News Walt Disney World to eliminate self-service paper straws and plastic lids

flynnibus

flynnibus

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jaklgreen said:
LOL Clearly you have not had to put your kids through college yet if you think that you will have more money when they are older. You are in for a bit of a shock. Carry your cup if you want, as you said, plenty do. Put plenty more do not want to have to deal with carrying around a nasty cup all day. Who in their right mind would want to use the same cup all day, in the heat, when you can not properly wash it in between uses? Using it for water is one thing, but putting anything with sugar in the cups is going to turn it nasty.
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He’s single tracking on paid refill programs vs the original point of ‘who provides the cup’. His story would change if he no longer had a discount refill.

If the real point is reducing waste… we can trade landfill usage for energy usage… instead of just making the experience worse and worse for guests.

This move is akin to taking away plastic forks and just telling guests they can use their hands instead… or bring your own utensils.

It doesn’t have to be this way
 
jaklgreen

jaklgreen

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celluloid said:
I have plenty of money now, I just enjoy saving it. My kids so far have gotten scholarships. Which is a nice bonus.

Plenty of people like the souvenir cups. This is already done at the hotels at Disney. You are painting a thing that does not exist.

The last logic is just funny. It is no different than carrying around a bottled sugar filled drink, which Disney readily sells. Or the popcorn bucket novelty of the month filled with salty buttery popcorn. Two hours and three soft drinks for a family or couple already sells most soda drinkers and most theme park people's standaards at a current going rate of about 15 dollars per cup and ten dollars for a day when they bring it back. Three drinks in it downed in a couple hours is not that nasty. Locals and tourists love it. People wash them at home or at their hotel the same way they would anything else. It is not a crazy thing.

The people who do not care for it, have their drinks in paper cups. Parks who offer both win. Just like popcorn buckets and popcorn from cardboard. It is not a either or situation.


All this is funny, as I don't drink soda regularly enough to justify it often anymore, maybe the prices help that.

At Tokyo Disney it was all 2 dollars a bottle from a vending machine and at Universal, I have gotten a few HHN cups over the years, where thousands of people nightly without any kids, carry them (and the alcoholic ones) around.
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Yes, it is different than carrying around a one time use bottle. Nobody is refilling their coke bottle with more soda. I think that you are trying so hard to justify your stance that you have lost a bit of rationality here.
 
Tony the Tigger

Tony the Tigger

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If this is such a big deal: Get. Smaller. Cups.

Then you don’t have to drag one around. Drink one serving, smaller cup, lower price-point. 6 ounces, $1. Can’t finish 6 ounces? Chuck it. Keep walking. Need a bigger serving? Buy a bottle.

It’s not like it’s something important like alcohol. 😆
 
Tony the Tigger

Tony the Tigger

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One of the Brits should start an afternoon tea thread in the chit-chat section.

I have no problem with Lipton, grew up on it. Quickly learned to go with decaffeinated.

Best I ever had was a vanilla tea from Victoria & Albert’s (6 years ago and I can’t forget it!) A CM brought me the box and I took a pic of the UPC code - but never found it anywhere.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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Tony the Tigger said:
No, this move is akin to putting forks just out of reach so a CM hands you one, rather than people carelessly drop one, take 3, etc.

That is all.
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Wait… you mean like when used to put lids and straws in every order? :) and they filled drink orders for you???

This isn’t for hygiene or frivolous waste - it’s to discourage use so they can eliminate their use.

There are better ways to get efficiency and hygiene. Recognize it for what it is.
 
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celluloid

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Marionnette said:
Spoken like someone who has yet to wake up one day and realize that college tuition payments are just a few years away. By the time that your youngest is out of the stroller at Disney (what is the age threshold now? 9? 10?), your oldest will probably be closing in on their high school years. Then after the baby's college costs are in the review mirror, it's time to get serious about retirement.

Do you know when someone stops stressing about $5 sodas? I'm 63, I'll let you know when I reach that point.
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Spoken like someone who does not know me, my profession or the fact that I just posted about my oldest getting scholarships right after the post you quoted of me.

I am also a professor so there is a nice back up them to get cheap credits through where I teach too. I don't stress over my children in college because they are smart and luckily for me have chosen paths where I don't fret that.

Now besides the odd attack sounding sage experience tone...
I never stress about five dollar sodas, because I don't drink soda much anymore, and never at that individual price point. It is much different for us to get Soda in our Universal Freestyle cup at HHN for 10 bucks all night between us. The novelty of that has even been not as strong for me but a much better value than individually. Not to mention more efficient lines if you know where to look and sort of a souvenir keepsake.


But clearly, plenty of people don't mind five dollar sodas or cave in because that is what Disney sells them at.
 
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donaldtoo

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Dranth said:
Not a fan of the paper straws but it isn’t that straight forward. Those 3 paper straws will fully decompose in a few months and no longer be taking up any space while the plastic straw will sit in a landfill for well over a hundred years.
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But, you’re killing waaayyyyy more trees with paper straws…oh, the treemanity…!!!!! :eek:o_O:cry:;)
There’s always a trade-off, isn’t there…?!
Way back in the day, friends of ours were getting ready to start a family. Initially, they were very intent on using cloth diapers instead of disposable, because of all the disposable diapers going into landfills. But, after doing some research, they realized that with the cloth diapers they’d be using a lot more power, water, and putting too much waste into the system (their words).
They opted for disposable diapers.
Again, there’s always a trade-off.
Still amazing to me how so many folks knee-jerk without taking a pause to think and research before they “REACT”.
 
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Marionnette

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celluloid said:
Spoken like someone who does not know me, my profession or the fact that I just posted about my oldest getting scholarships right after the post you quoted of me.

I am also a professor so there is a nice back up them to get cheap credits through where I teach too. I don't stress over my children in college because they are smart and luckily for me have chosen paths where I don't fret that.

Now besides the odd attack sounding sage experience tone...
I never stress about five dollar sodas, because I don't drink soda much anymore, and never at that individual price point. It is much different for us to get Soda in our Universal Freestyle cup at HHN for 10 bucks all night between us. The novelty of that has even been not as strong for me but a much better value than individually. Not to mention more efficient lines if you know where to look and sort of a souvenir keepsake.


But clearly, plenty of people don't mind five dollar sodas or cave in because that is what Disney sells them at.
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*never mind Not worth it.
 
GhostHost1000

GhostHost1000

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flynnibus said:
Old disney….

Energy efficiency is important… so lets design buildings with automatic water shutoffs and motion controlled light fixtures

current disney…. Let’s see how good people can walk in the dark…
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Disney with everything now “let’s see how much we can get away with while guests continue coming and spending tons of money”
 
jaklgreen

jaklgreen

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celluloid said:
Spoken like someone who does not know me, my profession or the fact that I just posted about my oldest getting scholarships right after the post you quoted of me.

I am also a professor so there is a nice back up them to get cheap credits through where I teach too. I don't stress over my children in college because they are smart and luckily for me have chosen paths where I don't fret that.

Now besides the odd attack sounding sage experience tone...
I never stress about five dollar sodas, because I don't drink soda much anymore, and never at that individual price point. It is much different for us to get Soda in our Universal Freestyle cup at HHN for 10 bucks all night between us. The novelty of that has even been not as strong for me but a much better value than individually. Not to mention more efficient lines if you know where to look and sort of a souvenir keepsake.


But clearly, plenty of people don't mind five dollar sodas or cave in because that is what Disney sells them at.
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How did your kids get a scholarship to college when they are still riding in strollers? That part had my confused.
 

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