose" money on the product, being the soda syrup.

Scenario:
Guest A: Buys 1 refillable mug for $18/day (I think the cheapest it gets is $13/day) and continues to refill it all day for all the guests in their party
Guest B: Buys 2 Drinks for their party of 4, at $5/each, at lunch and dinner. That's $20... and we're not even talking about passing a Popcorn Cart and buying a bottle of Coke to compliment their salty popcorn.

The reality is that no matter how you slice it or dice it, "they" make more money by NOT offering the mug.
 

DisneyFanatic12

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You know if Disney were smart they would sell refillable mugs like other parks do, not sure why they have never done this.
They have done it, but a LONG time ago. Once upon a time they had refillable cups in the park. I just hope if they ever revert to such a thing again that they keep the two systems separate. I don’t want to pay $10 a day instead of $10 a week just to be able to refill my resort mug!
 

Disstevefan1

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Its a good question why WDW does not have refillable mugs like their resorts. We loved the Universal ones they had when they first opened and used the same ones for many many years.

Since they changed to RFID its not as good, but still good.
 

JMcMahonEsq

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Again, lids have been eliminated from some locations. That's not just a policy change, it's a cut.

Yes, because it is not a standard practice. People end up backtracking and trying to ask in the middle of a line. The entire purpose of the change is to create friction and reduce use.
I don't know about your location but in NJ/NYC area, that is a standard practice. Straws are not provided unless the customer requests them. That pretty much seems like the standard practice that we are moving towards. Reducing usesage and waste by not giving them out unless requested.

While slightly different NY is moving even further with this banning providing disposable silverware or single serve condiments with take out orders unless specifically requested.

The whole point is to be more environmentally friendly by reducing use/waste. There have been studies after studies that help show that recycling efforts don't do anywhere near as much to benefit the environment as opposed to reducing actual consumption. So if we cut down on plastic, and cut down on the use of disposable straws/items as a whole, and the only "downside" is that someone when buying a drink has to ask "Can I have a straw?" Its a win.
 

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